Re: [CentOS] 40TB File System Recommendations

On 4/13/11, Brandon Ooi wrote: > centos 5 can expand raid 0/1/5. just not 6. 10 is just layered 0/1 so you > can expand it. > centos 6 will be able to expand raid6 as it was a feature in 2.6.20 or > something. This is where I'm getting confused. I had been reading up on mdadm, torn between using

Re: [CentOS] SNMP monitoring options

Am 13.04.2011 04:33, schrieb Keith Keller: > On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 11:23:19AM +1000, Bob Hepple wrote: >> >> We looked at a number of monitoring systems before closing on >> (community version) Opsview. The main other contender we looked at was >> zenoss - I have to admit I was biased due to prev

Re: [CentOS] changing column widths in "top"?

> Htop looks interesting and I might try it on one of our other servers but > on this one I only see the first 60 CPUs. I strongly recommend http://nmon.sourceforge.net/pmwiki.php for such things. I have put my current src rpm here http://www.invoca.ch/pub/packages/nmon/ Simon > --Russell > >> -

Re: [CentOS] yum update - missing dependencies

On 13/04/11 05:22, Dvorkin, Asya wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I just upgraded to 5.6 and keep on getting the following error message: > > [root@rwjafs1 ~]# yum update > Loaded plugins: fastestmirror, priorities > Loading mirror speeds from cached hostfile > * base: centos.mirror.nac.net > * extras

Re: [CentOS] 40TB File System Recommendations

On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 9:35 PM, Emmanuel Noobadmin wrote: > > Off-topic, but when you say add more disks, do you mean for the > purpose of replacing failing disks or for expanding the array? I'm > curious because on initial reading I read it to mean expanding the > storage capacity of the array b

Re: [CentOS] 40TB File System Recommendations

On 4/12/11, Rudi Ahlers wrote: > But, our RAID10 is setup as a stripe of mirrors, i.e. sda1 & sdb1 -> md0, > sdc1 + sdd1 ->md1, then sde1 + sdf1 ->md2, and finally md0 + md1 + md2 are > stripped. The advantage of this is that we can add more disks to the whole > RAID set with no downtime Off-topi

[CentOS] yum update - missing dependencies

Hi everyone, I just upgraded to 5.6 and keep on getting the following error message: [root@rwjafs1 ~]# yum update Loaded plugins: fastestmirror, priorities Loading mirror speeds from cached hostfile * base: centos.mirror.nac.net * extras: mirror.batblue.com * updates: mirror.atlanticmetro.net

Re: [CentOS] Dag's RHEL Rebuild Project.

On Apr 12, 2011, at 11:00 PM, Christopher Chan wrote: > On Wednesday, April 13, 2011 10:34 AM, Ross Walker wrote: >> On Apr 12, 2011, at 3:55 PM, Dag Wieers wrote: >> >>> On Tue, 12 Apr 2011, Keith Keller wrote: >>> On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 07:59:56PM +0100, Ian Murray wrote: >

Re: [CentOS] SNMP monitoring options

On Tue, 12 Apr 2011 19:33:34 -0700 Keith Keller wrote: > On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 11:23:19AM +1000, Bob Hepple wrote: > > > > We looked at a number of monitoring systems before closing on > > (community version) Opsview. The main other contender we looked at was > > zenoss - I have to admit I was

Re: [CentOS] Dag's RHEL Rebuild Project.

On Wednesday, April 13, 2011 10:34 AM, Ross Walker wrote: > On Apr 12, 2011, at 3:55 PM, Dag Wieers wrote: > >> On Tue, 12 Apr 2011, Keith Keller wrote: >> >>> On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 07:59:56PM +0100, Ian Murray wrote: >>> Erm, the dev(s) *suggested* using an alternative distribution. >>> >>

Re: [CentOS] 40TB File System Recommendations

On Apr 12, 2011, at 8:53 AM, Rudi Ahlers wrote: > On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 2:47 PM, Marian Marinov wrote: >> >> Steve, >> I'm managing machines with 30TB of storage for more then two years. And with >> good reporting and reaction we have never had to run fsck. >> >> However I'm sure that if you

Re: [CentOS] Dag's RHEL Rebuild Project.

