Re: [CentOS] CentOS Project Infrastructure

2009-08-07 Thread Ralph Angenendt
Kai Schaetzl wrote: > Marcus Moeller wrote on Thu, 6 Aug 2009 15:52:01 +0200: > > > Dear Community, > > I think the community would benefit from opening a new mailing list for > these issues. There's already a promo list, but a discussion like this > doesn't really fit on it. I also think it do

Re: [CentOS] CentOS Project Infrastructure

2009-08-07 Thread Ned Slider
Marcus Moeller wrote: > Dear Russ, > Don't misunderstand. I think you have done and are doing a great job but some things are out of any single person's control. All I'm suggesting is that it would be nice if there were an easy answer to the question of "what if" those things

Re: [CentOS] BUG in httpd 2.2.3-22.el5.centos.2

2009-08-07 Thread Filipe Brandenburger
Hi, On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 17:58, Mark Hedges wrote: > Who packages httpd for Centos?  Is there some way to contact > a person to ask them about this? You can report problems on the CentOS bug tracker at: http://bugs.centos.org/ If the problem is reproducible in RHEL as well, you might as well r

Re: [CentOS] so many arp caches why?

2009-08-07 Thread Steven Tardy
MontyRee wrote: > # ifconfig > eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:A0:D1:E7:91:CC > inet addr:192.168.195.36 Bcast:192.168.195.63 Mask:255.255.255.192 > # route -n > 192.168.195.00.0.0.0 255.255.255.192 U 0 00 eth0 > 0.0.0.0 192.168.195.36

Re: [CentOS] firewall question

2009-08-07 Thread William L. Maltby
On Thu, 2009-08-06 at 22:19 -0700, Linux Advocate wrote: > - Original Message > > From: William L. Maltby > > > > > BTW, Scott and other IPCop users, there is a new version of IPCop > > > coming out. It's in testing now: > > > > That's good to hear. I was afraid the project was dead. It

[CentOS] Internet squid proxy for banner and add filtering and Nagios

2009-08-07 Thread Dave
Hello, I've got a standalone internet server, it's a vps and i'd like to use it for proxy and add filtering. Since it's directly accessible from the internet i need to lock it down so only designated users can get to it, i'd prefer encrypted transmission of credentials. I've also w

Re: [CentOS] CentOS Project Infrastructure

2009-08-07 Thread Johnny Hughes
Marcus Moeller wrote: > Dear Andrew. >>> (like the Contrib repo) are getting a bit clearer so I >>> guess we are on the right track. >> Contib repo !!! What Contrib repo ? The last time i tried to >> contribute i was told to head on to Fedora or rpmforge. > > The Contrib repository has been re-in

Re: [CentOS] CentOS Project Infrastructure

2009-08-07 Thread Johnny Hughes
Ned Slider wrote: > Marcus Moeller wrote: >> Dear Russ, >> > Don't misunderstand. I think you have done and are doing a great job > but some things are out of any single person's control. All I'm > suggesting is that it would be nice if there were an easy answer to the > question

[CentOS] CentOS Project Infrastructure

2009-08-07 Thread R P Herrold
On Fri, 7 Aug 2009, Ned Slider wrote: > From my own experiences when trying to contribute, I have repeatedly > been told not to bother, not to do it and to go away. Being told 'no' differs from being told 'to go away' -- #centos IRC is about the only place we do that, and that is under a standa

[CentOS] CentOS as a router

2009-08-07 Thread James B. Byrne
I am setting up a small CentOS-5.3 host to act as a router. I have the device configured and working. What I am trying to accomplish now is configuring the firewall so as to protect both the router and the LAN. The host configuration has the WAN attached to eth0 (IP_ADDR = A) and the LAN attache

Re: [CentOS] BUG in httpd 2.2.3-22.el5.centos.2

2009-08-07 Thread Johnny Hughes
Mark Hedges wrote: > On Sat, 1 Aug 2009, Ned Slider wrote: >> Filipe Brandenburger wrote: >>> On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 12:30, Mark Hedges wrote: > http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/SELinux Is this why DBD::SQLite broke under mod_perl recently in CentOS? >>> It might or might not be... In or

Re: [CentOS] CentOS as a router

2009-08-07 Thread Paul Heinlein
On Fri, 7 Aug 2009, James B. Byrne wrote: > I am setting up a small CentOS-5.3 host to act as a router. I have > the device configured and working. What I am trying to accomplish > now is configuring the firewall so as to protect both the router and > the LAN. [] In the past, I'd have tr

Re: [CentOS] CentOS as a router

2009-08-07 Thread Benjamin Franz
James B. Byrne wrote: > My understanding is that INCOMING packets, for the purposes of > iptables, originate outside the host interfaces and that OUTGOING > packets originate from, or are forwarded across, the host itself. > So, as I understand things, traffic from network C/24 destined to > B/24

Re: [CentOS] CentOS as a router

2009-08-07 Thread Johnny Hughes
Paul Heinlein wrote: > On Fri, 7 Aug 2009, James B. Byrne wrote: > >> I am setting up a small CentOS-5.3 host to act as a router. I have >> the device configured and working. What I am trying to accomplish >> now is configuring the firewall so as to protect both the router and >> the LAN. [..

