Re: [Celinux-dev] PDF documentation

2012-10-17 Thread Geert Uytterhoeven
On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 12:29 AM, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote: > Consider also, from their point of view, the issue of documentation > control. Notice that most companies don't provide download links for > old documentation... Yep. That's why I archive all datasheets I can get my hands on. Th

Re: [Celinux-dev] [Q] Default SLAB allocator

2012-10-17 Thread Shentino
On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 1:33 PM, Tim Bird wrote: > On 10/17/2012 12:20 PM, Shentino wrote: >> Potentially stupid question >> >> But is SLAB the one where all objects per cache have a fixed size and >> thus you don't have any bookkeeping overhead for the actual >> allocations? >> >> I remember some

Re: [Celinux-dev] PDF documentation

2012-10-17 Thread Russell King - ARM Linux
On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 04:05:55PM +0200, Peter Stuge wrote: > > Sometimes it is more easy just to copy paste and send by email part > > of documentation instead of using hyperlinks. > > A group collaborating around a given hardware certainly needs a > common repository of documentation. A file se

Re: [Celinux-dev] PDF documentation

2012-10-17 Thread Russell King - ARM Linux
On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 12:25:20AM +0200, Peter Stuge wrote: > Russell King - ARM Linux wrote: > > You have to be careful of copyright infringement. > > Yeah, because a company might sue for datasheet copyright > infringement when someone is (if only potentially) buying > their product. > > I wou

Re: [Celinux-dev] PDF documentation

2012-10-17 Thread Peter Stuge
Russell King - ARM Linux wrote: > If there was not a problem here, all documentation would explicitly > state that it is able to be freely distributed. Lawyers like job security as much as the guy on the floor, theirs just involves different psychology. //Peter __

Re: [Celinux-dev] PDF documentation

2012-10-17 Thread Constantine Shulyupin
On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 12:04 AM, Tim Bird wrote: > Being able to identify a page of an existing online PDF is already > possible with URLs. See > http://stackoverflow.com/questions/125632/is-it-possible-to-link-to-a-bookmark-within-a-pdf-using-url-parameters Yes, I know. I already wrote about it

Re: [Celinux-dev] PDF documentation

2012-10-17 Thread Peter Stuge
Russell King - ARM Linux wrote: > You have to be careful of copyright infringement. Yeah, because a company might sue for datasheet copyright infringement when someone is (if only potentially) buying their product. I would think that one through one more time. :) //Peter ___

Re: [Celinux-dev] PDF documentation

2012-10-17 Thread Tim Bird
On 10/17/2012 12:26 PM, Constantine Shulyupin wrote: > On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 6:51 PM, Peter Stuge wrote: >> Constantine Shulyupin wrote: >>> Peter, can you please just send me some links to most frequently >>> used online PDF? >> >> I don't have a particular PDF that is used more frequently than

Re: [Celinux-dev] [Q] Default SLAB allocator

2012-10-17 Thread Ezequiel Garcia
On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 5:58 PM, Tim Bird wrote: > On 10/17/2012 12:13 PM, Eric Dumazet wrote: >> On Wed, 2012-10-17 at 11:45 -0700, Tim Bird wrote: >> >>> 8G is a small web server? The RAM budget for Linux on one of >>> Sony's cameras was 10M. We're not merely not in the same ballpark - >>> you

Re: [Celinux-dev] [Q] Default SLAB allocator

2012-10-17 Thread Tim Bird
On 10/17/2012 12:13 PM, Eric Dumazet wrote: > On Wed, 2012-10-17 at 11:45 -0700, Tim Bird wrote: > >> 8G is a small web server? The RAM budget for Linux on one of >> Sony's cameras was 10M. We're not merely not in the same ballpark - >> you're in a ballpark and I'm trimming bonsai trees... :-) >

Re: [Celinux-dev] [Q] Default SLAB allocator

2012-10-17 Thread Shentino
On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 12:13 PM, Eric Dumazet wrote: > On Wed, 2012-10-17 at 11:45 -0700, Tim Bird wrote: > >> 8G is a small web server? The RAM budget for Linux on one of >> Sony's cameras was 10M. We're not merely not in the same ballpark - >> you're in a ballpark and I'm trimming bonsai tree

Re: [Celinux-dev] [Q] Default SLAB allocator

2012-10-17 Thread Tim Bird
On 10/17/2012 12:20 PM, Shentino wrote: > Potentially stupid question > > But is SLAB the one where all objects per cache have a fixed size and > thus you don't have any bookkeeping overhead for the actual > allocations? > > I remember something about one of the allocation mechanisms being > desi

Re: [Celinux-dev] PDF documentation

2012-10-17 Thread Constantine Shulyupin
On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 6:51 PM, Peter Stuge wrote: > Constantine Shulyupin wrote: >> Peter, can you please just send me some links to most frequently >> used online PDF? > > I don't have a particular PDF that is used more frequently than > others. Here's one I used recently, for a common flash ch

Re: [Celinux-dev] [Q] Default SLAB allocator

2012-10-17 Thread Eric Dumazet
On Wed, 2012-10-17 at 11:45 -0700, Tim Bird wrote: > 8G is a small web server? The RAM budget for Linux on one of > Sony's cameras was 10M. We're not merely not in the same ballpark - > you're in a ballpark and I'm trimming bonsai trees... :-) > Even laptops in 2012 have +4GB of ram. (Maybe n

Re: [Celinux-dev] [Q] Default SLAB allocator

2012-10-17 Thread Tim Bird
On 10/16/2012 12:16 PM, Eric Dumazet wrote: > On Tue, 2012-10-16 at 15:27 -0300, Ezequiel Garcia wrote: > >> Yes, we have some numbers: >> >> http://elinux.org/Kernel_dynamic_memory_analysis#Kmalloc_objects >> >> Are they too informal? I can add some details... >> >> They've been measured on a **v

Re: [Celinux-dev] PDF documentation

2012-10-17 Thread Peter Stuge
Constantine Shulyupin wrote: > >> - what PDF documentation do you use? (You can just drop a link to PDF, > >> for example http://www.ti.com/lit/ds/symlink/omap4430.pdf) > > > > I don't understand what you want to know. I have thousands of data > > sheets for parts that I have used, use, or plan to

Re: [Celinux-dev] PDF documentation

2012-10-17 Thread shiraz hashim
Dear Wolfgang, On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 3:42 PM, Wolfgang Denk wrote: > We use Foswiki for capabilities like this. Note that I definitely > don't want to start a "my wiki is better than your wiki" religous war > here ;-) I like documentation maintained on denx site. However, have you tried light

Re: [Celinux-dev] PDF documentation

2012-10-17 Thread Constantine Shulyupin
On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 4:05 PM, Peter Stuge wrote: > Constantine Shulyupin wrote: >> - what PDF documentation do you use? (You can just drop a link to PDF, >> for example http://www.ti.com/lit/ds/symlink/omap4430.pdf) > > I don't understand what you want to know. I have thousands of data > sheets

Re: [Celinux-dev] PDF documentation

2012-10-17 Thread Wolfgang Denk
Dear Tim, In message <507da84a.2080...@am.sony.com> you wrote: > > Several years ago, CELF tried to add a similar capability to > MoinMoin (the ability to take arbitrary page lists, and > automatically publish them to PDF). Unfortunately, it didn't > work very well. The tools to produce PDF were