Re: [CentOS] awstats, webalizer or...

2008-05-19 Thread Ashley M. Kirchner
Ray Van Dolson wrote: So what does everyone out there use to generate web statistics these days? Are the tried and true awstats or webalizer still the best out there? Ray Awffull - http://www.stedee.id.au/awffull -- H | It's not a bug - it's an undocumented feature. +-

[CentOS] awstats, webalizer or...

2008-05-19 Thread Ray Van Dolson
So what does everyone out there use to generate web statistics these days? Are the tried and true awstats or webalizer still the best out there? Ray ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos

[CentOS] Re: Best Motherboard

2008-05-19 Thread Scott Silva
on 5-15-2008 5:13 PM Guy Boisvert spake the following: Stephen John Smoogen wrote: On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 5:44 PM, Guy Boisvert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The only downside is that sometimes, it takes time to get them. It's like Tyan has problem producing enough for market demand. Actua

[CentOS] Re: tar spanning

2008-05-19 Thread Scott Silva
on 5-16-2008 4:28 AM Anne Wilson spake the following: On Thursday 15 May 2008 11:22:51 pm Scott Silva wrote: on 5-14-2008 6:11 PM Jim Perrin spake the following: On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 8:54 PM, Fajar Priyanto wrote: Googling my own name 'Fajar Priyanto Linux' returns 12,300 hits from Google

Re: [CentOS] Convert a real system in a DomU

2008-05-19 Thread Sergio Belkin
2008/5/18 Karanbir Singh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Sergio Belkin wrote: >> >> Hi, >> I was a server running Fedora 6. I want to migrate it to Xen on a >> Centos 5.1. Can I make something like >> > > You might want to take a look at this code that Richard has been working on > recently : > > http://et.

Re: [CentOS] Re: OT: Top Posting

2008-05-19 Thread Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams
On Mon, 2008-05-19 at 15:00 -0700, Ray Van Dolson wrote: > I read an interesting take on "why" once. Can't remember the link > though... nerds need to remember that normal folk appreciate niceities > in conversation, and normal folk need to remember that nerds are often > very blunt but aren't rea

Re: [CentOS] Re: clustered mail server?

2008-05-19 Thread Paul Heinlein
On Sun, 18 May 2008, Tom Diehl wrote: If you are sending secret or sensitive information via unencrypted email you already have a bigger problem then weather or not google is harvesting info. Email by design is insecure. Why anyone would believe otherwise is unclear to me. If you are encryptin

Re: [CentOS] Re: OT: Top Posting

2008-05-19 Thread MHR
On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 3:00 PM, Ray Van Dolson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Someone around for 10 years much less 51 years would know that > Karanbir's style of communication should be considered "blunt" and not > offensive. It's a common style of communication for developers. I > never take i

[CentOS] Re: OT: Top Posting

2008-05-19 Thread Scott Silva
on 5-16-2008 8:08 AM Carol Anne Ogdin spake the following: Les Mikesell questioned, "...who would go there to post any answers?" The answer is the same people who share here...and probably many more who find this sparse medium harder to navigate. There's a thriving community I helped create and

Re: [CentOS] Re: OT: Top Posting

2008-05-19 Thread Ray Van Dolson
On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 02:53:50PM -0700, Scott Silva wrote: > on 5-16-2008 8:14 AM Carol Anne Ogdin spake the following: >> Dear Mr. Singh: >> >> I understand you prefer this medium. I have practical experience with >> alternatives that have offered measurable and definite benefits to the >> comm

Re: [CentOS] Re: OT: Top Posting

2008-05-19 Thread John R Pierce
Scott Silva wrote: on 5-16-2008 8:14 AM Carol Anne Ogdin spake the following: ..Unfortunately, in 51 years in the computer industry, I've sometimes had to cope with behaviors like yours. It still makes me sad to experience such unhappy people who think that attack is the best way to enric

[CentOS] Re: OT: Top Posting

2008-05-19 Thread Scott Silva
on 5-16-2008 8:14 AM Carol Anne Ogdin spake the following: Dear Mr. Singh: I understand you prefer this medium. I have practical experience with alternatives that have offered measurable and definite benefits to the communities they serve. Your opinions are louder than your putative experience

