Re: [CentOS] Corporate support for CentOS

2011-03-26 Thread Johnny Hughes
On 03/26/2011 07:46 PM, Ian Murray wrote: > >> There have been a number of recent conversations on the developer list and >> this list about CentOS. My initial thought was why not have CentOS and SL >> merge. Since they have different goals I can understand the reason not to. >> So my next q

Re: [CentOS] Corporate support for CentOS

2011-03-26 Thread Ian Murray
>There have been a number of recent conversations on the developer list and >this list about CentOS.  My initial thought was why not have CentOS and SL >merge.  Since they have different goals I can understand the reason not to.  >So my next question is, has no corporate entity offered to spons

Re: [CentOS] My new server

2011-03-26 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
On Sat, 2011-03-26 at 19:14 -0400, Matty wrote: > On Sat, Mar 26, 2011 at 3:55 PM, John R Pierce wrote: > > On 03/26/11 12:51 PM, Rainer Duffner wrote: > >> Use VLAN-trunks. > > someone using a $350 micro server as his ADSL gateway is highly unlikely > > to have layer 2 managed switches capable of

Re: [CentOS] My new server

2011-03-26 Thread Matty
On Sat, Mar 26, 2011 at 3:55 PM, John R Pierce wrote: > On 03/26/11 12:51 PM, Rainer Duffner wrote: >> Use VLAN-trunks. > > someone using a $350 micro server as his ADSL gateway is highly unlikely > to have layer 2 managed switches capable of handling VLANs. I'm not sure this is an accurate state

Re: [CentOS] Corporate support for CentOS

2011-03-26 Thread Gary Scarborough
Well, I ask because there are people supporting SL to the degree that they have full time people working on it, yet they don't actually aim for 100% binary compatibility, just "good enough". I have used CentOS for a while and wasn't really aware of SL until recently. With all the projects that get

Re: [CentOS] My new server

2011-03-26 Thread Lamar Owen
On Saturday, March 26, 2011 02:13:49 pm John R Pierce wrote: > On 03/26/11 9:51 AM, Ray Van Dolson wrote: > > The HP MicroServer does have hot-swappable trays... Great little box. > the specs say non-hot-plug repeatedly. [snip] > and refers to them as 'internal SATA drives' ? While in most cases

Re: [CentOS] Corporate support for CentOS

2011-03-26 Thread Rainer Duffner
Am 26.03.2011 um 22:16 schrieb Gary Scarborough: > There have been a number of recent conversations on the developer > list and this list about CentOS. My initial thought was why not > have CentOS and SL merge. Since they have different goals I can > understand the reason not to. So my n

Re: [CentOS] Locked myself out of MySQL

2011-03-26 Thread Robert Heller
At Sat, 26 Mar 2011 13:24:40 -0700 CentOS mailing list wrote: > > Darn! I must have either made a typo or my use of a ";" in the > MySQL root password so now I am locked out. > > Is there a work around or do I have to uninstall MySQL and reinstall? Is the data in the database expendable (or

[CentOS] Corporate support for CentOS

2011-03-26 Thread Gary Scarborough
There have been a number of recent conversations on the developer list and this list about CentOS. My initial thought was why not have CentOS and SL merge. Since they have different goals I can understand the reason not to. So my next question is, has no corporate entity offered to sponsor full t

Re: [CentOS] The delays on CentOS 5.6 are causing EPEL incompatibilities

2011-03-26 Thread Lamar Owen
On Saturday, March 26, 2011 02:53:19 pm Les Mikesell wrote: > Does an > rpmbuild --rebuild of one of the packages in question on a stock RH system > create a binary that would fail the CentOS QA? This is the core of the question. As I don't have an RHEL 6 system available to try, I can't direc

Re: [CentOS] Locked myself out of MySQL

2011-03-26 Thread Todd Cary
On 3/26/2011 1:36 PM, Jure Pečar wrote: > On Sat, 26 Mar 2011 13:24:40 -0700 > Todd Cary wrote: > >> Darn! I must have either made a typo or my use of a ";" in the >> MySQL root password so now I am locked out. >> >> Is there a work around or do I have to uninstall MySQL and reinstall? > --skip-g

Re: [CentOS] The delays on CentOS 5.6 are causing EPEL incompatibilities

2011-03-26 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Sat, Mar 26, 2011 at 2:53 PM, Les Mikesell wrote: > On 3/26/11 12:44 PM, Lamar Owen wrote: >> >> Les, the upstream source RPMs aren't even the "source source" for the >> upstream build; SRPMS are just a by product of the build of the binaries >> from source in an SCM (managed by Red Hat's koj

