Re: the value of old test and repair equipment

2016-08-12 Thread Joseph Zatarski
>> Something I forgot to note was that this instrument (the 4261A) was >> actually manufactured for HP by Yokogawa, I'm not too sure where the >> HP part ends and the Yokogawa begins, maybe it was designed by HP and >> built by Yokogawa, or maybe the whole thing was a contracted design >> for HP by

Re: the value of old test and repair equipment

2016-08-12 Thread Fred Cisin
Something I forgot to note was that this instrument (the 4261A) was actually manufactured for HP by Yokogawa, I'm not too sure where the HP part ends and the Yokogawa begins, maybe it was designed by HP and built by Yokogawa, or maybe the whole thing was a contracted design for HP by Yokogawa. Y

Re: the value of old test and repair equipment

2016-08-12 Thread Joseph Zatarski
>The y have used Fairchild for their source. > >If so, that explains the high rate of failure. > >Years ago when at Intel, we disqualified Fairchild > >as a source for parts because of the poor testing > >and high failure rates. > >Dwight I seem to remember the 7474 that failed was actually a TI p

Re: the value of old test and repair equipment

2016-08-11 Thread dwight
curiousma...@gmail.com Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2016 12:12:14 AM To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: Re: the value of old test and repair equipment For some reason the 7474's have a higher failure rate than other TTL IC's in HP equipment. I don't know if it&#x

Re: the value of old test and repair equipment

2016-08-11 Thread curiousmarc3
For some reason the 7474's have a higher failure rate than other TTL IC's in HP equipment. I don't know if it's true in general for 1970's TTL. Signetics MSI chips (counters and stuff) seem to be prone to failure too. Marc > > All this talk of older test equipment reminds me of the HP 4261A L

Re: the value of old test and repair equipment

2016-08-10 Thread Eric Smith
On Tue, Aug 9, 2016 at 10:31 PM, tony duell wrote: > The problem is that one of the 300 baud Bell tones is effectively the > same as (I think) the long-distance clearing signal. Something like that > anyway. If you connect your 300 baud US modem over here it will > effectively cause the exchange t

RE: the value of old test and repair equipment

2016-08-09 Thread tony duell
> > Since a Bell modem would cause a lot of problems on an old > > UK phone line, > > Why is that? Are the electrical characteristics of the phone line > actually that different from US lines? Electrically the lines are almost identical (there are differences in things like ringing voltage and f

Re: the value of old test and repair equipment

2016-08-09 Thread Eric Smith
On Sat, Aug 6, 2016 at 11:56 PM, tony duell wrote: > Since a Bell modem would cause a lot of problems on an old > UK phone line, Why is that? Are the electrical characteristics of the phone line actually that different from US lines? I worked for a modem company for a few years, though I mostly

Re: the value of old test and repair equipment

2016-08-09 Thread Joseph Zatarski
>I really like my old test gear and yes, it just seems right to be restoring >vintage computers with vintage instruments. HP scopes, logic analyzers, >DVMs; function generator; Tek scope, frequency counter; as well as just >'sundry'. But I did break down and buy a DDS frequency generator to work

Re: the value of old test and repair equipment

2016-08-07 Thread drlegendre .
glue a broken > > switch wafer. I tried some super glue but it didn't > > hold. I'm going to try JB weld next. > > Dwight > > > > From: cctalk on behalf of drlegendre . < > drlegen...@gmail.com> > Sent: Friday, Aug

Re: the value of old test and repair equipment

2016-08-07 Thread dwight
opic Posts Subject: Re: the value of old test and repair equipment "I've been restoring a HeathKit capacitor checker." Which one, the IT-28? Those are really handy for finding leakage in high-voltage caps, as they have a crazy-high (like 600V ?) power supply. Unlike modern SS uni

RE: the value of old test and repair equipment

2016-08-07 Thread tony duell
> Though I have some background in Telcom, I'd never heard of the HP 3370(B) > so had to check it out. Here are a couple of take-away quotes from a > thread at: http://www.vintage-radio.net/forum/showthread.php?p=866814 Did you also notice that one of the contributors to that thread goes by the

Re: the value of old test and repair equipment

2016-08-06 Thread drlegendre .
Though I have some background in Telcom, I'd never heard of the HP 3370(B) so had to check it out. Here are a couple of take-away quotes from a thread at: http://www.vintage-radio.net/forum/showthread.php?p=866814 "The A suffix boxes were designed to test phone lines for modems for CCIT standards

RE: the value of old test and repair equipment

2016-08-06 Thread tony duell
I also collect old/classic test gear. Some I use (my main 'scope is a Tekky 555, I think that's old enough to be a classic :-)). Some I just collect because it's a beautiful piece of electronics. My latest find was an HP3770B telephone line analyser -- an instrument to measure the freqeuncy resp

Re: the value of old test and repair equipment

2016-08-05 Thread drlegendre .
; isk...@uw.edu> > Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2016 3:46:13 PM > To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts > Subject: Re: the value of old test and repair equipment > > I really like my old test gear and yes, it just seems right to be restoring > vintage computers with vintage i

Re: the value of old test and repair equipment

2016-08-05 Thread dwight
the two layer impact paper. Dwight From: cctalk on behalf of Ian S. King Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2016 3:46:13 PM To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: Re: the value of old test and repair equipment I really like my old test gear and yes, it

Re: the value of old test and repair equipment

2016-07-31 Thread Ian S. King
I really like my old test gear and yes, it just seems right to be restoring vintage computers with vintage instruments. HP scopes, logic analyzers, DVMs; function generator; Tek scope, frequency counter; as well as just 'sundry'. But I did break down and buy a DDS frequency generator to work on m

Re: the value of old test and repair equipment

2016-07-30 Thread drlegendre .
In fact, the value of old test gear varies tremendously.. Vacuum tube testers of certain makes & models are near the top of the food chain, with clean, working examples pulling $1500+ (USD) on a very regular basis. There's also a strong following for much 'classic' audio analysis gear (HD meters,

Re: the value of old test and repair equipment

2016-07-29 Thread curiousmarc3
Yes, quite interested, HP test equipment is a significant part of my collection. Most of what I get is untested. Would need model number and photos of course. Marc Sent from my iPad > On Jul 28, 2016, at 12:52 PM, Electronics Plus wrote: > > I had to pass up a large qty of old test equip at t

Re: the value of old test and repair equipment

2016-07-28 Thread Dale H. Cook
At 03:52 PM 7/28/2016, Electronics Plus wrote: >... does as-is old test and repair equip that won't be particularly cheap have >interest to you guys? It depends entirely on the make and model of equipment. I always have a laundry list of stuff I am looking for - one of the reasons why I bring m

Re: the value of old test and repair equipment

2016-07-28 Thread Brian Marstella
I enjoy using vintage test equipment as well, but I'm not usually willing to pay more than $5 or $10 for a piece unless I know it works. Generally, the only time I'll pay more without testing is when it's an automated piece of equipment that included some computer interface capability as part of as

RE: the value of old test and repair equipment

2016-07-28 Thread Jay West
Cindy wrote... - does as-is old test and repair equip that won't be particularly cheap have interest to you guys? - Speaking just for me personally... yes it has interest. I use period gear to work on the computers and enjoy that combination. Not as in "I'm collecting old test gear" but "

the value of old test and repair equipment

2016-07-28 Thread Electronics Plus
I had to pass up a large qty of old test equip at the recycler last time because they wanted too much for it. For instance, an old HP signal generator would have cost me $25, with no way to test it, and no guarantees that it was complete or working. So my question is, does as-is old test and repair