[CentOS] Qt 4.8.1. on CentOS 5

2012-05-10 Thread Toralf Lund
Hi, Has anyone here tried the latest Qt version - 4.8.1 - on a CentOS 5 system? I've tried, and also failed - most programs will crash during some very fundamental operation, like drawing windows or something. This only happens when GUI Style is set to "Desktop Settings (Default)" (when runnin

Re: [CentOS] Allow updates but not upgrades

2012-05-10 Thread Robert Nichols
On 05/10/2012 12:36 AM, Gregory Machin wrote: > Hi. > At the moment it seems my machines just update to the latest current > release . I install a 6.0 machine and run yum update , and next thing > its 6.2 . > > I have a requirement where I need machines to only upgrade to even > numbered sub releas

Re: [CentOS] Allow updates but not upgrades

2012-05-10 Thread Gregory Machin
On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 2:40 AM, Les Mikesell wrote: > On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 8:02 AM, Johnny Hughes wrote: > >>> All of those that I've investigated make you manage copies of packages >>> locally which seems like overkill when you aren't changing them >>> locally.  Is there any solution tha

Re: [CentOS] Allow updates but not upgrades

2012-05-10 Thread Gregory Machin
The even number is merely selected as a reference point, nothing to do with stable or unstable . I'm aiming to create a controlled environment where there is less that users can do to break their systems ... On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 12:49 AM, Dennis Jacobfeuerborn wrote: > On 05/10/2012 08:55 AM

Re: [CentOS] when is the o.s. considered to be at a certain minor version? Or, is it safe to apply only certain package updates from the next release version?

2012-05-10 Thread Phil Schaffner
Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote on 05/10/2012 05:56 PM: > I do not agree with "minor versions are only snapshots in time when > install media is re-generated". I should have left only part of the > sentence I disagree with. What's not to agree with in that? It may be incomplete, but not incorrect. W

Re: [CentOS] when is the o.s. considered to be at a certain minor version? Or, is it safe to apply only certain package updates from the next release version?

2012-05-10 Thread Rob Kampen
On 05/11/2012 08:14 AM, Jon Detert wrote: > Two related questions about the minor release numbers (e.g. the 'x' in 5.x or > 6.x) : > > 1) What constitutes the o.s. being at a particluar minor release? Typically, > when you install you are getting a package set available from a specific > minor

Re: [CentOS] Spam, fail2ban and centos

2012-05-10 Thread Scott Silva
on 5/10/2012 9:47 AM Les Mikesell spake the following: > On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 10:52 AM, Scott Silva wrote: >>> >>> I think you are over-analyzing. The senders are distributed and shift >>> around whether you do anything defensive or not, and if you have ever >>> accepted an address, even years

Re: [CentOS] webmin and DNS configuration on CentOS 6.2

2012-05-10 Thread Craig White
On May 10, 2012, at 10:25 AM, John R Pierce wrote: > On 05/10/12 1:57 AM, John Doe wrote: >> http://www.virtualmin.com/node/19608 >>> From that page: "The best fix for now would be to >> stop using the chroot completely, as it has few real security benefits >> in my opinion." > > from my page (n

Re: [CentOS] NetworkManager frustration...

2012-05-10 Thread Kahlil Hodgson
On 10/05/12 20:55, Timothy Madden wrote: > > I would like to use dnsmasq to cache nameserver query results, and I > have set dhcp to prepend the 127.0.0.1 name-server to the list of > nameservers. dnsmasq would then automatically exclude the localhost as a > name server and use all the others from

Re: [CentOS] webmin and DNS configuration on CentOS 6.2

2012-05-10 Thread Craig White
On May 10, 2012, at 6:27 AM, Bob Hoffman wrote: >> > What I got out of it is virtualmin is trying to play with chrooted files > in the chrooted location instead of understanding > that bind-chroot kinda dynamically or symbolically puts them there (or > whatever it does). > It should be changing

Re: [CentOS] when is the o.s. considered to be at a certain minor version? Or, is it safe to apply only certain package updates from the next release version?

