On 03/08/12 11:44 PM, Sorin Srbu wrote:
> I know there might be some negative performance issues with certain
> applications, but would you notice it in day-to-day use?
if you're using the server for pure floating point compute, don't run
more threads than you have actual cores. high concurrenc
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Of fred smith
Sent: den 9 mars 2012 07:17
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Subject: Re: [CentOS] HT (Hyper Threading) on CentOS 5.5
On Fri, Mar 09, 2012 at 11:15:29AM +0530, Kaushal Shriyan wrote:
> Hi,
Hi! i have a problem with iotop :
root@alien: ~ # iotop
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/usr/bin/iotop", line 16, in ?
main()
File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/iotop/ui.py", line 567, in main
main_loop()
File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/iotop/ui.py", line 557, in
On Fri, Mar 09, 2012 at 11:15:29AM +0530, Kaushal Shriyan wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Do we need HT enabled on CentOS release 5.5 (Final) and Kernel Version :-
> 2.6.18-194.el5
I don't think it harms anything to have it enabled, and there may be
some small performance gains in some cases. I'd leave it on.
Hi,
Do we need HT enabled on CentOS release 5.5 (Final) and Kernel Version :-
2.6.18-194.el5
Please help me understand the pros and cons of having HT enabled or
disabled on the Server Dell R 710.
cat /proc/cpuinfo -> http://fpaste.org/K2dT/
Do let me know if anyone needs more information.
Regar
On 03/08/12 5:20 PM, Robert Spangler wrote:
> I was wondering if anyone could tell me why so many processes are started on
> my system? Here is a list of them. I am trying to figure out why they are
> running and if I can stop them. Thnx.
>
> USER PID %CPU %MEM VSZ RSS TTY STAT START TIME C
On Thursday 08 March 2012 20:44, the following was written:
> From the looks of things, you have 8 CPUs (or cores), and these standard
>
> processes are being started on a 1 per core basis.
>
> I have a quad-core proc, and have 4 of each of those processes (0-3).
That is what I was thinking bu
> Hello,
>
> I was wondering if anyone could tell me why so many processes are started
> on
> my system? Here is a list of them. I am trying to figure out why they
> are
> running and if I can stop them. Thnx.
>
> USER PID %CPU %MEM VSZ RSS TTY STAT START TIME COMMAND
> root2 0.0 0.0
Hello,
I was wondering if anyone could tell me why so many processes are started on
my system? Here is a list of them. I am trying to figure out why they are
running and if I can stop them. Thnx.
USER PID %CPU %MEM VSZ RSS TTY STAT START TIME COMMAND
root2 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S<
I fetchmail on my CentOS-6.2 from 4 servers.
One always gives the warning
-
[tim@grover cron.d]$ fetchmail -a go.tcd.ie
fetchmail: Error exchanging credentials
6 messages for tmurphy at go.tcd.ie.
reading message tmur...@go.tcd.ie:1 of 6 (2978 header octets) (2639 body
On Mar 8, 2012, at 4:18 PM, Johnny Hughes wrote:
> On 03/08/2012 11:56 AM, Ross Walker wrote:
>> I see the two distribution points for each release, they seem very alike,
>> what is the difference?
>>
>> -Ross
>
> CR is something that the CentOS team will use IF we are having issues at
> "poin
On 03/08/2012 01:29 PM, John Hinton wrote:
> On 3/7/2012 1:20 PM, John R Pierce wrote:
>> On 03/07/12 10:06 AM, John Hinton wrote:
>>> I'm looking into adding a cloud to one of my servers.
>> what does "a cloud" mean in this context ?
>>
>> to me, a cloud is a set of homogenous servers running dist
On 03/08/2012 11:56 AM, Ross Walker wrote:
> I see the two distribution points for each release, they seem very alike,
> what is the difference?
>
> -Ross
CR is something that the CentOS team will use IF we are having issues at
"point release" time getting some of the updates ready (like we had w
On Mar 8, 2012, at 2:29 PM, John Hinton wrote:
> Perhaps the definition of cloud has gone lower and should be called
> "fog" now?
Totally, it has been taken way out of context and blown completely out of
proportion.
Cloud, is what is depicted as a cloud on the topology diagram. It is a
black
On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 2:36 PM, Craig White wrote:
>
>>>
>> I have so far found eyeOS and am also looking at ownCloud. Thanks Devin
>> for that link.