Re: [CentOS] kickstart question with 2 network cards

2008-05-19 Thread Fabian Arrotin
On Mon, 19 May 2008, Jerry Geis wrote: I am using kickstart to automate installs. working nicely. I now have a box with 2 NIC cards and I am getting prompted for which nick to use. I have a line like: network --device eth0 --bootproto dhcp --hostname tmp.msgnet.com in my kickstart. This line

[CentOS] kickstart question with 2 network cards

2008-05-19 Thread Jerry Geis
I am using kickstart to automate installs. working nicely. I now have a box with 2 NIC cards and I am getting prompted for which nick to use. I have a line like: network --device eth0 --bootproto dhcp --hostname tmp.msgnet.com in my kickstart. This line does not seem to be enough to say instal

[CentOS] Re: symbolic linking

2008-05-19 Thread Robert Nichols
MHR wrote: Yes, using fqpn's is best in situations like this, but if I read the above correctly, you want: ln -s /mnt/jack/files /opt/files because you said you mounted jack's /opt on jill's /mnt/jack, not jack's / (root). Still, why you would get /opt/files/files is a mystery to me, too. Yo

Re: [CentOS] OT: Building NFS server with LVM and snapshots enabled

2008-05-19 Thread Theo Band
carlopmart wrote: Hi all, I need to build a NFS CentOS 5.1 based server with LVM and snaphosts for disaster recovering to serve storage to three ESX servers for a development dept. I have 500 GB for storage. Data that I need to store on this server is 150 GB and can grow to 210 GB to the end

Re: [CentOS] symbolic linking

2008-05-19 Thread MHR
On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 7:40 AM, Bowie Bailey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Frank Cox wrote: >> I have a number directories under /opt on computer jack. I want some >> (not all) of them to appear in /opt on computer jill. >> >> I have the /opt directory on jack mounted on jill under /mnt/jack >> I

RE: [CentOS] yum problem after last kernel (SOLVED)

2008-05-19 Thread Alex Palenschat
>Hello all, I've been googling and haven't found an answer. I have a >Centos 4.6 box that is having an issue since the last yum update. The >nss_ldap and kernel packages were the only packages installed/updated. >When I try to run yum I now receive: >[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# yum update >There was a p

Re: [CentOS] Re: [CentOS-announce] Impact of the Debian OpenSSL vulnerability

2008-05-19 Thread Daniel de Kok
On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 3:53 PM, Johnny Hughes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Les Mikesell wrote: >> Does anyone know the point of the patch in the first place? That is, why >> would a distro-specific modification have been needed at all? I don't >> suspect an intentional compromise here but I'm cu

RE: [CentOS] symbolic linking

2008-05-19 Thread Bowie Bailey
Frank Cox wrote: > I have a number directories under /opt on computer jack. I want some > (not all) of them to appear in /opt on computer jill. > > I have the /opt directory on jack mounted on jill under /mnt/jack > > If I go into the /opt directory on jill and do this: > > ln -s /mnt/jack/opt/

Re: [CentOS] Re: [CentOS-announce] Impact of the Debian OpenSSL vulnerability

2008-05-19 Thread Johnny Hughes
Les Mikesell wrote: Ralph Angenendt wrote: - What does our upstream think about this? - What do the OpenSSH developers think about this? Someone is going to need to ask those questions of the people... I don't think the OpenSSH devels really do care about that - there is no discussion whats

Re: [CentOS] Re: [CentOS-announce] Impact of the Debian OpenSSL vulnerability

2008-05-19 Thread Les Mikesell
Ralph Angenendt wrote: - What does our upstream think about this? - What do the OpenSSH developers think about this? Someone is going to need to ask those questions of the people... I don't think the OpenSSH devels really do care about that - there is no discussion whatsoever on the securesh

Re: [CentOS] clustered mail server?

2008-05-19 Thread Les Mikesell
Christopher Chan wrote: Sorry, I did not read your mail through properly. Not mounted on the secondary, okay. Anyway, quite a fair bit off complexity there in making sure the network block device does not get mounted by both boxes at the same time. Is it really worth the complexity when you

[CentOS] CentOS-announce Digest, Vol 39, Issue 9

2008-05-19 Thread centos-announce-request
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Re: [CentOS] clustered mail server?