2012-05-10 Thread Les Mikesell
On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 4:56 PM, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: >> > I do not agree with "minor versions are only snapshots in time when > install media is re-generated". I should have left only part of the > sentence I disagree with. They coincide with batches of less critical fixes so if you are in

Re: [CentOS] when is the o.s. considered to be at a certain minor version? Or, is it safe to apply only certain package updates from the next release version?

2012-05-10 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
On 05/10/2012 11:48 PM, Les Mikesell wrote: > On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 4:12 PM, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: >> >> I can not agree with this. Minor versions also introduce newer kernels >> (hardware support) and some changes in packages that are not done during >> regular update releases. Certain tec

Re: [CentOS] when is the o.s. considered to be at a certain minor version? Or, is it safe to apply only certain package updates from the next release version?

2012-05-10 Thread Les Mikesell
On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 4:12 PM, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: > > I can not agree with this. Minor versions also introduce newer kernels > (hardware support) and some changes in packages that are not done during > regular update releases. Certain technological previews are also > introduced and so o

Re: [CentOS] when is the o.s. considered to be at a certain minor version? Or, is it safe to apply only certain package updates from the next release version?

2012-05-10 Thread John R Pierce
On 05/10/12 2:12 PM, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: > I can not agree with this. Minor versions also introduce newer kernels > (hardware support) and some changes in packages that are not done during > regular update releases. Certain technological previews are also > introduced and so on. Those 'newe

Re: [CentOS] when is the o.s. considered to be at a certain minor version? Or, is it safe to apply only certain package updates from the next release version?

2012-05-10 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
On 05/10/2012 10:35 PM, Scott Silva wrote: > on 5/10/2012 1:14 PM Jon Detert spake the following: >> Two related questions about the minor release numbers (e.g. the 'x' in 5.x >> or 6.x) : >> >> 1) What constitutes the o.s. being at a particluar minor release? >> Typically, when you install you

Re: [CentOS] webmin and DNS configuration on CentOS 6.2

2012-05-10 Thread Robert Spangler
On Wednesday 09 May 2012 16:38, the following was written: > I have two seemingly identical (in this reglard, at least) machine - both > of them are running CentOS 6.2 with bind (bind-chroot) installed. I used > webmin to edit the DNS configuration. One one of them it seems to work > fine, on

Re: [CentOS] when is the o.s. considered to be at a certain minor version? Or, is it safe to apply only certain package updates from the next release version?

2012-05-10 Thread Scott Silva
on 5/10/2012 1:14 PM Jon Detert spake the following: > Two related questions about the minor release numbers (e.g. the 'x' in 5.x or > 6.x) : > > 1) What constitutes the o.s. being at a particluar minor release? Typically, > when you install you are getting a package set available from a specif

[CentOS] when is the o.s. considered to be at a certain minor version? Or, is it safe to apply only certain package updates from the next release version?

2012-05-10 Thread Jon Detert
Two related questions about the minor release numbers (e.g. the 'x' in 5.x or 6.x) : 1) What constitutes the o.s. being at a particluar minor release? Typically, when you install you are getting a package set available from a specific minor release number. But what minor release is the o.s. a

Re: [CentOS] best way to upgrade from default Python 2.4 to Python 2.6?

2012-05-10 Thread Jesus del Valle
> > > What is the best way to upgrade to Python 2.6 from the default Python > 2.4. > > > I've read these horror stories online and don't want to break yum. > > Hi. At least there are 2 ways that I have tried and work. The first: yum install gcc tcl tk sqlite-devel readline-devel gdbm-devel yum ins

[CentOS] Installing an *older* version of xulrunner (eg as a compatibility package)?