On Apr 12, 2011, at 3:55 PM, Dag Wieers wrote: > On Tue, 12 Apr 2011, Keith Keller wrote: > >> On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 07:59:56PM +0100, Ian Murray wrote: >> >>> Erm, the dev(s) *suggested* using an alternative distribution. >> >> The developers never suggested using this list to raise funds f

Re: [CentOS] SNMP monitoring options

On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 11:23:19AM +1000, Bob Hepple wrote: > > We looked at a number of monitoring systems before closing on > (community version) Opsview. The main other contender we looked at was > zenoss - I have to admit I was biased due to previous use of and liking > of nagios. So, if I al

Re: [CentOS] audio recorder compatibility

On 04/12/11 3:12 PM, ken wrote: > I'm shopping for a small/tiny audio recorder, the kind for recording in > a class, interviews, etc... my wife has a little Olympus voice recorder, it supports recording in several qualities of .mp3 files, but there's lots of software on lunix that will play .w

Re: [CentOS] audio recorder compatibility

Hi Ken, If yer stuck with WMA, mplayer will convert to WAV format using `mplayer filename.WMA -ao pcm:waveheader` which will create a fixed name file, audiodump.wav which then can be encoded MP3 using lame or other encoder. My wife had a problem with her recorder in that it *only* created WMA. A b

Re: [CentOS] SNMP monitoring options

On Apr 12, 2011, at 6:42 PM, Les Mikesell wrote: > On 4/12/11 2:53 PM, aurfal...@gmail.com wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> Been using Cacti for monitoring various things like, system disk/mem/ >> proc, network usage, router usage etc... >> >> While its been fun, the graphs are just unruly. >> >> Was look

Re: [CentOS] SNMP monitoring options

On 4/12/11 2:53 PM, aurfal...@gmail.com wrote: > Hi all, > > Been using Cacti for monitoring various things like, system disk/mem/ > proc, network usage, router usage etc... > > While its been fun, the graphs are just unruly. > > Was looking an OpsView (the free version), wondering what your > expe

Re: [CentOS] SNMP monitoring options

On Apr 12, 2011, at 6:23 PM, Bob Hepple wrote: > On Tue, 12 Apr 2011 12:53:41 -0700 > aurfal...@gmail.com wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> Been using Cacti for monitoring various things like, system disk/mem/ >> proc, network usage, router usage etc... >> >> While its been fun, the graphs are just unruly

Re: [CentOS] SNMP monitoring options

On Tue, 12 Apr 2011 12:53:41 -0700 aurfal...@gmail.com wrote: > Hi all, > > Been using Cacti for monitoring various things like, system disk/mem/ > proc, network usage, router usage etc... > > While its been fun, the graphs are just unruly. > > Was looking an OpsView (the free version), wonder

Re: [CentOS] [Thank you!] IMHO only RHEL is better than CentOS...

On Apr 12, 2011, at 6:09 PM, Christopher J. Buckley wrote: > On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 21:43, Cal Webster wrote: >> Also, the upstream vendor provides no economical >> way to mirror RHEL updates on isolated networks - Satellite is out of >> the question. RHEL 4 updates must be painstakingly retrie

Re: [CentOS] [Thank you!] IMHO only RHEL is better than CentOS...

On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 21:43, Cal Webster wrote: > Also, the upstream vendor provides no economical > way to mirror RHEL updates on isolated networks - Satellite is out of > the question. RHEL 4 updates must be painstakingly retrieved manually, > one at a time, on the "Internet machine" before tr

Re: [CentOS] audio recorder compatibility

On Tue, 2011-04-12 at 18:12 -0400, ken wrote: > I'm shopping for a small/tiny audio recorder, the kind for recording in > a class, interviews, etc... not really music, just voice. Per usual, a > lot of these write their audio files in some Windows format, e.g., WMA. > As a confirmed Linux guy, I'

Re: [CentOS] 40TB File System Recommendations

On Tuesday, April 12, 2011 10:36 PM, John Jasen wrote: > On 04/12/2011 10:21 AM, Boris Epstein wrote: >> On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 3:36 AM, Alain Péan >> > > wrote: > > > > I would chime in with a dis-commendation for XFS. At my previous > employer, two cases

Re: [CentOS] Dag's RHEL Rebuild Project.