Re: [CentOS] Locked myself out of MySQL

2011-03-26 Thread Todd Cary
On 3/26/2011 1:33 PM, n...@nux.ro wrote: > Todd Cary writes: > >> Darn! I must have either made a typo or my use of a ";" in the >> MySQL root password so now I am locked out. >> >> Is there a work around or do I have to uninstall MySQL and reinstall? > service mysqld stop > mysqld_safe --user=mys

Re: [CentOS] My new server

2011-03-26 Thread Les Mikesell
On 3/26/11 2:55 PM, John R Pierce wrote: > On 03/26/11 12:51 PM, Rainer Duffner wrote: >> Use VLAN-trunks. > > someone using a $350 micro server as his ADSL gateway is highly unlikely > to have layer 2 managed switches capable of handling VLANs. I think unmanaged switches will pass vlan trunk traf

Re: [CentOS] Locked myself out of MySQL

2011-03-26 Thread Jure Pečar
On Sat, 26 Mar 2011 13:24:40 -0700 Todd Cary wrote: > Darn! I must have either made a typo or my use of a ";" in the > MySQL root password so now I am locked out. > > Is there a work around or do I have to uninstall MySQL and reinstall? --skip-grant-tables Check mysql docs next time. --

Re: [CentOS] Locked myself out of MySQL

2011-03-26 Thread nux
Todd Cary writes: > Darn! I must have either made a typo or my use of a ";" in the > MySQL root password so now I am locked out. > > Is there a work around or do I have to uninstall MySQL and reinstall? service mysqld stop mysqld_safe --user=mysql --skip-grant-tables & mysql -u root update mysq

[CentOS] Locked myself out of MySQL

2011-03-26 Thread Todd Cary
Darn! I must have either made a typo or my use of a ";" in the MySQL root password so now I am locked out. Is there a work around or do I have to uninstall MySQL and reinstall? Todd -- Ariste Software Petaluma, CA 94952 http://www.aristesoftware.com _

Re: [CentOS] My new server

2011-03-26 Thread Rainer Duffner
Am 26.03.2011 um 20:55 schrieb John R Pierce: > On 03/26/11 12:51 PM, Rainer Duffner wrote: >> Use VLAN-trunks. > > someone using a $350 micro server as his ADSL gateway is highly > unlikely > to have layer 2 managed switches capable of handling VLANs. E.g. the HP Procurve 1800-8G is quite c

Re: [CentOS] My new server

2011-03-26 Thread John R Pierce
On 03/26/11 12:51 PM, Rainer Duffner wrote: > Use VLAN-trunks. someone using a $350 micro server as his ADSL gateway is highly unlikely to have layer 2 managed switches capable of handling VLANs. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists

Re: [CentOS] My new server

2011-03-26 Thread Rainer Duffner
Am 26.03.2011 um 13:39 schrieb Timothy Murphy: > > Also there is no CD drive. > But there are extensive instructions (on a CD!) > about how to instal RHEL-5.5. > Best to use cobbler for that anyway. > > One last thing - there is only one ethernet socket. > This surprised me a little, > as I

Re: [CentOS] My new server

2011-03-26 Thread Benjamin Donnachie
On 26 Mar 2011, at 17:25, Timothy Murphy wrote: > Well, I was hoping to connect one to my ADSL modem (non WiFi) > and one to my router (LinkSys WRT54GL router). If you can't implement vlans, what about 'trunking on the cheap' with both subnets using the same switch? Not ideal, but doable. Ben

Re: [CentOS] My new server

2011-03-26 Thread Drew
> And I see I have to put in a PCI-E NIC, not a common-or-garden PCI. > Why can't they leave things as they are ... Because a PCIe x1 slot smokes your run of the mill PCI slot any day? -- Drew "Nothing in life is to be feared. It is only to be understood." --Marie Curie ___

Re: [CentOS] {OT] Re: Installing IMA (Integrity Measurement Architecture) on CentOS 5.5

2011-03-26 Thread Les Mikesell
On 3/26/11 12:51 PM, Lamar Owen wrote: > On Friday, March 25, 2011 03:35:29 pm Les Mikesell wrote: >> If 'get there' is defined as all redundant copies being in a consistent >> state, then you'll fail at this point in transactional mode in the >> fairly likely event that you have a network blip bet

Re: [CentOS] The delays on CentOS 5.6 are causing EPEL incompatibilities

2011-03-26 Thread Les Mikesell
On 3/26/11 12:44 PM, Lamar Owen wrote: > > Les, the upstream source RPMs aren't even the "source source" for the > upstream build; SRPMS are just a by product of the build of the binaries from > source in an SCM (managed by Red Hat's koji), and in theory, given the same > identical environment t