>
> I must be getting old because I vaguely recall these things being called
> workgroup collaboration software.
>
> Check out...
>
> - horde/
On Mar 8, 2012, at 1:12 PM, Lamar Owen wrote:
> On Thursday, March 08, 2012 12:37:30 PM Ross Walker wrote:
>> On Mar 8, 2012, at 11:06 AM, Lamar Owen wrote:
>>> I live in the same sort of world, just on a smaller scale, and my biggest
>>> power consumer is storage, not compute, but I thoroughly
On Mar 8, 2012, at 12:29 PM, John Hinton wrote:
> On 3/7/2012 1:20 PM, John R Pierce wrote:
>> On 03/07/12 10:06 AM, John Hinton wrote:
>>> I'm looking into adding a cloud to one of my servers.
>> what does "a cloud" mean in this context ?
>>
>> to me, a cloud is a set of homogenous servers runn
On 03/08/12 11:51 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
> I'm sorry, but to me, the above is a non sequitur. I was talking about how
> much power the servers drink, and that the UPSs that I have can barely,
> barely handle half as many or less, and I'm running out of UPSs, and out
> of power outlets for them
On Thu, Mar 08, 2012 at 02:51:58PM -0500, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
> John R Pierce wrote:
> > On 03/08/12 6:33 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
> >>> > ok, so 3 x 48/64 core servers uses the same power as 6 x 4/8 core ?
> >>> > thats still major win.
> >> Um, no - that's what I'm saying is*not* the ca
On Thu, 8 Mar 2012, Sorin Srbu wrote:
Another smooth update. Thanks CentOS-team!
+1
I'll note that I didn't start the updates until earlier this morning,
so I went straight to the 2.6.18-308.1.1.el5 kernel.
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On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 1:29 PM, John Hinton wrote:
>>
> It seems however that the definition is an online infrastructure which may:
> provide applications
> provide file storage
> calendar
> contacts
> collaboration
> communication
> among a number of other things
>
> and that these services are a
John R Pierce wrote:
> On 03/08/12 6:33 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
>>> > ok, so 3 x 48/64 core servers uses the same power as 6 x 4/8 core ?
>>> > thats still major win.
>> Um, no - that's what I'm saying is*not* the case. The new suckers drink
>> power - using a UPS that I could hang, say, 6 D
On 03/08/12 6:33 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
>> > ok, so 3 x 48/64 core servers uses the same power as 6 x 4/8 core ?
>> > thats still major win.
> Um, no - that's what I'm saying is*not* the case. The new suckers drink
> power - using a UPS that I could hang, say, 6 Dell 1950's off of,*if* I'm
On 3/7/2012 1:20 PM, John R Pierce wrote:
> On 03/07/12 10:06 AM, John Hinton wrote:
>> I'm looking into adding a cloud to one of my servers.
> what does "a cloud" mean in this context ?
>
> to me, a cloud is a set of homogenous servers running distributed
> applications. classic cloud is google.
On Thursday, March 08, 2012 01:38:33 PM Scott Silva wrote:
> on 3/8/2012 9:59 AM Lamar Owen spake the following:
> > I have hydrogen alarms available, but has anyone seen an H2S alarm?
> http://www.allgasdetectors.com/hydrogensulfidedetectors.shtml
> http://www.generalmonitors.com/products/h2s_s4
on 3/8/2012 9:59 AM Lamar Owen spake the following:
> On Thursday, March 08, 2012 12:37:45 PM Scott Silva wrote:
>> on 3/8/2012 1:44 AM Jonathan Vomacka spake the following:
>>> ROFL
>> When you let all the magic smoke out of a server it will usually stop
>> working... ;)
>
> I try to procure ones
On Thursday, March 08, 2012 01:15:59 PM Les Mikesell wrote:
> Usually your whole building is designed around a certain amount of
> heat load and data centers designed a few years back are probably
> already maxed out due to the earlier rounds of density increases. So
> you will need at least more
On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 11:37 AM, Ross Walker wrote:
>>
>> I live in the same sort of world, just on a smaller scale, and my biggest
>> power consumer is storage, not compute, but I thoroughly understand Mark's
>> points.
>
> So, get more power and UPS.