On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 05:13:06PM -0500, Johnny Hughes wrote: > On 04/12/2011 02:55 PM, Dag Wieers wrote: > > On Tue, 12 Apr 2011, Keith Keller wrote: > > > >> On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 07:59:56PM +0100, Ian Murray wrote: > >> > >>> Erm, the dev(s) *suggested* using an alternative distribution. > >

Re: [CentOS] virtmanager and selinux -- solved

On Tue, 12 Apr 2011, Negative wrote: > On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 7:17 PM, Negative wrote: > >> I built a new VM under KVM today and I've been getting a slew of message >> that selinux is blocking virtmanager from reading the new image. This >> doesn't seem to be doing any harm, but I wanted to chec

Re: [CentOS] virtmanager and selinux -- solved

On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 7:17 PM, Negative wrote: > I built a new VM under KVM today and I've been getting a slew of message > that selinux is blocking virtmanager from reading the new image. This > doesn't seem to be doing any harm, but I wanted to check whether I should > simply run chcon on the

Re: [CentOS] How can a company help, officially?

On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 6:39 PM, R P Herrold wrote: > On Tue, 12 Apr 2011, Brian Mathis wrote: > >> packages, etc... but how?  From the tone of the messages it seems like >> it was either via IRC or personal email, which effectively counts for >> zero in this context as we are talking about things

[CentOS] virtmanager and selinux

I built a new VM under KVM today and I've been getting a slew of message that selinux is blocking virtmanager from reading the new image. This doesn't seem to be doing any harm, but I wanted to check whether I should simply run chcon on the image (if I can). Virtmanager show up as usr_t, as do my

Re: [CentOS] How can a company help, officially?

On Tue, 12 Apr 2011, R P Herrold wrote: > On Tue, 12 Apr 2011, Dag Wieers wrote: > >> I also don't see what the size of my (past) contributions to CentOS has to >> do with this whole discussion. I would much rather discuss why the QA >> process needs to be closed, why you think opening up the proc

Re: [CentOS] [Thank you!] IMHO only RHEL is better than CentOS...

Cal Webster wrote: > On Tue, 2011-04-12 at 14:08 -0700, aurfal...@gmail.com wrote: > Thanks for letting me know someone read it Aurf. If I've helped > encourage even one I'm happy. I also read it, and even it's 01h after too long day, now I found it interesting to read and fine praise for CentOS

Re: [CentOS] 40TB File System Recommendations

>The WD RE4-GP is a so-called ''green'' disk that's suitable for RAID >arrays. It's marketed and priced as an enterprise drive. I've had good luck with green, 5400 rpm Samsung drives. They don't spin down automatically and work fine in my raid 5 arrays. The cost is about $80 for 2TB drives. I al

Re: [CentOS] 40TB File System Recommendations

> Where can I get an enterprise-class 2TB drive for $100?  Commodity SATA isn't > enterprise-class.  SAS is; FC is, SCSI is. A 500GB FC drive with EMC firmware > new is going to set you back ten times that, at least.  What's youre data > worth indeed, putting it on commodity disk :-) I can

Re: [CentOS] How can a company help, officially?

On 04/13/2011 12:40 AM, R P Herrold wrote: > On Tue, 12 Apr 2011, Dag Wieers wrote: >> I guess that's what Johnny has been saying all along. There is no wish to >> change how the project is taking care of things. > > Seems to me that KB's solicitation of testing cases, and the > vast silence in r

[CentOS] How can a company help, officially?

On Tue, 12 Apr 2011, Dag Wieers wrote: > I also don't see what the size of my (past) contributions to CentOS has to > do with this whole discussion. I would much rather discuss why the QA > process needs to be closed, why you think opening up the process will not > help fix issues faster (while ob

[CentOS] How can a company help, officially?

On Tue, 12 Apr 2011, Brian Mathis wrote: > packages, etc... but how? From the tone of the messages it seems like > it was either via IRC or personal email, which effectively counts for > zero in this context as we are talking about things that take place in > public. Those things need to go into

[CentOS] problems in centos-5.6

hi, i try to collect the problems, bugs and 'strange' things in current centos-5.6 release: os/i386 these shouldn't have to be there (they are from older release): kmod-gfs-0.1.34-12 kmod-gfs-PAE-0.1.34-12 kmod-gfs-xen-0.1.34-12 centos-release-notes-5.5-0 updates/i386 these shouldn't have to be t

[CentOS] 5.5->5.6 upgrade hiccough

I spoke a bit too soon about the upgrade being flawless. It turns out that one subsystem started failing after the upgrade, although it is not an out-of-the-box one. I've included the description here in case someone runs into something similarly weird (especially with scripts calling MySQL?) and

Re: [CentOS] 40TB File System Recommendations

On Apr 12, 2011, at 3:02 PM, Keith Keller wrote: > On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 02:01:42PM -0700, aurfal...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> The cheapies are so called green as they spin down often which is not >> what you want in a RAID setup. > > The WD RE4-GP is a so-called ''green'' disk that's suitable for

Re: [CentOS] Dag's RHEL Rebuild Project.