Re: [CentOS] My new server

2011-03-26 Thread Ray Van Dolson
On Sat, Mar 26, 2011 at 11:13:49AM -0700, John R Pierce wrote: > On 03/26/11 9:51 AM, Ray Van Dolson wrote: > > The HP MicroServer does have hot-swappable trays... Great little box. > > the specs say non-hot-plug repeatedly. > http://h18004.www1.hp.com/products/quickspecs/13716_na/13716_na.html >

Re: [CentOS] My new server

2011-03-26 Thread John R Pierce
On 03/26/11 9:51 AM, Ray Van Dolson wrote: > The HP MicroServer does have hot-swappable trays... Great little box. the specs say non-hot-plug repeatedly. http://h18004.www1.hp.com/products/quickspecs/13716_na/13716_na.html http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/us/en/sm/WF06a/15351-15351-4237916-4237918-

Re: [CentOS] {OT] Re: Installing IMA (Integrity Measurement Architecture) on CentOS 5.5

2011-03-26 Thread Lamar Owen
On Friday, March 25, 2011 03:35:29 pm Les Mikesell wrote: > If 'get there' is defined as all redundant copies being in a consistent > state, then you'll fail at this point in transactional mode in the > fairly likely event that you have a network blip between the db master > and slave(s) or one

Re: [CentOS] The delays on CentOS 5.6 are causing EPEL incompatibilities

2011-03-26 Thread Lamar Owen
On Friday, March 25, 2011 09:55:34 pm Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > I'm speaking up for our CentOS repackagers here. That kind of > bootstrapping takes cycles and practice, and double checking. In > theory, they could. Our CentOS rebuilders have exposed a few > dependencies for which the SRPM's are no

Re: [CentOS] My new server

2011-03-26 Thread John R Pierce
On 03/26/11 10:20 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote: > And I see I have to put in a PCI-E NIC, not a common-or-garden PCI. > Why can't they leave things as they are ... thats what people said about ISA bus when PCI came out and replaced it. btw, make sure you get a LOW PROFILE pci-e card for that thing.

Re: [CentOS] Error 2002 with MySQL on a new Centos 5.5 installation

2011-03-26 Thread Eero Volotinen
2011/3/26 Todd Cary : > With my new Centos installation, I get the following error when I type in > > # mysql > > ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket > '/var/lib/mysql/mysql.sock' (2) > > I have Googled the error, but the results do not appear to be helpful try s

[CentOS] Error 2002 with MySQL on a new Centos 5.5 installation

2011-03-26 Thread Todd Cary
With my new Centos installation, I get the following error when I type in # mysql ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/lib/mysql/mysql.sock' (2) I have Googled the error, but the results do not appear to be helpful Todd -- Ariste Software Petaluma, C

Re: [CentOS] My new server

2011-03-26 Thread Timothy Murphy
Peter Larsen wrote: > One nic is also quite common. It depends on what you need the server to > do. Well, I was hoping to connect one to my ADSL modem (non WiFi) and one to my router (LinkSys WRT54GL router). And I see I have to put in a PCI-E NIC, not a common-or-garden PCI. Why can't they leav

Re: [CentOS] My new server

2011-03-26 Thread Timothy Murphy
Rudi Ahlers wrote: >> I bought a very cheap server yesterday - >> an HP ProLiant micro server for 160 euro >> >> But I was surprised when I opened the box >> to find it didn't come with keyboard or mouse, >> and doesn't have the old keyboard/mouse sockets, >> but requires USB versions. > Many ser

Re: [CentOS] My new server

2011-03-26 Thread Ray Van Dolson
On Sat, Mar 26, 2011 at 09:46:59AM -0700, John R Pierce wrote: > On 03/26/11 9:43 AM, Benjamin Donnachie wrote: > > On 26 Mar 2011, at 15:40, John R Pierce wrote: > > > >> while I'd agree with the rest of your assessments, on servers 1 nic is > >> NOT that common, > > Neither are servers for €160!