>
> The specs are published, so power consu
On Thursday, March 08, 2012 12:37:30 PM Ross Walker wrote:
> On Mar 8, 2012, at 11:06 AM, Lamar Owen wrote:
> > I live in the same sort of world, just on a smaller scale, and my biggest
> > power consumer is storage, not compute, but I thoroughly understand Mark's
> > points.
> So, get more pow
On Wednesday, March 07, 2012 05:06:13 PM Les Mikesell wrote:
> It's not such a big deal for desktops, but you can get small low power
> systems if you look around - or just use a laptop that will sleep when
> you close the lid.
FWIW, Aleutia (www.aleutia.com) makes some nice really low power units
On Thursday, March 08, 2012 12:37:45 PM Scott Silva wrote:
> on 3/8/2012 1:44 AM Jonathan Vomacka spake the following:
> > ROFL
> When you let all the magic smoke out of a server it will usually stop
> working... ;)
I try to procure ones with redundant magic smoke bottles.
Seriously, though, I
I see the two distribution points for each release, they seem very alike, what
is the difference?
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On 03/08/2012 02:03 PM, Ross Walker wrote:
> On Mar 7, 2012, at 7:48 PM, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote:
>
>> We are talking about *software* /boot partition on RAID1! that can have
>> any number of member partitions. And the rest of the disk here discussed
>> is *software* "mdraid RAID10" with 1,2,3,4
on 3/8/2012 1:44 AM Jonathan Vomacka spake the following:
>
>
> On 3/7/2012 9:32 PM, Devin Reade wrote:
>> John R Pierce wrote:
>>
>>> I don't understand how ANYTHING you do on a single server could be
>>> called 'cloudy'.
>>
>> Well, if it catches fire and produces lots of white smoke ...
>
> RO
On Mar 8, 2012, at 11:06 AM, Lamar Owen wrote:
> On Thursday, March 08, 2012 10:52:02 AM Les Mikesell wrote:
>> Yes, part of the power savings are deceptive - they only kick in when
>> the CPUs are idle and your users would be one of the rare cases that
>> peg them for long intervals. I think t
On Thursday, March 08, 2012 11:59:31 AM Wessel van der Aart wrote:
> Hi Lamar,
>
> i tried their free version today.
> at first it did look promising but as soon i was to perform actions on
> files with acl's on them the whole system came down hard and leaving my
> external HDD corrupted.
> afte
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Hi Lamar,
i tried their free version today.
at first it did look promising but as soon i was to perform actions on
files with acl's on them the whole system came down hard and leaving my
external HDD corrupted.
after several hours i've decided to give up and go with ext4
but still thanks!
Wesse
Lamar Owen wrote:
> On Thursday, March 08, 2012 10:45:26 AM m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
>> CentOS 6. T-bird 3.1.18
>>
>> Is there *ANY* way to search message on message *CONTENT*, not header? I
>> used to do that all the time
>>
>> mark "or maybe I'll dump t-bird"
>
> Hmm.
> [root@migra
Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote:
> On 03/08/2012 04:45 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
>> CentOS 6. T-bird 3.1.18
>>
>> Is there *ANY* way to search message on message *CONTENT*, not header? I
>> used to do that all the time
>
> Edit menu -> Find -> Search Messages? I have T-bird 9 at the moment.
Or , b
On 03/08/2012 06:44 AM, Rainer Traut wrote:
> Am 08.03.2012 12:33, schrieb Johnny Hughes:
>> On 03/08/2012 02:48 AM, Sorin Srbu wrote:
>>> Another smooth update. Thanks CentOS-team!
>> Thanks! Lots of very hard work by the QA team.
>>
>> Everyone needs to look at their /var/log/messages if they ha
On 03/08/2012 09:45 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
> CentOS 6. T-bird 3.1.18
>
> Is there *ANY* way to search message on message *CONTENT*, not header? I
> used to do that all the time
>
> mark "or maybe I'll dump t-bird"
>
Please upgrade your Thunderbird to the officially released 10.0.1
On 03/08/2012 07:49 AM, Toralf Lund wrote:
> On 08/03/12 14:35, John Doe wrote:
>> I use both 3.6.26 (from centOS 5) and 10.0.2 (binary from mozilla).
>> And, after setting the same font settings in both, I cannot see any real
>> differences...
>> Only tiny difference I could find if I screenshot
On Thursday, March 08, 2012 10:45:26 AM m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
> CentOS 6. T-bird 3.1.18
>
> Is there *ANY* way to search message on message *CONTENT*, not header? I
> used to do that all the time
>
> mark "or maybe I'll dump t-bird"
Hmm.