On 04/12/2011 02:55 PM, Dag Wieers wrote: > On Tue, 12 Apr 2011, Keith Keller wrote: > >> On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 07:59:56PM +0100, Ian Murray wrote: >> >>> Erm, the dev(s) *suggested* using an alternative distribution. >> >> The developers never suggested using this list to raise funds for any >>

[CentOS] audio recorder compatibility

I'm shopping for a small/tiny audio recorder, the kind for recording in a class, interviews, etc... not really music, just voice. Per usual, a lot of these write their audio files in some Windows format, e.g., WMA. As a confirmed Linux guy, I'd want to offload the audio files in some format that

Re: [CentOS] How can a company help, officially?

On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 4:07 PM, Karanbir Singh wrote: > On 04/12/2011 07:53 PM, Radu Gheorghiu wrote: >> 2. Why do you always have to end with "you must be clueless", "you must >> be new to CentOS", "you must be new to Open Source". >> How can you tell? You can tell all this just by reading one e

Re: [CentOS] 40TB File System Recommendations

On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 02:01:42PM -0700, aurfal...@gmail.com wrote: > > The cheapies are so called green as they spin down often which is not > what you want in a RAID setup. The WD RE4-GP is a so-called ''green'' disk that's suitable for RAID arrays. It's marketed and priced as an enterprise

Re: [CentOS] changing column widths in "top"?

Htop looks interesting and I might try it on one of our other servers but on this one I only see the first 60 CPUs. --Russell > -Original Message- > From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On > Behalf Of Lucian > Sent: Wednesday, 13 April 2011 9:41 a.m. > To: C

Re: [CentOS] [Thank you!] IMHO only RHEL is better than CentOS...

On Tue, 2011-04-12 at 14:08 -0700, aurfal...@gmail.com wrote: > On Apr 12, 2011, at 1:43 PM, Cal Webster wrote: > > > ...based on my experience, for use in all non-certified enterprise > > operations (large and small) on general-purpose computers. > > Wow, what a great post. > > Thanks Carl, ver

Re: [CentOS] How can a company help, officially?

On 12/04/11 17:04, Karanbir Singh wrote: > Hi Ned, > > On 04/11/2011 10:02 PM, Ned Slider wrote: >>> each release is more complex than the last. The web of dependency grows, >>> so the reverse-engineering takes longer and longer. >> This is just complete nonsense. You clearly have no understanding

Re: [CentOS] changing column widths in "top"?

On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 10:35 PM, Smithies, Russell wrote: > Thought as much :-( > Atop seems to display much better, currently running at 12728% CPU :-) Give htop a try as well; it's in EPEL AFAIK. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists

Re: [CentOS] How can a company help, officially?

On Tue, 12 Apr 2011, Karanbir Singh wrote: > On 04/11/2011 10:27 PM, Brunner, Brian T. wrote: > >> If it were me, wiser you are to listen to frogs and crickets. >> Dag is saying "I want to help but your system is closed". > > Just to be clear, Dag isnt saying that at all. What he is saying is that

Re: [CentOS] changing column widths in "top"?

Thought as much :-( Atop seems to display much better, currently running at 12728% CPU :-) --Russell > -Original Message- > From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On > Behalf Of John R Pierce > Sent: Wednesday, 13 April 2011 9:27 a.m. > To: centos@centos.org >

Re: [CentOS] changing column widths in "top"?

On 04/12/11 2:10 PM, Smithies, Russell wrote: > Not specifically a Centos question but does anyone know how to change the > column widths in "top"? > I'm in the unique position where I need to be able to see more than .0% > CPU :-) probably have to hack the source :-/ _

Re: [CentOS] How can a company help, officially?