2008-05-19 Thread Ralph Angenendt
Rudi Ahlers wrote: > Ralph Angenendt wrote: >> Because it would be shooting cannons at birds in this particular case. >> If you need to expose both nodes "to the public" all the time, you >> probably also run the software on both nodes - which would be more of a >> cluster than a failover setup >:)

Re: [CentOS] clustered mail server?

2008-05-19 Thread Rudi Ahlers
Ralph Angenendt wrote: Christopher Chan wrote: Ralph Angenendt wrote: There are primary/primary setups possible with drbd and gfs if you need both nodes to be exported at the same time - but that's not needed nor recommended in a failover situation. Why would it not be recommen

Re: [CentOS] clustered mail server?

2008-05-19 Thread Ralph Angenendt
Christopher Chan wrote: > Ralph Angenendt wrote: >> There are primary/primary setups possible with drbd and gfs if you need >> both nodes to be exported at the same time - but that's not needed nor >> recommended in a failover situation. >> > > Why would it not be recommended for a failover situati

Re: [CentOS] clustered mail server?

2008-05-19 Thread William L. Maltby
On Sun, 2008-05-18 at 23:50 +0100, Karanbir Singh wrote: > Christopher Chan wrote: > > > >> Besides, as John already pointed out, emails in the spools can hang > >> around for days. I believe most MTA's only discard completely after > >> 7days of non delivery. > > > > That default setting is no

Re: [CentOS] clustered mail server?

2008-05-19 Thread Christopher Chan
Ralph Angenendt wrote: Christopher Chan wrote: Ralph Angenendt wrote: No and yes. You can just use ext3 on both nodes as you normally only have the one on the primary node mounted - the other one is not accessed by anything. And yes, with heartbeat you "just" failover to the second node, if the

Re: [CentOS] clustered mail server?

2008-05-19 Thread Ralph Angenendt
Christopher Chan wrote: > Ralph Angenendt wrote: >> No and yes. You can just use ext3 on both nodes as you normally only >> have the one on the primary node mounted - the other one is not accessed >> by anything. And yes, with heartbeat you "just" failover to the second >> node, if the first one is

Re: [CentOS] clustered mail server?

2008-05-19 Thread Christopher Chan
Christopher Chan wrote: Ralph Angenendt wrote: Christopher Chan wrote: Okay, Les helped me with that one. RAID1 on the network. So you would have to use GFS or something like that with it and have the service down on the secondary unless it was sendmail you were running. No and yes. You can

Re: [CentOS] clustered mail server?

2008-05-19 Thread Christopher Chan
Ralph Angenendt wrote: Christopher Chan wrote: Okay, Les helped me with that one. RAID1 on the network. So you would have to use GFS or something like that with it and have the service down on the secondary unless it was sendmail you were running. No and yes. You can just use ext3 on both nod

Re: [CentOS] clustered mail server?

2008-05-19 Thread Ralph Angenendt
Christopher Chan wrote: > Okay, Les helped me with that one. RAID1 on the network. So you would have > to use GFS or something like that with it and have the service down on the > secondary unless it was sendmail you were running. No and yes. You can just use ext3 on both nodes as you normally o

Re: [CentOS] clustered mail server?

2008-05-19 Thread Christopher Chan
John R Pierce wrote: Christopher Chan wrote: That default setting is no longer applicable today. Users will scream if they find out that their mails have been sitting in the queue for a day. For today's businesses, one day can make or break a deal and so email, being a much faster form of comm

Re: [CentOS] clustered mail server?

2008-05-19 Thread Christopher Chan
Karanbir Singh wrote: Christopher Chan wrote: I am sorry but I do not share that view for incoming mail. The latency in getting the mail replicated probably is longer than it takes to do the actually delivery to the mail store. I am not sure what you mean by the word 'replication' but in most

Re: [CentOS] clustered mail server?

2008-05-19 Thread Christopher Chan
DRBD works approximately like raid1 mirroring. Unless something breaks it shouldn't add much latency since the duplicate disk will run at approximately the same speed as the master. RAID1 + network latency. Got it. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@