[root@migration ~]# repoquery thunderbir
On Thursday, March 08, 2012 10:52:02 AM Les Mikesell wrote:
> Yes, part of the power savings are deceptive - they only kick in when
> the CPUs are idle and your users would be one of the rare cases that
> peg them for long intervals. I think this is getting better in the
> current generation but
On 03/08/2012 04:45 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
> CentOS 6. T-bird 3.1.18
>
> Is there *ANY* way to search message on message *CONTENT*, not header? I
> used to do that all the time
Edit menu -> Find -> Search Messages? I have T-bird 9 at the moment.
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On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 8:33 AM, wrote:
>
>>> VM's? Sorry, we're doing very serious scientific computing - the couple
>>> or so VMs we had are going away. I mean, when, for example, one guy I
>>> support gets on a 48 core box, and proceeds to fire up an R job, and
>>> uses*all* of them Plus,
CentOS 6. T-bird 3.1.18
Is there *ANY* way to search message on message *CONTENT*, not header? I
used to do that all the time
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On 03/08/2012 06:37 AM, John R Pierce wrote:
> On 03/08/12 3:33 AM, Johnny Hughes wrote:
>> On 03/08/2012 02:48 AM, Sorin Srbu wrote:
Another smooth update. Thanks CentOS-team!
>> Thanks! Lots of very hard work by the QA team.
>>
>> Everyone needs to look at their /var/log/messages if they h
On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 2:55 AM, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote:
> On 03/08/2012 10:14 AM, Janez Kosmrlj wrote:
> > any idea when will firefox 10 be available for centos 5?
> > ___
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been playing with my host machine and thought some might want to see
what I have on and the full list of chkconfig
I have installed desktop and x windows system to bring up a desktop when
I want one with startx.
I turned 'off' quite a bit and yum removed quite a bit.
These set of programs still
On 8.3.2012 13:44, Rainer Traut wrote:
> Am 08.03.2012 12:33, schrieb Johnny Hughes:
>> On 03/08/2012 02:48 AM, Sorin Srbu wrote:
>>> Another smooth update. Thanks CentOS-team!
>>
>> Thanks! Lots of very hard work by the QA team.
>>
>> Everyone needs to look at their /var/log/messages if they have
From: John Doe
> Hum... playing with the gnome font settings does not change anything
> in either firefoxes...
But if you meant changing something else than rendering: if change
the "Application font", it changes in both firefoxes instantaneously...
Maybe check in /etc/fonts/conf.d/...
JD
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John R Pierce wrote:
> On 03/08/12 4:39 AM, mark wrote:
>> VM's? Sorry, we're doing very serious scientific computing - the couple
>> or so VMs we had are going away. I mean, when, for example, one guy I
>> support gets on a 48 core box, and proceeds to fire up an R job, and
>> uses*all* of them..
From: Toralf Lund
> Like I said elsewhere, I looks like the version 10 applications do not
> pick up the settings from System->Preferences->Fonts->Details... in
> GNOME. I've just verified that Firefox does on a system with an older
> CentOS version, although there are no direct updates like f
On 08/03/12 14:35, John Doe wrote:
> I use both 3.6.26 (from centOS 5) and 10.0.2 (binary from mozilla).
> And, after setting the same font settings in both, I cannot see any real
> differences...
> Only tiny difference I could find if I screenshot both and zoom a lot is
> lighter pixels in the a
I use both 3.6.26 (from centOS 5) and 10.0.2 (binary from mozilla).
And, after setting the same font settings in both, I cannot see any real
differences...
Only tiny difference I could find if I screenshot both and zoom a lot is
lighter pixels in the anti-aliasing of 10.x.
But that might just dep
On 08/03/12 12:46, Sorin Srbu wrote:
> -Original Message-
> From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf
> Of Toralf Lund
> Sent: den 8 mars 2012 12:40
> To: centos@centos.org
> Subject: Re: [CentOS] Thunderbird and Firefox 10 font rendering
>
> BTW, besides
On Mar 7, 2012, at 7:48 PM, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote:
> We are talking about *software* /boot partition on RAID1! that can have
> any number of member partitions. And the rest of the disk here discussed
> is *software* "mdraid RAID10" with 1,2,3,4,... member partitions, not
> regular hardware
Am 08.03.2012 12:33, schrieb Johnny Hughes:
> On 03/08/2012 02:48 AM, Sorin Srbu wrote:
>> Another smooth update. Thanks CentOS-team!