On Tue, 12 Apr 2011, Karanbir Singh wrote: > Also, if you think that just having something out there that people can > randomly drive-by and fix is going to work, you must be either really > clueless or just new to open source. In Open Source people scratch personal itches. That itch may as well

[CentOS] changing column widths in "top"?

Not specifically a Centos question but does anyone know how to change the column widths in "top"? I'm in the unique position where I need to be able to see more than .0% CPU :-) Thanx, Russell === Attention: The information

Re: [CentOS] [Thank you!] IMHO only RHEL is better than CentOS...

On Apr 12, 2011, at 1:43 PM, Cal Webster wrote: > ...based on my experience, for use in all non-certified enterprise > operations (large and small) on general-purpose computers. Wow, what a great post. Thanks Carl, very cool. Hope you aren't retiring any time soon, I see too many barnies in c

Re: [CentOS] 40TB File System Recommendations

On Apr 12, 2011, at 1:54 PM, Lamar Owen wrote: > On Tuesday, April 12, 2011 02:51:45 PM John R Pierce wrote: >> On 04/12/11 6:02 AM, Marian Marinov wrote: >>> >>> Yes... but with such RAID10 solution you get only half of the disk >>> space... so >>> from 10 2TB drives you get only 10TB instead o

Re: [CentOS] 40TB File System Recommendations

On Tuesday, April 12, 2011 02:51:45 PM John R Pierce wrote: > On 04/12/11 6:02 AM, Marian Marinov wrote: > > > > Yes... but with such RAID10 solution you get only half of the disk space... > > so > > from 10 2TB drives you get only 10TB instead of 16TB with RAID6. > > those disks are $100 each.

[CentOS] [Thank you!] IMHO only RHEL is better than CentOS...

...based on my experience, for use in all non-certified enterprise operations (large and small) on general-purpose computers. RHEL is, of course, the better alternative when you require the upstream vendor's certified platform, certified and tested integrated solutions, industry-leading support, o

Re: [CentOS] Kerberos/LDAP authentication no more working in 5.6 ?

Le 12/04/2011 22:03, John Hodrien a écrit : > On Tue, 12 Apr 2011, Alain Péan wrote: > >> Indeed, nothing fails now. I want my users to authenticate against >> Active directory, and it works, and I would like them to be able to use >> their kerberos credentials, if they need, to access domain resso

Re: [CentOS] How can a company help, officially?

Karanbir Singh wrote on 04/12/2011 04:07 PM: > suspect this is, at least in some part, down to the fact that we don't > have a wiki or a web page that could perhaps accumulate some/much of > whats been said already and point people at that - so if they are new to > the process, they have a single r

Re: [CentOS] How can a company help, officially?

On 04/12/2011 07:53 PM, Radu Gheorghiu wrote: > 2. Why do you always have to end with "you must be clueless", "you must > be new to CentOS", "you must be new to Open Source". > How can you tell? You can tell all this just by reading one email? thats a good question, I was asking myself the same th

Re: [CentOS] Kerberos/LDAP authentication no more working in 5.6 ?

On Tue, 12 Apr 2011, Alain Péan wrote: Indeed, nothing fails now. I want my users to authenticate against Active directory, and it works, and I would like them to be able to use their kerberos credentials, if they need, to access domain ressources, as shares. But I have still to see a problem th

Re: [CentOS] Dag's RHEL Rebuild Project.

On Tue, 12 Apr 2011, Keith Keller wrote: > On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 07:59:56PM +0100, Ian Murray wrote: > >> Erm, the dev(s) *suggested* using an alternative distribution. > > The developers never suggested using this list to raise funds for any > alternative distributions. Neither am I. Someone i

Re: [CentOS] Dag's RHEL Rebuild Project.

On Tue, 12 Apr 2011, aurfal...@gmail.com wrote: > Plus, I think it was the timing of the post regarding DAGs RHEL like > project. There is no DAG RHEL like project. It's a tweet. If I would ever start a DAG RHEL like project, I wouldn't announce it over twitter :-) -- -- dag wieers, d...@wiee

[CentOS] SNMP monitoring options

Hi all, Been using Cacti for monitoring various things like, system disk/mem/ proc, network usage, router usage etc... While its been fun, the graphs are just unruly. Was looking an OpsView (the free version), wondering what your experience with this type of trend/heuristic analysis has been

Re: [CentOS] How can a company help, officially?