2012-05-10 Thread Robert Heller
Is there a way of installing xulrunner-1.9 along side xulrunner-10.0? I have an application that wants the older version of xulrunner and does not seem to work with xulrunner-10.0. -- Robert Heller -- 978-544-6933 / hel...@deepsoft.com Deepwoods Software-- http://www.deepso

Re: [CentOS] Disabling stock firewall and SELinux for ISPConfig

2012-05-10 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
On 05/10/2012 06:48 PM, Dotan Cohen wrote: > On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 6:30 PM, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: >> In distant past I though of SELinux as burden. Now, I use it on every >> system I install. >> >> Take a look at Virtualmin (GPL). I prefer it instead of ISPConfig, and >> it has regular repo

Re: [CentOS] webmin and DNS configuration on CentOS 6.2

2012-05-10 Thread bob
On 5/10/2012 1:25 PM, John R Pierce wrote: > On 05/10/12 1:57 AM, John Doe wrote: >> http://www.virtualmin.com/node/19608 >>> From that page: "The best fix for now would be to >> stop using the chroot completely, as it has few real security benefits >> in my opinion." > from my page (not written)

Re: [CentOS] webmin and DNS configuration on CentOS 6.2

2012-05-10 Thread Les Mikesell
On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 12:25 PM, John R Pierce wrote: >> > from my page (not written) > > "The best fix would be to toss webmin out the door, its a piece of junk > that just messes up your system configuration" > > same goes for CPanel, Plesk, and the rest of that lot. If webmin is a piece of ju

Re: [CentOS] eth1 - Centos 6.2 - changing names of network interfaces

2012-05-10 Thread Les Mikesell
On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 11:50 AM, Gregory P. Ennis wrote: > > Can anyone refer me to a tutorial as to how to rename the network cards, > ie I have one that ended up being system-eth3, that I want to be > system-eth1? > > I am setting up a new CentOS 6.2 system that I plan to use as a gateway > and

Re: [CentOS] webmin and DNS configuration on CentOS 6.2

2012-05-10 Thread John R Pierce
On 05/10/12 1:57 AM, John Doe wrote: > http://www.virtualmin.com/node/19608 > > From that page: "The best fix for now would be to > stop using the chroot completely, as it has few real security benefits > in my opinion." from my page (not written) "The best fix would be to toss webmin out the doo

Re: [CentOS] eth1 - Centos 6.2 - changing names of network interfaces

2012-05-10 Thread Gregory P. Ennis
Just went through this last night UUID is involved now this should help - https://alteeve.com/w/Changing_the_ethX_to_Ethernet_Device_Mapping_in_EL6 Tom, Thank you very much. This should help me fix the problem. Greg ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS

Re: [CentOS] eth1 - Centos 6.2 - changing names of network interfaces

2012-05-10 Thread Tom Bishop
Meant to say UDEV... Just went through this last night UUID is involved now this should help - > https://alteeve.com/w/Changing_the_ethX_to_Ethernet_Device_Mapping_in_EL6 > > > On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 11:50 AM, Gregory P. Ennis wrote: > >> Everyone, >> >> Can anyone refer me to a tutorial as to ho

Re: [CentOS] eth1 - Centos 6.2 - changing names of network interfaces

2012-05-10 Thread Tom Bishop
Just went through this last night UUID is involved now this should help - https://alteeve.com/w/Changing_the_ethX_to_Ethernet_Device_Mapping_in_EL6 On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 11:50 AM, Gregory P. Ennis wrote: > Everyone, > > Can anyone refer me to a tutorial as to how to rename the network cards, >

[CentOS] eth1 - Centos 6.2 - changing names of network interfaces

2012-05-10 Thread Gregory P. Ennis
Everyone, Can anyone refer me to a tutorial as to how to rename the network cards, ie I have one that ended up being system-eth3, that I want to be system-eth1? I am setting up a new CentOS 6.2 system that I plan to use as a gateway and e-mail server. The original machine had only one nic card,

