Re: tar, backup, growisofs, file names

2004-11-02 Thread Andy Polyakov
thank you very much for this hint, it was very helpful! a little addition to your meaning about the interoperatibily of the restore-mechanism: you wrote: Restore is performed with 'cat /cdrom/full.tar.bz2* | bunzip2 -c | tar xf -' , which is perfectly interoperable among all Unices including defici

Re: Re: tar, backup, growisofs, file names

2004-10-28 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
hi andy! thank you very much for this hint, it was very helpful! a little addition to your meaning about the interoperatibily of the restore-mechanism: you wrote: > Restore is performed with > 'cat /cdrom/full.tar.bz2* | bunzip2 -c | tar xf -' >, which is perfectly interoperable among all Unices

Re: tar, backup, growisofs, file names

2003-12-13 Thread Andy Polyakov
> > > > > > > how can i have * reading from stdin (from tar/bzip) > > > > > > > * named backup files and a filesystem > > > > > > > * no writing to hardisc first (i dont want > > > > > > > to rely on 4.4G beeing free.) > > > > > > now i dropped the

Re: tar, backup, growisofs, file names

2003-12-13 Thread Andy Polyakov
> > > > > > > how can i have * reading from stdin (from tar/bzip) > > > > > > > * named backup files and a filesystem > > > > > > > * no writing to hardisc first (i dont want > > > > > > > to rely on 4.4G beeing free.) > > > > > > now i dropped the

Re: tar, backup, growisofs, file names

2003-12-12 Thread Andreas Schuldei
* Andy Polyakov ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [031208 21:06]: > > > > > > how can i have * reading from stdin (from tar/bzip) > > > > > > * named backup files and a filesystem > > > > > > * no writing to hardisc first (i dont want > > > > > > to rely on 4.4G

Re: tar, backup, growisofs, file names

2003-12-12 Thread Andreas Schuldei
* Andy Polyakov ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [031208 21:06]: > > > > > > how can i have * reading from stdin (from tar/bzip) > > > > > > * named backup files and a filesystem > > > > > > * no writing to hardisc first (i dont want > > > > > > to rely on 4.4G

Re: tar, backup, growisofs, file names

2003-12-08 Thread Andy Polyakov
> > > > > how can i have * reading from stdin (from tar/bzip) > > > > > * named backup files and a filesystem > > > > > * no writing to hardisc first (i dont want > > > > > to rely on 4.4G beeing free.) > > now i dropped the last point and create

Re: tar, backup, growisofs, file names

2003-12-08 Thread Andy Polyakov
> > > > > how can i have * reading from stdin (from tar/bzip) > > > > > * named backup files and a filesystem > > > > > * no writing to hardisc first (i dont want > > > > > to rely on 4.4G beeing free.) > > now i dropped the last point and create

Re: tar, backup, growisofs, file names

2003-12-08 Thread Andreas Schuldei
* Andy Polyakov ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [031205 22:38]: > > > > /bin/tar cf - --files-from $INCLUDEFILE \ > > > > --exclude-from $EXCLUDEFILE \ > > > > --absolute-names \ > > > > | bzip2 --best --stdout \ > > > > | growisofs -Z /dev/dvd=/dev/fd/0 > > >

Re: tar, backup, growisofs, file names

2003-12-08 Thread Andreas Schuldei
* Andy Polyakov ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [031205 22:38]: > > > > /bin/tar cf - --files-from $INCLUDEFILE \ > > > > --exclude-from $EXCLUDEFILE \ > > > > --absolute-names \ > > > > | bzip2 --best --stdout \ > > > > | growisofs -Z /dev/dvd=/dev/fd/0 > > >

Re: tar, backup, growisofs, file names

2003-12-06 Thread Andy Polyakov
> > > i guess i can give up the "filesystem and filenames" bit, > > > > Give up the compress part instead and deploy growisofs -M with Ohly's > > patch. There're certain limitations too, most notably inability to > > restore hard-links (I have rockrestore in my TODO list, which would > > restore ro

Re: tar, backup, growisofs, file names

2003-12-06 Thread Andy Polyakov
> > > i guess i can give up the "filesystem and filenames" bit, > > > > Give up the compress part instead and deploy growisofs -M with Ohly's > > patch. There're certain limitations too, most notably inability to > > restore hard-links (I have rockrestore in my TODO list, which would > > restore ro

Re: tar, backup, growisofs, file names

2003-12-05 Thread Andreas Schuldei
* Andy Polyakov ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [031205 22:38]: > > i guess i can give up the "filesystem and filenames" bit, > > Give up the compress part instead and deploy growisofs -M with Ohly's > patch. There're certain limitations too, most notably inability to > restore hard-links (I have rockrestore