On 4/12/2011 2:23 PM, John R Pierce wrote: > On 04/12/11 12:10 PM, Les Mikesell wrote: >> Or thousands of people can't make the Linux kernel better or faster than >> Linus could have done by himself? > > imho, the linux kernel is a freekin mess of conflicted crap, ever > changing. 50 different IO

Re: [CentOS] Dag's RHEL Rebuild Project.

On Apr 12, 2011, at 12:25 PM, Ian Murray wrote: > - Original Message >> From: "aurfal...@gmail.com" >> To: CentOS mailing list >> Sent: Tue, 12 April, 2011 20:10:14 >> Subject: Re: [CentOS] Dag's RHEL Rebuild Project. >> >> On Apr 12, 2011, at 11:59 AM, Ian Murray wrote: >> >>> >>>

Re: [CentOS] How can a company help, officially?

On 4/12/2011 1:33 PM, R P Herrold wrote: > >>> off the top of my head, here is the meta-code > >> Would you really repeat those steps by hand if someone gave >> you a new server to add to what you use? Maybe things are >> worse than I'd guessed. > > You did not read the commentary ... I did - and

Re: [CentOS] Dag's RHEL Rebuild Project.

- Original Message > From: "aurfal...@gmail.com" > To: CentOS mailing list > Sent: Tue, 12 April, 2011 20:10:14 > Subject: Re: [CentOS] Dag's RHEL Rebuild Project. > > On Apr 12, 2011, at 11:59 AM, Ian Murray wrote: > > > > > > >> This is really disrespectful to talk about on her

Re: [CentOS] How can a company help, officially?

On 04/12/11 12:10 PM, Les Mikesell wrote: > Or thousands of people can't make the Linux kernel better or faster than > Linus could have done by himself? imho, the linux kernel is a freekin mess of conflicted crap, ever changing. 50 different IO schedulers yet none of them can get write barriers

Re: [CentOS] Dag's RHEL Rebuild Project.

On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 07:59:56PM +0100, Ian Murray wrote: > > Erm, the dev(s) *suggested* using an alternative distribution. The developers never suggested using this list to raise funds for any alternative distributions. --keith -- kkel...@wombat.san-francisco.ca.us pgpGGRH6u04sy.pgp De

Re: [CentOS] How can a company help, officially?

On 4/12/2011 1:59 PM, John R Pierce wrote: > On 04/12/11 4:31 AM, Radu Gheorghiu wrote: >> There can be 100 people trying to fix a >> bug, rather than 1 person who takes "ownership" > > 100 cooks can't boil a pot any faster wait, no, thats 'too many > cooks spoil the soup. > > ok, how about...

Re: [CentOS] Got no login screen with the new 5.6 kernel

Phil Schaffner wrote: > Stanley A. Klein wrote on 04/12/2011 01:55 PM: >> I did the 5.6 update yesterday. When I started the machine today, I did >> not get a login screen -- it was just a blank screen with no cursor or >> anything. I shut down, restarted and when grub came up selected the >> pre

Re: [CentOS] Dag's RHEL Rebuild Project.

On Apr 12, 2011, at 11:59 AM, Ian Murray wrote: > > >> This is really disrespectful to talk about on here. The devs spent >> a ton of >> their spare time to develop centos, last thing you should talk >> about is >> starting competing projects... >> >> Peter. > > I really don't get this list.

Re: [CentOS] Dag's RHEL Rebuild Project.

> This is really disrespectful to talk about on here. The devs spent a ton of > their spare time to develop centos, last thing you should talk about is > starting competing projects... > > Peter. Erm, the dev(s) *suggested* using an alternative distribution. The stated aims are different,

Re: [CentOS] How can a company help, officially?

On 04/12/11 4:31 AM, Radu Gheorghiu wrote: > There can be 100 people trying to fix a > bug, rather than 1 person who takes "ownership" 100 cooks can't boil a pot any faster wait, no, thats 'too many cooks spoil the soup. ok, how about... 100 woman can't make a baby any faster. anyways.

Re: [CentOS] How can a company help, officially?