Re: [CentOS] CentOS Project Infrastructure

2009-08-07 Thread Bob Taylor
On Fri, 2009-08-07 at 10:40 -0500, Johnny Hughes wrote: > Ned Slider wrote: > > Marcus Moeller wrote: > >> Dear Russ, [huge snip] > Look ... if you understand how build work, and I know you do, then you > understand that one can not release updates that are built on 4.8 > without releasing 4.8.

Re: [CentOS] CentOS as a router

2009-08-07 Thread Filipe Brandenburger
Hi, On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 12:07, James B. Byrne wrote: > The host configuration has the WAN attached to eth0 (IP_ADDR = A) > and the LAN attached to eth1 (IP_ADDR = B).  The default gateway for > B is A.  The default gateway for B is B-1. This statement does not make any sense to me... Could you

Re: [CentOS] CentOS Project Infrastructure

2009-08-07 Thread Timo Schoeler
Dear Russ, > > [huge snip] > >> Look ... if you understand how build work, and I know you do, then you >> understand that one can not release updates that are built on 4.8 >> without releasing 4.8. >> >> If you need the updates faster, feel free to pay Redhat for them. >> >>> There - I feel

Re: [CentOS] CentOS as a router

2009-08-07 Thread Steve Thompson
On Fri, 7 Aug 2009, Paul Heinlein wrote: > In the past, I'd have tried to craft the iptables rules by hand. Now, > older and lazier, I rely on shorewall. This is a +1 for shorewall, which is 42 times simpler [*] than doing it by hand. Steve [*] Actually, it's more than 42, but 42 is The Answer

Re: [CentOS] CentOS Project Infrastructure

2009-08-07 Thread Johnny Hughes
Bob Taylor wrote: > On Fri, 2009-08-07 at 10:40 -0500, Johnny Hughes wrote: >> Ned Slider wrote: >>> Marcus Moeller wrote: Dear Russ, > > [huge snip] > >> Look ... if you understand how build work, and I know you do, then you >> understand that one can not release updates that are built on 4

Re: [CentOS] CentOS Project Infrastructure

2009-08-07 Thread Marko A. Jennings
On Fri, August 7, 2009 12:54 pm, Johnny Hughes wrote: > Bob Taylor wrote: >> On Fri, 2009-08-07 at 10:40 -0500, Johnny Hughes wrote: >>> Ned Slider wrote: Marcus Moeller wrote: > Dear Russ, >> >> [huge snip] >> >>> Look ... if you understand how build work, and I know you do, then you >>>

Re: [CentOS] BUG in httpd 2.2.3-22.el5.centos.2

2009-08-07 Thread nate
Mark Hedges wrote: > Here's what people have collected so far: > > https://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=47983 > > This is a message I posted when I signed up for the list, > I thought it was ignored but it looks like it didn't post: I looked through it and wow it does seem like a fairly deep

Re: [CentOS] CentOS Project Infrastructure

2009-08-07 Thread Les Mikesell
Johnny Hughes wrote: > There - I feel so much better getting that lot off my chest :) >>> There are always other distros if you don't like this one ... >> Exactly the *wrong* response. I wonder if responses similar to this >> loses potential users or loses existing customers. Personally, it >>

Re: [CentOS] CentOS Project Infrastructure

2009-08-07 Thread nate
Les Mikesell wrote: > *sigh*... Don't take this as a complaint about the quality of the > project, just the PR vibes here. You aren't giving people the warm > fuzzies about the project's ability to survive when you make it come > across as having a stranglehold of control. If we wanted a one man

Re: [CentOS] CentOS Project Infrastructure

2009-08-07 Thread Marcus Moeller
Dear Johnny, > Well, if something is going to be released as part of CentOS (contrib > repo or not), then it is going to be correct and it is going to be > vetted by someone that I PERSONALLY trust ... or it is going to be > personally tested by me prior to release.  Otherwise, it is not going to

[CentOS] CentOS Project Infrastructure

2009-08-07 Thread R P Herrold
On Fri, 7 Aug 2009, Les Mikesell wrote: > project, just the PR vibes here. You aren't giving people the warm > fuzzies about the project's ability to survive when you make it come > across as having a stranglehold of control. I missed the memo -- what do we have a stranglehold on? > We'd feel be