Re: [CentOS] Disabling stock firewall and SELinux for ISPConfig

2012-05-10 Thread Dotan Cohen
On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 6:30 PM, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: > In distant past I though of SELinux as burden. Now, I use it on every > system I install. > > Take a look at Virtualmin (GPL). I prefer it instead of ISPConfig, and > it has regular repository you can install and update from. > Thanks,

Re: [CentOS] Spam, fail2ban and centos

2012-05-10 Thread Les Mikesell
On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 10:52 AM, Scott Silva wrote: >> >> I think you are over-analyzing.  The senders are distributed and shift >> around whether you do anything defensive or not, and if you have ever >> accepted an address, even years ago with a system like qmail that >> accepted without checki

[CentOS] Logging file activity

2012-05-10 Thread Jason Pyeron
On windows I use filemon, it tells me every file operation and its result. I have search high and low, but cannot seem to find an alternative. I tried the instructions from http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2415252#post2415252 ... echo 1 > /proc/sys/vm/block_dump while true; do dmesg -c; s

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Re: [CentOS] Spam, fail2ban and centos

2012-05-10 Thread Scott Silva
on 5/9/2012 9:59 AM Les Mikesell spake the following: > On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 11:07 AM, Bob Hoffman wrote: >> >> I am starting to see a real pattern to all this. >> >> I would love to see someone do a case study on spam attacks. Their >> system seems well honed to scale up with your defenses unti

Re: [CentOS] Disabling stock firewall and SELinux for ISPConfig

2012-05-10 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
On 05/10/2012 04:56 PM, Dotan Cohen wrote: > I have been reading a tutorial on configuring and securing a CentOS 6.2 > machine: > http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect-server-centos-6.2-x86_64-with-apache2-ispconfig-3-p3 > > This tutorial bases the configuration on an application called > ISPConfig. I

[CentOS] Disabling stock firewall and SELinux for ISPConfig

2012-05-10 Thread Dotan Cohen
I have been reading a tutorial on configuring and securing a CentOS 6.2 machine: http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect-server-centos-6.2-x86_64-with-apache2-ispconfig-3-p3 This tutorial bases the configuration on an application called ISPConfig. I am not sure that I like the idea of disabling the stoc

Re: [CentOS] Allow updates but not upgrades

2012-05-10 Thread Johnny Hughes
On 05/10/2012 09:40 AM, Les Mikesell wrote: > On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 8:02 AM, Johnny Hughes wrote: >>> All of those that I've investigated make you manage copies of packages >>> locally which seems like overkill when you aren't changing them >>> locally. Is there any solution that simply lets yo

Re: [CentOS] Allow updates but not upgrades

2012-05-10 Thread Les Mikesell
On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 8:02 AM, Johnny Hughes wrote: >> All of those that I've investigated make you manage copies of packages >> locally which seems like overkill when you aren't changing them >> locally.  Is there any solution that simply lets you tell yum not to >> install any updates new

Re: [CentOS] Allow updates but not upgrades

2012-05-10 Thread Alfred von Campe
On May 10, 2012, at 1:36, Gregory Machin wrote: > I have a requirement where I need machines to only upgrade to even > numbered sub releases eg: 6.0 , 6.2, 6.4 and only on my approval. But > will allow updates within a given release. Others have debated the usefulness of this requirement, so I wo

Re: [CentOS] NetworkManager frustration...