On 04/12/2011 08:00 PM, Karanbir Singh wrote: > On 04/12/2011 05:19 PM, Brian Mathis wrote: >>> Fixing the timing of release is something we get from getting the >>> process into the right place. And not the other way around. There seems >> NO ONE IS SAYING TO PUSH CRAP OUT THE DOOR JUST FOR THE SA

Re: [CentOS] 40TB File System Recommendations

On 04/12/11 6:02 AM, Marian Marinov wrote: > > Yes... but with such RAID10 solution you get only half of the disk space... so > from 10 2TB drives you get only 10TB instead of 16TB with RAID6. those disks are $100 each. whats your data worth? The rebuild time goes way up as the number of drives

[CentOS] How can a company help, officially?

On Tue, 12 Apr 2011, Les Mikesell wrote: > On 4/12/2011 12:51 PM, R P Herrold wrote: >> >> off the top of my head, here is the meta-code > Would you really repeat those steps by hand if someone gave > you a new server to add to what you use? Maybe things are > worse than I'd guessed. You did

Re: [CentOS] GUI Software Raid Monitor Software

On 4/12/2011 12:29 AM, jvalido...@juanyjosefina.com wrote: > I'm a Windows and an old guy, I don't really know what I mean. Thanks. I thought the default setup that you get when you install on raid would configure it to send email to root about problems (that is, you get an entry for 'MAILADDR r

Re: [CentOS] Got no login screen with the new 5.6 kernel

Stanley A. Klein wrote on 04/12/2011 01:55 PM: > I did the 5.6 update yesterday. When I started the machine today, I did > not get a login screen -- it was just a blank screen with no cursor or > anything. I shut down, restarted and when grub came up selected the > previous kernel. The system ca

Re: [CentOS] How can a company help, officially?

On 4/12/2011 12:51 PM, R P Herrold wrote: > > off the top of my head, here is the meta-code Would you really repeat those steps by hand if someone gave you a new server to add to what you use? Maybe things are worse than I'd guessed. -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___

[CentOS] Got no login screen with the new 5.6 kernel

I did the 5.6 update yesterday. When I started the machine today, I did not get a login screen -- it was just a blank screen with no cursor or anything. I shut down, restarted and when grub came up selected the previous kernel. The system came up as usual, presented a login screen, and is workin

Re: [CentOS] How can a company help, officially?

On 4/12/2011 12:21 PM, Karanbir Singh wrote: > On 04/12/2011 06:14 PM, Les Mikesell wrote: >> I don't understand. That has been mentioned as the slow/hard part of the >> process. What is it that really takes months if not that? >> > > you did read my reply to this question of yours in a different p

[CentOS] How can a company help, officially?

On Tue, 12 Apr 2011, Les Mikesell wrote: > But Johnny's postings seem pretty insistent on never releasing the > actual scripts in a form that can be used elsewhere or by anyone outside > the project, so maybe a more productive approach would be some way of oh horse puckey, troll -- it is just 'sh

Re: [CentOS] 40TB File System Recommendations

On Apr 12, 2011, at 12:31 AM, John R Pierce wrote: > On 04/12/11 12:23 AM, Matthew Feinberg wrote: >> Hello All >> >> I have a brand spanking new 40TB Hardware Raid6 array > > never mind file systems... is that one raid set?do you have any > idea > how LONG rebuilding that is going to take w

Re: [CentOS] How can a company help, officially?

On 4/12/2011 12:00 PM, Karanbir Singh wrote: > On 04/12/2011 05:19 PM, Brian Mathis wrote: >>> Fixing the timing of release is something we get from getting the >>> process into the right place. And not the other way around. There seems >> NO ONE IS SAYING TO PUSH CRAP OUT THE DOOR JUST FOR THE SAK

Re: [CentOS] How can a company help, officially?

On 04/12/2011 06:14 PM, Les Mikesell wrote: > I don't understand. That has been mentioned as the slow/hard part of the > process. What is it that really takes months if not that? > you did read my reply to this question of yours in a different part of the thread right ? - KB

Re: [CentOS] How can a company help, officially?

On 4/12/2011 12:04 PM, Karanbir Singh wrote: > >>> If compile/test servers are an issue, can we do for CentOS what we do for distributed Prime number/SETI computation serving? >>> >>> Not as far as I know, ensuring environ sanity across something of this >>> nature would be a massive issu

Re: [CentOS] How can a company help, officially?

On 04/12/2011 06:02 PM, Les Mikesell wrote: > On 4/12/2011 10:55 AM, Karanbir Singh wrote: >> >>> If compile/test servers are an issue, can we do for CentOS what we do >>> for distributed Prime number/SETI computation serving? >> >> Not as far as I know, ensuring environ sanity across something of

Re: [CentOS] How can a company help, officially?

