Re: cdrtools-2.01a37 ready

2004-08-25 Thread scdbackup
... _ non-zero _ pad bytes ... A short is ok or better pad 300 kB zeros would be of help. Joerg I cannot tell, better you use zeroes. Thanks, Joerg and Volker, for the advice. I'll keep padsize=300k with CDs. tradition suggest that TAO mode does not need to know the track size in

Re: cdrtools-2.01a37 ready

2004-08-24 Thread Joerg Schilling
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The tracksize was unknown - man cdrecord tells you how to deal with this problem. I have read that. But the man page as well as cdrecord tradition suggest that TAO mode does not need to know the track size in advance. Well there are writers tha need the track in

Re: cdrtools-2.01a37 ready

2004-08-23 Thread Joerg Schilling
Jacob Meuser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Aug 20, 2004 at 03:49:28PM +0200, Joerg Schilling wrote: How do you believe that you may run cdrecord without root privs without compromising the security of the whole system? On OpenBSD, members of the operator group are allowed to reboot the

Re: cdrtools-2.01a37 ready

2004-08-23 Thread Joerg Schilling
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Joerg Just download from ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/cdrecord/ProDVD/ I did, but then encountered some difficulties when burning CD-RW on the fly via cdrecord's stdin : Cdrecord-ProDVD-Clone 2.01b31 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2004 Jörg Schilling

Re: cdrtools-2.01a37 ready

2004-08-23 Thread scdbackup
me cdrecord: Must specify track size(s). Next i set the CDR_SECURITY variable and shwoops my pipe did work. It is reproducible: unset CDR_SECURITY spoils it again. Joerg Without CDR_SECURITY, a max size if 1 GB os allowed I see your point. The tracksize was unknown - man cdrecord

Re: cdrtools-2.01a37 ready

2004-08-23 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
Are there objections against having the only track of a CD ending with 300+ kB of _ non-zero _ pad bytes rather than the padding provided by cdrecord padsize=... or mkisofs -pad ? A short is ok or better pad 300 kB zeros would be of help. If this 300kb (150 sectors, 2 seconds) is to

Re: cdrtools-2.01a37 ready

2004-08-21 Thread Albert Cahalan
On OpenBSD, members of the operator group are allowed to reboot the system, change tapes ... normal things that someone trusted to operate the system would be allowed to do. Letting them write to CD/DVD is very low on the scale of bad things they could already do, like boot into single user

Re: cdrtools-2.01a37 ready

2004-08-21 Thread Jacob Meuser
On Sat, Aug 21, 2004 at 11:04:41AM -0400, Albert Cahalan wrote: On OpenBSD, members of the operator group are allowed to reboot the system, change tapes ... normal things that someone trusted to operate the system would be allowed to do. Letting them write to CD/DVD is very low on the

Re: cdrtools-2.01a37 ready

2004-08-20 Thread scdbackup
Volker Kuhlmann Let's not forget that there are 2 separate changes SuSE makes: the DVD addons (daft, and I've told them so), About that i don't care much. growisofs covers all my DVD needs. I understand, though, that these DVD addons are an unfriendly gesture towards the only person who

Re: cdrtools-2.01a37 ready

2004-08-20 Thread Jacob Meuser
On Fri, Aug 20, 2004 at 08:10:12AM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Volker Kuhlmann Let's not forget that there are 2 separate changes SuSE makes: the DVD addons (daft, and I've told them so), About that i don't care much. growisofs covers all my DVD needs. I understand, though, that

Re: cdrtools-2.01a37 ready

2004-08-20 Thread Joerg Schilling
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: come up with suggestions how to force SuSE to follow the GPL again. Jörg How about providing operational binaries for SuSE users at the cdrtools download site ? ... just check: ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/cdrecord/ProDVD/ I meant vanilla cdrecord

Re: cdrtools-2.01a37 ready

2004-08-20 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
cdrecod. The ProDVD binaries just behave the same as the cdrecord compiled from the GPLd part of the source in case you do not like to get more functionality than the GPLd source includes. Except for the time bomb? Volker -- Volker Kuhlmann is possibly list0570 with the

Re: cdrtools-2.01a37 ready

2004-08-20 Thread Joerg Schilling
Volker Kuhlmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Volker I would have provided cdrecord packages, alas I never had problems with the SuSE-supplied ones, therefore no point spending time on it. The binary (with DVD patch, disclaimer and all) which i found after system installation did not

Re: cdrtools-2.01a37 ready

2004-08-20 Thread Joerg Schilling
Volker Kuhlmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: cdrecod. The ProDVD binaries just behave the same as the cdrecord compiled from the GPLd part of the source in case you do not like to get more functionality than the GPLd source includes. Except for the time bomb? Try to keep yourself informed

Re: cdrtools-2.01a37 ready

2004-08-20 Thread Jacob Meuser
On Fri, Aug 20, 2004 at 03:49:28PM +0200, Joerg Schilling wrote: How do you believe that you may run cdrecord without root privs without compromising the security of the whole system? On OpenBSD, members of the operator group are allowed to reboot the system, change tapes ... normal things

Re: cdrtools-2.01a37 ready

2004-08-20 Thread scdbackup
Joerg Just download from ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/cdrecord/ProDVD/ I did, but then encountered some difficulties when burning CD-RW on the fly via cdrecord's stdin : Cdrecord-ProDVD-Clone 2.01b31 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2004 Jörg Schilling Unlocked features: Limited

Re: cdrtools-2.01a37 ready

2004-08-20 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
cdrecod. The ProDVD binaries just behave the same as the cdrecord compiled from the GPLd part of the source in case you do not like to get more functionality than the GPLd source includes. Except for the time bomb? Try to keep yourself informed before posting... It was a question.