2012-05-10 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
On 05/10/2012 01:07 PM, Steve Clark wrote: > On 05/10/2012 06:55 AM, Timothy Madden wrote: >> I would like to use dnsmasq to cache nameserver query results, and I >> have set dhcp to prepend the 127.0.0.1 name-server to the list of >> nameservers. dnsmasq would then automatically exclude the localh

Re: [CentOS] webmin and DNS configuration on CentOS 6.2

2012-05-10 Thread Bob Hoffman
On 5/10/2012 4:57 AM, John Doe wrote: > From: Boris Epstein > >> I have two seemingly identical (in this reglard, at least) machine - both >> of them are running CentOS 6.2 with bind (bind-chroot) installed. I used >> webmin to edit the DNS configuration. One one of them it seems to work >> fine, o

Re: [CentOS] Allow updates but not upgrades

2012-05-10 Thread Johnny Hughes
On 05/10/2012 07:52 AM, Les Mikesell wrote: > On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 4:58 AM, Johnny Hughes wrote: >> There are several solutions to be able to make that happen ... manual >> repos yourself, mrepo, spacewalk, etc. >> > All of those that I've investigated make you manage copies of packages > local

Re: [CentOS] Allow updates but not upgrades

2012-05-10 Thread Les Mikesell
On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 4:58 AM, Johnny Hughes wrote: > > There are several solutions to be able to make that happen ... manual > repos yourself, mrepo, spacewalk, etc. > All of those that I've investigated make you manage copies of packages locally which seems like overkill when you aren't chang

Re: [CentOS] Allow updates but not upgrades

2012-05-10 Thread Dennis Jacobfeuerborn
On 05/10/2012 08:55 AM, John R Pierce wrote: > On 05/09/12 10:36 PM, Gregory Machin wrote: >> I have a requirement where I need machines to only upgrade to even >> numbered sub releases eg: 6.0 , 6.2, 6.4 and only on my approval. > > thats a rather strange requirement. 6.1 is 6.0 with updates rol

Re: [CentOS] NetworkManager frustration...

2012-05-10 Thread Steve Clark
On 05/10/2012 06:55 AM, Timothy Madden wrote: > I would like to use dnsmasq to cache nameserver query results, and I > have set dhcp to prepend the 127.0.0.1 name-server to the list of > nameservers. dnsmasq would then automatically exclude the localhost as a > name server and use all the others fr

[CentOS] NetworkManager frustration...

2012-05-10 Thread Timothy Madden
I would like to use dnsmasq to cache nameserver query results, and I have set dhcp to prepend the 127.0.0.1 name-server to the list of nameservers. dnsmasq would then automatically exclude the localhost as a name server and use all the others from the list provided by dhcp. But it was too nice

Re: [CentOS] Allow updates but not upgrades

2012-05-10 Thread Johnny Hughes
On 05/10/2012 04:49 AM, Peter Kjellström wrote: > On Thursday 10 May 2012 03.58.17 Johnny Hughes wrote: >> On 05/10/2012 01:46 AM, Peter Kjellström wrote: >>> On Thursday 10 May 2012 17.36.07 Gregory Machin wrote: Hi. At the moment it seems my machines just update to the latest current >>

Re: [CentOS] Allow updates but not upgrades

2012-05-10 Thread Peter Kjellström
On Thursday 10 May 2012 03.58.17 Johnny Hughes wrote: > On 05/10/2012 01:46 AM, Peter Kjellström wrote: > > On Thursday 10 May 2012 17.36.07 Gregory Machin wrote: > >> Hi. > >> At the moment it seems my machines just update to the latest current > >> release . I install a 6.0 machine and run yum up

Re: [CentOS] Allow updates but not upgrades

2012-05-10 Thread Johnny Hughes
On 05/10/2012 01:46 AM, Peter Kjellström wrote: > On Thursday 10 May 2012 17.36.07 Gregory Machin wrote: >> Hi. >> At the moment it seems my machines just update to the latest current >> release . I install a 6.0 machine and run yum update , and next thing >> its 6.2 . >> >> I have a requirement wh

Re: [CentOS] webmin and DNS configuration on CentOS 6.2

2012-05-10 Thread John Doe
From: Boris Epstein >I have two seemingly identical (in this reglard, at least) machine - both >of them are running CentOS 6.2 with bind (bind-chroot) installed. I used >webmin to edit the DNS configuration. One one of them it seems to work >fine, on the other I get messages akin to the following