Re: [CentOS] My new server

2011-03-26 Thread Rudi Ahlers
On Sat, Mar 26, 2011 at 6:46 PM, John R Pierce wrote: > On 03/26/11 9:43 AM, Benjamin Donnachie wrote: >> On 26 Mar 2011, at 15:40, John R Pierce  wrote: >> >>> while I'd agree with the rest of your assessments, on servers 1 nic is >>> NOT that common, >> Neither are servers for €160!  At that pri

Re: [CentOS] My new server

2011-03-26 Thread John R Pierce
On 03/26/11 9:43 AM, Benjamin Donnachie wrote: > On 26 Mar 2011, at 15:40, John R Pierce wrote: > >> while I'd agree with the rest of your assessments, on servers 1 nic is >> NOT that common, > Neither are servers for €160! At that price I would expect to buy > another card or just use vlans! ye

Re: [CentOS] My new server

2011-03-26 Thread Benjamin Donnachie
On 26 Mar 2011, at 15:40, John R Pierce wrote: > while I'd agree with the rest of your assessments, on servers 1 nic is > NOT that common, Neither are servers for €160! At that price I would expect to buy another card or just use vlans! Ben Sent from my iPhone

Re: [CentOS] My new server

2011-03-26 Thread Rudi Ahlers
On Sat, Mar 26, 2011 at 5:39 PM, John R Pierce wrote: > On 03/26/11 5:47 AM, Peter Larsen wrote: >> One nic is also quite common. > > while I'd agree with the rest of your assessments, on servers 1 nic is > NOT that common, 2 or 4 built in nics is far more common. > > Yes, on the larger servers.

Re: [CentOS] My new server

2011-03-26 Thread Lucian
On Sat, Mar 26, 2011 at 3:39 PM, John R Pierce wrote: > On 03/26/11 5:47 AM, Peter Larsen wrote: >> One nic is also quite common. > > while I'd agree with the rest of your assessments, on servers 1 nic is > NOT that common, 2 or 4 built in nics is far more common. +1 _

Re: [CentOS] My new server

2011-03-26 Thread John R Pierce
On 03/26/11 5:47 AM, Peter Larsen wrote: > One nic is also quite common. while I'd agree with the rest of your assessments, on servers 1 nic is NOT that common, 2 or 4 built in nics is far more common. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://

Re: [CentOS] Mounting an external USB drive

2011-03-26 Thread Todd Cary
On 3/26/2011 6:46 AM, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > On Sat, Mar 26, 2011 at 9:15 AM, Tom Diehl wrote: >> On Fri, 25 Mar 2011, Todd Cary wrote: >> >>> With Centos 5.5, my external USB drive appears to self mount in >>> that the icon appears on the desktop and when I double click on >>> it, the files a

Re: [CentOS] Mounting an external USB drive

2011-03-26 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Sat, Mar 26, 2011 at 9:15 AM, Tom Diehl wrote: > On Fri, 25 Mar 2011, Todd Cary wrote: > >> With Centos 5.5, my external USB drive appears to self mount in >> that the icon appears on the desktop and when I double click on >> it, the files are there.  However, I recall that I need to make >> an

Re: [CentOS] Mounting an external USB drive

2011-03-26 Thread Tom Diehl
On Fri, 25 Mar 2011, Todd Cary wrote: > With Centos 5.5, my external USB drive appears to self mount in > that the icon appears on the desktop and when I double click on > it, the files are there. However, I recall that I need to make > an entry in the fstab as well as some other changes. > > Whe

Re: [CentOS] My new server

2011-03-26 Thread Rudi Ahlers
On Sat, Mar 26, 2011 at 2:39 PM, Timothy Murphy wrote: > I bought a very cheap server yesterday - > an HP ProLiant micro server for 160 euro > (280 euro with 120 cashback, for some reason). > > But I was surprised when I opened the box > to find it didn't come with keyboard or mouse, > and doesn't

Re: [CentOS] My new server

2011-03-26 Thread Peter Larsen
You get what you pay for. Yes ps/2 plugs are a thing of the past. Servers have for the last 5 or so years been usb only. Usually with a usb in the front as well as in the back. There are usb/ps2 converters but usb/mouse is very cheap. Your adapter would most likely cost the same or more. Lack o

[CentOS] My new server

2011-03-26 Thread Timothy Murphy
I bought a very cheap server yesterday - an HP ProLiant micro server for 160 euro (280 euro with 120 cashback, for some reason). But I was surprised when I opened the box to find it didn't come with keyboard or mouse, and doesn't have the old keyboard/mouse sockets, but requires USB versions. Is t

Re: [CentOS] Verify tomcat config

2011-03-26 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Sat, Mar 26, 2011 at 6:48 AM, wrote: > >  I'm going to retire an old RHEL3 server and move the services to CentOS5. >  In particular, the web server is giving me a headache. On the old box, > there's >  a hacked-up httpd/mod_jk/tomcat setup, and CentOS is perfect for the new >  box because th

[CentOS] Verify tomcat config

2011-03-26 Thread lhecking
I'm going to retire an old RHEL3 server and move the services to CentOS5. In particular, the web server is giving me a headache. On the old box, there's a hacked-up httpd/mod_jk/tomcat setup, and CentOS is perfect for the new box because the required components are included and the whole setup