>
> Thanks! Lots of very hard work by the QA team.
>
> Everyone needs to look at their /var/log/messages if they have an SAS
> hard drive.
>
> This is a very big (a
On 03/08/12 4:39 AM, mark wrote:
> VM's? Sorry, we're doing very serious scientific computing - the couple
> or so VMs we had are going away. I mean, when, for example, one guy I
> support gets on a 48 core box, and proceeds to fire up an R job, and
> uses*all* of them Plus, we're running out
John R Pierce wrote:
> On 03/07/12 2:09 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
>> Heh. Many of the new servers we are getting are all on the order of 48 or
>> 64 cores, and they eat and drink power. The same UPS that would handle six
>> 4 or 8 core boxes can handle*three*, if we're lucky, when a clustering
>>
On 03/08/12 3:33 AM, Johnny Hughes wrote:
> On 03/08/2012 02:48 AM, Sorin Srbu wrote:
>> > Another smooth update. Thanks CentOS-team!
> Thanks! Lots of very hard work by the QA team.
>
> Everyone needs to look at their /var/log/messages if they have an SAS
> hard drive.
>
> This is a very big (an
I see it now. I checked the packages in the base repository and there is
still ff 3.6.x. Now i see it is in the updates repository.
On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 12:33 PM, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote:
> On 03/08/2012 12:27 PM, Johnny Hughes wrote:
> > On 03/08/2012 03:55 AM, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote:
>
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From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf
Of Toralf Lund
Sent: den 8 mars 2012 12:40
To: centos@centos.org
Subject: Re: [CentOS] Thunderbird and Firefox 10 font rendering
BTW, besides the bluryness, the fonts also look thinner somehow;
On 08/03/12 12:35, Sorin Srbu wrote:
> -Original Message-
> From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf
> Of Toralf Lund
> Sent: den 8 mars 2012 11:36
> To: CentOS mailing list
> Subject: [CentOS] Thunderbird and Firefox 10 font rendering
>
> Does anyone els
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Of Toralf Lund
Sent: den 8 mars 2012 11:36
To: CentOS mailing list
Subject: [CentOS] Thunderbird and Firefox 10 font rendering
Does anyone else experience this? Any idea how to fix it (besides
On 03/08/2012 12:27 PM, Johnny Hughes wrote:
> On 03/08/2012 03:55 AM, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote:
>> On 03/08/2012 10:14 AM, Janez Kosmrlj wrote:
>>> any idea when will firefox 10 be available for centos 5?
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On 03/08/2012 02:48 AM, Sorin Srbu wrote:
> Another smooth update. Thanks CentOS-team!
Thanks! Lots of very hard work by the QA team.
Everyone needs to look at their /var/log/messages if they have an SAS
hard drive.
This is a very big (and potentially dangerous) problem:
http://bugs.centos.org
On 03/08/2012 03:55 AM, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote:
> On 03/08/2012 10:14 AM, Janez Kosmrlj wrote:
>> any idea when will firefox 10 be available for centos 5?
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Hi.
I just upgraded to CentOS 5.8 and got Thunderbird and Firefox 10, and I
regret it already... I find that reading texts in these new versions is
much more straining to the eyes than it used to be, as something must
have changed with the font rendering - simply put, all letters appears
to ha
On 8.3.2012 10:14, Janez Kosmrlj wrote:
> any idea when
will firefox 10 be available for centos 5?
CentOS 5.8 was announced today and it includes firefox 10 AFAICS.
https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHEA-2012-0327.html
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Most likely never. At least as far as I know. I
On 3/7/2012 9:32 PM, Devin Reade wrote:
> John R Pierce wrote:
>
>> I don't understand how ANYTHING you do on a single server could be
>> called 'cloudy'.
>
> Well, if it catches fire and produces lots of white smoke ...
ROFL
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Le 08/03/12 03:32, Devin Reade a écrit :
> John R Pierce wrote:
>
>> I don't understand how ANYTHING you do on a single server could be
>> called 'cloudy'.
> Well, if it catches fire and produces lots of white smoke ...
AHaha this, sir, is the best cloud definition I heard in the intarweb 2.1
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