On Monday 04 November 2002 13:49, Frank Hage wrote:
> On 2002.11.04, Joerg Schilling wrote:
> : But DVD-* media is cheaper and I see no advantage in using DVD+ media.
>
> One advantage I find is the ability to burn directly from NFS mounted
> partitions. It's slow but it works well. I've got gobs a
> >I can flip the disc and note that media between
> >lead-in and written data remained *virgin*.
>
> This seems to be contradicting the official developer information
> for the DVD+RW drives. It includes a state diagram that states that you
> need to detect an interrupted de-ice and continue it b
> > Updated write-up is online and reads now as following:
>
> Again. Even if DVD+RW is "superior". What does it REALLY buy you?
I have the only intention to discuss and undestand technology. As it's
not a technological question I have no intention to answer it. A.
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On Sun, Nov 10, 2002 at 04:49:55PM +0100, Andy Polyakov wrote:
> > > >The page in question was updated with following two paragraphs:
>
> Updated write-up is online and reads now as following:
< Snip >
Again. Even if DVD+RW is "superior". What does it REALLY buy you?
Excluding the 0.01% of the
>From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Nov 8 15:52:46 2002
>> High frequency wobbling does not help to make the DVD recording better
>> in case of buffer underruns. You always use the pre-groove only to find
>> the course place where to resume recording. The exact position is found
>> by reading the already
> > >The page in question was updated with following two paragraphs:
Updated write-up is online and reads now as following:
What does plus in DVD+RW/+R stand for? Originally this paragraph started
as following:
The key feature of DVD+RW/+R media is high [spatial] frequency wobbled
[pre-]groo
Another 2 cents: I've experienced a high failure rate with DVD-RAM even
with the carrier. Actually, though, only with one vendor's cartridges
(Memorex double sided). I've not seen the problem with others,
including the cheaper generic cartridges.
On Fri, 2002-11-08 at 09:11, Matthias Schniederm
On Fri, Nov 08, 2002 at 03:53:16PM +0100, Andy Polyakov wrote:
>
> As already mentioned. DVD+RW supports write of randomly addressed 2KB
> blocks even to *virgin* media (well, when you write 2KB, 32KB gets
> naturally written/de-iced], and naturally rewrite in random order at
> later occasion. Ran
The only reason I'm answering is that I have reasons to believe that I
indeed failed to find up-to-date or accurate enough information about
DVD- formats. The only specification *publicly* available is 3.95GB
DVD-R ECMA specification which describes certain "Linking scheme" that
applies in "Increme
>From: Andy Polyakov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> The write speed does not matter if you use BUrnProof or packet writing.
>> Of course DVD+RW _only_ supports packet writing...
>The page in question was updated with following two paragraphs:
>What does plus stand for in DVD+RW/+R? The key feature of DV
>From: Matthias Schniedermeyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>A few month ago i even read an articel in our "Linux Magazin" about the
>"2GB Barrier" (The Topic was DVD-Recording). I felt like beeing warped
>back into the stoneage. :-)
Well, this is Linux :-(
Most OS did support large files in 1995. Linux
>From: Frank Hage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>I'm sorry. I forgot that DVD +/- geeks were having a religious war. ;-)
>Yes, you .de guys are right. Your Mileage Varies greatly from mine.
Well, I only see religious DVD wars from DVD+ lovers, but this seems to
be a result of the miss information from
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthias Schniedermeyer) quoted and then wrote:
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>On Mon, Nov 04, 2002 at 11:49:47AM -0700, Frank Hage wrote:
>> On 2002.11.04, Joerg Schilling wrote:
>> :
>> :
>> : But DVD-* media is cheaper and I see n
> I see no relation between DVD- vs. DVD+ and NFS.
>
> The write speed does not matter if you use BUrnProof or packet writing.
> Of course DVD+RW _only_ supports packet writing...
The page in question was updated with following two paragraphs:
What does plus stand for in DVD+RW/+R? The key featu
On Wed, Nov 06, 2002 at 01:22:17PM -0700, Frank Hage wrote:
> On 2002.11.06, Joerg Schilling wrote:
> :
> :
> : >From: Matthias Schniedermeyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> :
> : >> : But DVD-* media is cheaper and I see no advantage in using DVD+ media.
> : >>
> : >> Other advantages are the ability t
On 2002.11.06, Joerg Schilling wrote:
:
:
: >From: Matthias Schniedermeyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
:
: >> : But DVD-* media is cheaper and I see no advantage in using DVD+ media.
: >>
: >> Other advantages are the ability to completely fill the disks (> 4 GB
: >> iso files are a problem on 32 bit s
On Wed, Nov 06, 2002 at 02:26:21PM +0100, Joerg Schilling wrote:
>
> >From: Matthias Schniedermeyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> >> : But DVD-* media is cheaper and I see no advantage in using DVD+ media.
> >>
> >> Other advantages are the ability to completely fill the disks (> 4 GB
> >> iso files a
>From: Matthias Schniedermeyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> : But DVD-* media is cheaper and I see no advantage in using DVD+ media.
>>
>> Other advantages are the ability to completely fill the disks (> 4 GB
>> iso files are a problem on 32 bit systems) and not needing free space
>> for the disk imag
On Mon, Nov 04, 2002 at 11:49:47AM -0700, Frank Hage wrote:
> On 2002.11.04, Joerg Schilling wrote:
> :
> :
> : But DVD-* media is cheaper and I see no advantage in using DVD+ media.
>
> Other advantages are the ability to completely fill the disks (> 4 GB
> iso files are a problem on 32 bit sys
>From: Frank Hage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>: But DVD-* media is cheaper and I see no advantage in using DVD+ media.
>One advantage I find is the ability to burn directly from NFS mounted
>partitions. It's slow but it works well. I've got gobs and gobs of data
>spread across many machines, many filled
On 2002.11.04, Joerg Schilling wrote:
:
:
: But DVD-* media is cheaper and I see no advantage in using DVD+ media.
One advantage I find is the ability to burn directly from NFS mounted
partitions. It's slow but it works well. I've got gobs and gobs of data
spread across many machines, many fille
> >> >From reports I got for Cdrecord-ProDVD, cdrecord does not need an update
> >> for the Sony drive, it just works
>
> >Not when it comes to burning DVD+RW/+R media. cdrecord-ProDVD works only
> >with DVD-RW/-R media. A.
>
> But DVD-* media is cheaper and I see no advantage in using DVD+ m
>From: Andy Polyakov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >From reports I got for Cdrecord-ProDVD, cdrecord does not need an update
>> for the Sony drive, it just works
>Not when it comes to burning DVD+RW/+R media. cdrecord-ProDVD works only
>with DVD-RW/-R media. A.
But DVD-* media is cheaper and I see
> >Slightly off-topic in this list context.
>
> >http://fy.chalmers.se/~appro/linux/DVD+RW/ was updated this weekend.
> >Major news are support for SONY DRU500 unit and improved compatibility
> >control (see new "Compatibility caveat lector" paragraph on the page in
> >question).
>
> >From report
>From: Andy Polyakov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Slightly off-topic in this list context.
>http://fy.chalmers.se/~appro/linux/DVD+RW/ was updated this weekend.
>Major news are support for SONY DRU500 unit and improved compatibility
>control (see new "Compatibility caveat lector" paragraph on the page in
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