[CentOS] CentOS Project Infrastructure

2009-08-07 Thread R P Herrold
On Fri, 7 Aug 2009, Marcus Moeller wrote: > Then you should not perhaps not call it 'Contrib' repository > if no one that you do not personally know can add content to > it. You don't like reputational vetting and a meritocracy, or how it is run by the people in charge who have as one goal: no

Re: [CentOS] CentOS Project Infrastructure

2009-08-07 Thread Les Mikesell
nate wrote: > >> *sigh*... Don't take this as a complaint about the quality of the >> project, just the PR vibes here. You aren't giving people the warm >> fuzzies about the project's ability to survive when you make it come >> across as having a stranglehold of control. If we wanted a one man sho

Re: [CentOS] CentOS Project Infrastructure

2009-08-07 Thread Marcus Moeller
2009/8/7 R P Herrold : > On Fri, 7 Aug 2009, Marcus Moeller wrote: > >> Then you should not perhaps not call it 'Contrib' repository >> if no one that you do not personally know can add content to >> it. > > You don't like reputational vetting and a meritocracy, or how > it is run by the people in

Re: [CentOS] CentOS Project Infrastructure

2009-08-07 Thread Les Mikesell
R P Herrold wrote: > >> project, just the PR vibes here. You aren't giving people the warm >> fuzzies about the project's ability to survive when you make it come >> across as having a stranglehold of control. > > I missed the memo -- what do we have a stranglehold on? Remember, I'm just comment

Re: [CentOS] CentOS Project Infrastructure

2009-08-07 Thread Andrew Colin Kissa
So is it contrib repo or my buddies repo ? All we are asking is put in place the mechanisms to vet the reputation. The project can not be a true community project when there are no mechanisms for contribution. On 07 Aug 2009, at 9:00 PM, Les Mikesell wrote: > That was in response to Johnny

[CentOS] Flow-Tools RPM for CentOS 5.3

2009-08-07 Thread Camron W. Fox
Alle, Does anyone know if there is/where to get an rpm of flow-tools V0.66 or better for CentOS/RHEL 5.3? We've been trying to build from the SRPM @ http://cng.ateneo.net/cng/wyu/software/srpm/flow-tools-0.68-2.src.rpm with no luck. Best Regards, Camron -- Camron W. Fox Hilo

Re: [CentOS] CentOS Project Infrastructure

2009-08-07 Thread Johnny Hughes
Les Mikesell wrote: > R P Herrold wrote: >>> project, just the PR vibes here. You aren't giving people the warm >>> fuzzies about the project's ability to survive when you make it come >>> across as having a stranglehold of control. >> I missed the memo -- what do we have a stranglehold on? > > Re

Re: [CentOS] Flow-Tools RPM for CentOS 5.3

2009-08-07 Thread Akemi Yagi
On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 1:26 PM, Camron W. Fox wrote: > Alle, > >        Does anyone know if there is/where to get an rpm of flow-tools V0.66 or > better for CentOS/RHEL 5.3? >        We've been trying to build from the SRPM @ > http://cng.ateneo.net/cng/wyu/software/srpm/flow-tools-0.68-2.src.rpm >

Re: [CentOS] CentOS Project Infrastructure

2009-08-07 Thread Johnny Hughes
Johnny Hughes wrote: > Les Mikesell wrote: >> R P Herrold wrote: project, just the PR vibes here. You aren't giving people the warm fuzzies about the project's ability to survive when you make it come across as having a stranglehold of control. >>> I missed the memo -- what do we hav

Re: [CentOS] CentOS Project Infrastructure

2009-08-07 Thread Johnny Hughes
Johnny Hughes wrote: > Johnny Hughes wrote: >> Les Mikesell wrote: >>> R P Herrold wrote: > project, just the PR vibes here. You aren't giving people the warm > fuzzies about the project's ability to survive when you make it come > across as having a stranglehold of control. I miss

Re: [CentOS] Flow-Tools RPM for CentOS 5.3

2009-08-07 Thread Mr. X
--- On Fri, 8/7/09, Camron W. Fox wrote: > From: Camron W. Fox > Subject: [CentOS] Flow-Tools RPM for CentOS 5.3 > To: "CentOS mailing list" > Date: Friday, August 7, 2009, 1:26 PM > Alle, > > Does anyone know if there is/where to > get an rpm of flow-tools V0.66 or > better for CentOS/

[CentOS] CentOS Project Infrastructure

2009-08-07 Thread R P Herrold
On Fri, 7 Aug 2009, Les Mikesell wrote: > And meanwhile there are things that aren't on schedule. > Or maybe there isn't a schedule - or maybe no one is > supposed to expect one. oh please -- You've been around software, computers, and FOSS long enough to know the game -- Publish a schedule