Re: cdrtools-2.01a37 ready

2004-08-19 Thread Jacob Meuser
On Thu, Aug 19, 2004 at 08:47:50AM +0200, Lourens Veen wrote: On Thu 19 August 2004 07:51, Jacob Meuser wrote: I doubt any government regards the GPL as an entity, so the GPL has no rights. the GPL is a contract; following the GPL gives entities rights. SuSE can release a really buggy

Re: cdrtools-2.01a37 ready

2004-08-19 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
However, none of this is the issue. What Jörg is getting worked up about is that he gets email from people complaining about bugs in a version of his software that he has nothing to do with (neither that version of cdrecord nor the bugs). That's the real issue. I can totally sympathise

Re: cdrtools-2.01a37 ready

2004-08-19 Thread scdbackup
come up with suggestions how to force SuSE to follow the GPL again. Jörg How about providing operational binaries for SuSE users at the cdrtools download site ? That would help the little SuSE users because they do not have to cope with the compile time problems. That would consolidate the

Re: cdrtools-2.01a37 ready

2004-08-19 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
then why all the griping about GPL violations? If this question is in my direction: because I got fed up with constant and annoying gripes about GPL violations by someone who can't even point to a reasonable actual violation[1] and then can't comply himself[2]. Besides, I'd like to know the

Re: cdrtools-2.01a37 ready

2004-08-19 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
How about providing operational binaries for SuSE users at the cdrtools download site ? I would have provided cdrecord packages, alas I never had problems with the SuSE-supplied ones, therefore no point spending time on it. Volker -- Volker Kuhlmann is possibly list0570 with

Re: cdrtools-2.01a37 ready

2004-08-19 Thread Joerg Schilling
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] come up with suggestions how to force SuSE to follow the GPL again. Jörg How about providing operational binaries for SuSE users at the cdrtools download site ? If you would look a bit to the left and to the right before posting, you would know that this is true since

Re: cdrtools-2.01a37 ready

2004-08-19 Thread Lourens Veen
On Thu 19 August 2004 14:35, Joerg Schilling wrote: From: Volker Kuhlmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Obviously you're on the back foot and ran out of arguments, otherwise you wouldn't spend a whole email on discussing a minor point (so I didn't check my PPS carefully enough) and nothing else,

Re: cdrtools-2.01a37 ready

2004-08-19 Thread scdbackup
come up with suggestions how to force SuSE to follow the GPL again. Jörg How about providing operational binaries for SuSE users at the cdrtools download site ? ... just check: ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/cdrecord/ProDVD/ I meant vanilla cdrecord for CD. As produced by compiling

Re: cdrtools-2.01a37 ready

2004-08-18 Thread Joerg Schilling
From: Volker Kuhlmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Give a better method do deal with the GPL violations. There is absolutely no doubt that you are violating the GPL. SuSE is not, let me remind you firmly that the GPL grants the right to make changes, which you seem to conveniently ignore. SuSE even marks

Re: cdrtools-2.01a37 ready

2004-08-18 Thread Meelis Roos
JS There is absolutely no doubt that SuSE is violating GPL. JS JS /*--*/ JS Also, for each author's protection and ours, we want to make certain JS that everyone understands that there is no warranty for this free JS

Re: cdrtools-2.01a37 ready

2004-08-18 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
There is absolutely no doubt that SuSE is violating GPL. /*--*/ Also, for each author's protection and ours, we want to make certain that everyone understands that there is no warranty for this free software. If

Re: cdrtools-2.01a37 ready

2004-08-18 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
On Thu 19 Aug 2004 12:03:07 NZST +1200, Joerg Schilling wrote: you are nothing but a moron that has no clue and that is not even willing to do a comparison test with the real cdrecord because you are in fear that you might see immediately where the differences are :-( Yes, those differences

Re: cdrtools-2.01a37 ready

2004-08-18 Thread Jacob Meuser
On Thu, Aug 19, 2004 at 04:36:05PM +1200, Volker Kuhlmann wrote: On Thu 19 Aug 2004 12:03:07 NZST +1200, Joerg Schilling wrote: you are nothing but a moron that has no clue and that is not even willing to do a comparison test with the real cdrecord because you are in fear that you might

Re: cdrtools-2.01a37 ready

2004-08-17 Thread Joerg Schilling
From: Volker Kuhlmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] What do you think chances are of people upgrading to a version of cdrecord which is non-GPL and grossly violates the terms of the GPL? As you perpetually whinge about people not complying with clause blabla of the GPL, violating the GPL yourself gives the

Re: cdrtools-2.01a37 ready

2004-08-17 Thread Geoffrey
Joerg Schilling wrote: From: Volker Kuhlmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] What do you think chances are of people upgrading to a version of cdrecord which is non-GPL and grossly violates the terms of the GPL? As you perpetually whinge about people not complying with clause blabla of the GPL, violating the

Re: cdrtools-2.01a37 ready

2004-08-17 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
Why do you believe that a test that only hits people that are already known for violating the GPL (SuSE) is a problem? Give a better method do deal with the GPL violations. There is absolutely no doubt that you are violating the GPL. SuSE is not, let me remind you firmly that the GPL grants

cdrtools-2.01a37 ready

2004-08-16 Thread Joerg Schilling
NEW features of cdrtools-2.01a37: Note that we are close before publishing release 2.01 final. Please test for problems that might make the cdrtools unusable. It is unlikely that there will be anothe test release after cdrtools-2.01a37 All: - Added a Note to README.linux:

Re: cdrtools-2.01a37 ready

2004-08-16 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
It is unlikely that there will be anothe test release after cdrtools-2.01a37 What do you think chances are of people upgrading to a version of cdrecord which is non-GPL and grossly violates the terms of the GPL? As you perpetually whinge about people not complying with clause blabla of the GPL,