On 4/12/2011 10:55 AM, Karanbir Singh wrote: > >> If compile/test servers are an issue, can we do for CentOS what we do >> for distributed Prime number/SETI computation serving? > > Not as far as I know, ensuring environ sanity across something of this > nature would be a massive issue. Not easy to

Re: [CentOS] How can a company help, officially?

On 04/11/2011 10:27 PM, Brunner, Brian T. wrote: > If it were me, wiser you are to listen to frogs and crickets. > Dag is saying "I want to help but your system is closed". Just to be clear, Dag isnt saying that at all. What he is saying is that 'I dont want to help by actually doing anything, bu

Re: [CentOS] How can a company help, officially?

On 04/12/2011 05:19 PM, Brian Mathis wrote: >> Fixing the timing of release is something we get from getting the >> process into the right place. And not the other way around. There seems > NO ONE IS SAYING TO PUSH CRAP OUT THE DOOR JUST FOR THE SAKE OF > GETTING IT OUT. EVERYONE IS SAYING TO OPEN

Re: [CentOS] Kerberos/LDAP authentication no more working in 5.6 ?

Le 12/04/2011 18:29, John Hodrien a écrit : > On Tue, 12 Apr 2011, Alain Péan wrote: > >> In fact, I solved the problem using the authconfig command, but I wonder >> if it is really correct, as I mixed kerberos and ldap. Here is the >> authconfig command for my test domain : > > Using kerberos and

Re: [CentOS] 40TB File System Recommendations

On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 10:36:39AM -0400, John Jasen wrote: > On 04/12/2011 10:21 AM, Boris Epstein wrote: > > On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 3:36 AM, Alain Péan > > > > wrote: > > > > I would chime in with a dis-commendation for XFS. At my previous > employer,

Re: [CentOS] Kerberos/LDAP authentication no more working in 5.6 ?

On Tue, 12 Apr 2011, Alain Péan wrote: In fact, I solved the problem using the authconfig command, but I wonder if it is really correct, as I mixed kerberos and ldap. Here is the authconfig command for my test domain : Using kerberos and ldap is a perfectly reasonable thing to want to do, but

Re: [CentOS] 40TB File System Recommendations

On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 06:00:57PM +0300, Marian Marinov wrote: > > Can someone(who actually knows) share with us, what is the state of > xfs-utils, > how stable and usable are they for recovery of broken XFS filesystems? I have done an XFS repair once or twice on a real filesystem (~4TB) in a

Re: [CentOS] How can a company help, officially?

On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 11:53 AM, Karanbir Singh wrote: > On 04/12/2011 04:01 PM, Les Mikesell wrote: >>> The process is not the product. >> Exactly, and I don't see anyone complaining about the product - just >> wondering if some number of months could be shaved off the process. > > Fixing the ti

Re: [CentOS] Kerberos/LDAP authentication no more working in 5.6 ?

Le 12/04/2011 16:28, John Hodrien a écrit : > On Tue, 12 Apr 2011, Alain Péan wrote: > >> Sorrry, little error with the output of klit -ke, because I am testing >> on a test AD domain at this moment. On the first machine, output is : >> # klist -ke >> Keytab name: FILE:/etc/krb5.keytab >> KVNO Prin

Re: [CentOS] How can a company help, officially?

On 04/12/2011 04:58 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: >> Not as far as I know, ensuring environ sanity across something of this >> nature would be a massive issue. Not easy to solve, unless the environ >> as a whole is shipped out. > > Actually, that is what's needed, perhaps: a repeatable environment, n

Re: [CentOS] How can a company help, officially?

Hi Ned, On 04/11/2011 10:02 PM, Ned Slider wrote: >> each release is more complex than the last. The web of dependency grows, >> so the reverse-engineering takes longer and longer. > This is just complete nonsense. You clearly have no understanding of the > processes involved in rebuilding RHEL. C

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Re: [CentOS] How can a company help, officially?

Karanbir Singh wrote: > On 04/12/2011 04:08 PM, Brunner, Brian T. wrote: >> centos-boun...@centos.org wrote: >> If compile/test servers are an issue, can we do for CentOS what we do >> for distributed Prime number/SETI computation serving? > > Not as far as I know, ensuring environ sanity across so

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