Re: [CentOS] CentOS Project Infrastructure

2009-08-07 Thread Ron Blizzard
On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 2:00 PM, Les Mikesell wrote: > > That was in response to Johnny's comment about having to personally know > someone before they would be allowed to touch anything in the > repository.  What if something happens to Johnny?  Is there a bigger > picture? I'm not quite sure what

Re: [CentOS] Flow-Tools RPM for CentOS 5.3

2009-08-07 Thread Camron W. Fox
Akemi Yagi wrote: > On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 1:26 PM, Camron W. Fox wrote: >> Alle, >> >>Does anyone know if there is/where to get an rpm of flow-tools V0.66 >> or >> better for CentOS/RHEL 5.3? >>We've been trying to build from the SRPM @ >> http://cng.ateneo.net/cng/wyu/software/sr

Re: [CentOS] Flow-Tools RPM for CentOS 5.3

2009-08-07 Thread Frank Cox
On Fri, 07 Aug 2009 12:54:26 -1000 Camron W. Fox wrote: > /root/rpm/SOURCES/flow-capture.init;4a7caede: cpio: MD5 sum mismatch Fedora 11 uses a different checksum algorithm than Fedora 10 and below. -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Melville Sask ~ http://www.melvilletheatre.com ___

Re: [CentOS] Flow-Tools RPM for CentOS 5.3

2009-08-07 Thread Akemi Yagi
On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 4:13 PM, Frank Cox wrote: > On Fri, 07 Aug 2009 12:54:26 -1000 > Camron W. Fox wrote: > >> /root/rpm/SOURCES/flow-capture.init;4a7caede: cpio: MD5 sum mismatch > > Fedora 11 uses a different checksum algorithm than Fedora 10 and below. You might want to start with Fedora Cor

Re: [CentOS] CentOS Project Infrastructure

2009-08-07 Thread Mike A. Harris
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 10:02 AM, Ned Slider wrote: >> R P Herrold wrote: >>> On Thu, 6 Aug 2009, Marcus Moeller wrote: >>> >> >> >> The bit that causes all the confusion here is the "C" in the name >> CentOS. It would all

Re: [CentOS] Flow-Tools RPM for CentOS 5.3

2009-08-07 Thread Mike A. Harris
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Camron W. Fox wrote: > Yagi-san, > > We've tried that with flow-tools-0.68.4.1-2.fc11.src.rpm but get the > following error: > > r...@rb3:/var/tmp [1002/2]# rpmbuild --rebuild > flow-tools-0.68.4.1-2.fc11.src.rpm > Installing flow-tools-0.68.

[CentOS] ASP Pages?

2009-08-07 Thread ML
I have a friend that hosts a few basic ASP pages. some simple links and plays a few media files with Windows Media Player. Is there any way I can host his site on my Linux Server? Without re- writing it for him -jason ___ CentOS mailing list Ce

Re: [CentOS] BUG in httpd 2.2.3-22.el5.centos.2

2009-08-07 Thread Mark Hedges
> You can report problems on the CentOS bug tracker at: > http://bugs.centos.org/ Umm, as I said, I couldn't sign up to file a bug report. Nope, still broken. APPLICATION ERROR #2800 Invalid form security token. Did you submit the form twice by accident? > If the problem is reproducibl

Re: [CentOS] BUG in httpd 2.2.3-22.el5.centos.2

2009-08-07 Thread Mark Hedges
> Yeah it doesn't make sense to me why it's an advantage for > RedHat to selectively backport patches instead of keeping > up what the developers believe is a stable API for all > callers. It's the same corporate cargo cult they were in > when they made the mod_perl1 "compatibility" interface for >

Re: [CentOS] ASP Pages?

2009-08-07 Thread Joseph L. Casale
>I have a friend that hosts a few basic ASP pages. some simple links >and plays a few media files with Windows Media Player. > >Is there any way I can host his site on my Linux Server? Without re- >writing it for him Possibly, yes. ___ CentOS mailing

Re: [CentOS] ASP Pages?

2009-08-07 Thread John R Pierce
ML wrote: > I have a friend that hosts a few basic ASP pages. some simple links > and plays a few media files with Windows Media Player. > > Is there any way I can host his site on my Linux Server? Without re- > writing it for him > it really depends on what those ASP pages are doing.

Re: [CentOS] CentOS Project Infrastructure

2009-08-07 Thread Bob Taylor
On Fri, 2009-08-07 at 11:54 -0500, Johnny Hughes wrote: > > Bob Taylor wrote: [snip] > > Exactly the *wrong* response. I wonder if responses similar to this > > loses potential users or loses existing customers. Personally, it > > disgusts me. > > It is not *wrong* ... any more than your respon