Re: tar, backup, growisofs, file names

2003-12-05 Thread Andreas Schuldei
* Andy Polyakov ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [031205 22:38]: > > i guess i can give up the "filesystem and filenames" bit, > > Give up the compress part instead and deploy growisofs -M with Ohly's > patch. There're certain limitations too, most notably inability to > restore hard-links (I have rockrestore

Re: tar, backup, growisofs, file names

2003-12-05 Thread Andy Polyakov
> You can easily have the same effect with DVD+RW and kernel-patch: Yes, you still need the kernel support for below. For writing part in particular, not for reading. Question was if it's possible to arrange for this *without* kerne

Re: tar, backup, growisofs, file names

2003-12-05 Thread Andy Polyakov
> > > /bin/tar cf - --files-from $INCLUDEFILE \ > > > --exclude-from $EXCLUDEFILE \ > > > --absolute-names \ > > > | bzip2 --best --stdout \ > > > | growisofs -Z /dev/dvd=/dev/fd/0 > > > > > > like this, growisofs writes to the raw medium, without a

Re: tar, backup, growisofs, file names

2003-12-05 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
> i guess i can give up the "filesystem and filenames" bit, if i > figure out how to access the later incremental backups. > would that work with growisofs just as with a sequential streamer device? The way tar ("tape archive") works on tapes is to dump a stream of blocks at the beginning of the

Re: tar, backup, growisofs, file names

2003-12-05 Thread Andy Polyakov
> You can easily have the same effect with DVD+RW and kernel-patch: Yes, you still need the kernel support for below. For writing part in particular, not for reading. Question was if it's possible to arrange for this *without* kerne

Re: tar, backup, growisofs, file names

2003-12-05 Thread Andy Polyakov
> > > /bin/tar cf - --files-from $INCLUDEFILE \ > > > --exclude-from $EXCLUDEFILE \ > > > --absolute-names \ > > > | bzip2 --best --stdout \ > > > | growisofs -Z /dev/dvd=/dev/fd/0 > > > > > > like this, growisofs writes to the raw medium, without a

Re: tar, backup, growisofs, file names

2003-12-05 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
> i guess i can give up the "filesystem and filenames" bit, if i > figure out how to access the later incremental backups. > would that work with growisofs just as with a sequential streamer device? The way tar ("tape archive") works on tapes is to dump a stream of blocks at the beginning of the

Re: tar, backup, growisofs, file names

2003-12-05 Thread Andreas Schuldei
* Andy Polyakov ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [031205 19:05]: > > /bin/tar cf - --files-from $INCLUDEFILE \ > > --exclude-from $EXCLUDEFILE \ > > --absolute-names \ > > | bzip2 --best --stdout \ > > | growisofs -Z /dev/dvd=/dev/fd/0 > > > > like this, growis

Re: tar, backup, growisofs, file names

2003-12-05 Thread Andreas Schuldei
* Andy Polyakov ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [031205 19:05]: > > /bin/tar cf - --files-from $INCLUDEFILE \ > > --exclude-from $EXCLUDEFILE \ > > --absolute-names \ > > | bzip2 --best --stdout \ > > | growisofs -Z /dev/dvd=/dev/fd/0 > > > > like this, growis

Re: tar, backup, growisofs, file names

2003-12-05 Thread Andy Polyakov
> /bin/tar cf - --files-from $INCLUDEFILE \ > --exclude-from $EXCLUDEFILE \ > --absolute-names \ > | bzip2 --best --stdout \ > | growisofs -Z /dev/dvd=/dev/fd/0 > > like this, growisofs writes to the raw medium, without a fs (i > think). that is ha

Re: tar, backup, growisofs, file names

2003-12-05 Thread Andy Polyakov
> /bin/tar cf - --files-from $INCLUDEFILE \ > --exclude-from $EXCLUDEFILE \ > --absolute-names \ > | bzip2 --best --stdout \ > | growisofs -Z /dev/dvd=/dev/fd/0 > > like this, growisofs writes to the raw medium, without a fs (i > think). that is ha

tar, backup, growisofs, file names

2003-12-04 Thread Andreas Schuldei
i want to backup my workstation (and soon my firewall remotely) to the dvd+rw media i bought especially for that reason. right now i use tar (for simplicity and long-term compatibility) and growisofs like this: /bin/tar cf - --files-from $INCLUDEFILE \ --exclude-from $EXCLUDEFIL

tar, backup, growisofs, file names

2003-12-04 Thread Andreas Schuldei
i want to backup my workstation (and soon my firewall remotely) to the dvd+rw media i bought especially for that reason. right now i use tar (for simplicity and long-term compatibility) and growisofs like this: /bin/tar cf - --files-from $INCLUDEFILE \ --exclude-from $EXCLUDEFIL