Re: [CentOS-virt] Preferred method of provisioning VM images

2014-06-12 Thread Dario Faggioli
On gio, 2014-06-12 at 07:17 +0200, lee wrote: Lars Kurth lars.ku...@xen.org writes: Let me wear the hat of the user. The major hurdles were network setup, installing something in a vm, and the chaotic state the documentation is in. Wow... chaotic state :-O Don't get me wrong. I know

Re: [CentOS-virt] Preferred method of provisioning VM images

2014-06-12 Thread Peter
On 06/12/2014 05:17 PM, lee wrote: I knew before I started that network setup would be a PITA because years ago, I set up a VM for someone who didn't have a 64bit system to compile a 64bit version of some software. The network setup being so ridiculously difficult has kept me from touching

Re: [CentOS-virt] Preferred method of provisioning VM images

2014-06-12 Thread Peter
On 06/11/2014 04:21 AM, Lars Kurth wrote: Hi all, following the discussion on about documentation, I was wondering whether we need to look at a standard way in which we recommend how to provision images for VMs. Am starting this with a Xen hat, but the discussion should not be specific

Re: [CentOS-virt] Preferred method of provisioning VM images

2014-06-12 Thread Dario Faggioli
On mar, 2014-06-10 at 17:21 +0100, Lars Kurth wrote: Hi all, Hi! == #1 virt-install == Advantages: similar to KVM Disadvantages: may cause weird issues / confusion with people switching back to xl. The core issue is that with the current version of xen and libvirt, this only works

Re: [CentOS-virt] Preferred method of provisioning VM images

2014-06-12 Thread Dario Faggioli
On gio, 2014-06-12 at 22:34 +1200, Peter wrote: This is not a complete list of the ways you can install a VM either. My personal preference is to manually create the filesystem for the VM and then install the OS core with yum. Then after tweaking some config files you can start up the VM and

Re: [CentOS-virt] Preferred method of provisioning VM images

2014-06-12 Thread Ed Heron
On Tue, 2014-06-10 at 17:21 +0100, Lars Kurth wrote: Hi all, following the discussion on about documentation, I was wondering whether we need to look at a standard way in which we recommend how to provision images for VMs. Am starting this with a Xen hat, but the discussion should not be

Re: [CentOS-virt] Preferred method of provisioning VM images

2014-06-12 Thread SilverTip257
On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 11:47 AM, Dario Faggioli raist...@linux.it wrote: On gio, 2014-06-12 at 22:34 +1200, Peter wrote: This is not a complete list of the ways you can install a VM either. My personal preference is to manually create the filesystem for the VM and then install the OS

Re: [CentOS-virt] Are xen and centos incompatible?

2014-06-12 Thread Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
Hm, xen kinda makes the cpus and their power management invisible, too: root@heimdall:~# xenpm get-cpufreq-para [CPU0] failed to get cpufreq parameter [...] root@heimdall:~# xenpm get-cpufreq-states root@heimdall:~# So I guess it could as well make it so that lspci doesn't show

Re: [CentOS-virt] Preferred method of provisioning VM images

2014-06-12 Thread Peter
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 06/13/2014 03:47 AM, Dario Faggioli wrote: If you're up for it, Xen wiki will be glad to host it! :-P I would love to do a writeup on this, but my time is extremely limited right now. I'll see what I can do. Peter -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-

Re: [CentOS-virt] Preferred method of provisioning VM images

2014-06-12 Thread Peter
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 06/13/2014 08:30 AM, Peter wrote: On 06/13/2014 03:47 AM, Dario Faggioli wrote: If you're up for it, Xen wiki will be glad to host it! :-P I would love to do a writeup on this, but my time is extremely limited right now. I'll see what I can

[CentOS-virt] Xen PV domU reported as Xen-HVM

2014-06-12 Thread Karl Johnson
Hello, I am running two dom0s, one on CentOS 5 with Xen 4.1.2 (from Gitco) and the other one on CentOS 6 with Xen 4.2.4 (from Xen4CentOS). I host one LVM based domU on both from the same template (CentOS 6 PV) with the same Xen config (see below). However, the domU on Xen 4.1 reports itself as

Re: [CentOS-virt] Preferred method of provisioning VM images

2014-06-12 Thread NightLightHosts Admin
The world needs documentation bounties. On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 4:30 PM, Peter pe...@pajamian.dhs.org wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 06/13/2014 03:47 AM, Dario Faggioli wrote: If you're up for it, Xen wiki will be glad to host it! :-P I would love to do a

Re: [CentOS-es] Email

2014-06-12 Thread Ernesto Pérez Estévez
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 06/11/2014 10:44 AM, VICTOR MANUEL VARGAS GONZALEZ wrote: buenos Dias Me pueden horientar sobre el siguiente caso tengo un servidor centos 6.4 con MailScanner el problema que tengo es que para que mis usuarios internos puedan mandar email

Re: [CentOS] squid proxy, https and apple store - SOLVED

2014-06-12 Thread Götz Reinicke - IT Koordinator
Am 11.06.14 17:57, schrieb Arun Khan: On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 7:18 PM, Götz Reinicke - IT Koordinator goetz.reini...@filmakademie.de wrote: Am 11.06.14 15:43, schrieb Arun Khan: CentOS version? old one 5.10 Squid version? squid-2.6.STABLE21-6.el5 FWIW, Squid2 supports http 1.0 and

Re: [CentOS] Information Week: RHEL 7 released today

2014-06-12 Thread Timothy Murphy
Les Mikesell wrote: Does XFS have any advantages over ext4 for normal users, eg with laptops? I've only seen it touted for machines with enormous disks, 200TB plus. It is generally better at handling a lot of files - faster creation/deletion when there are a large number in the same

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Re: [CentOS] issue_discards in lvm.conf

2014-06-12 Thread James B. Byrne
On Wed, June 11, 2014 18:31, Frank Cox wrote: I decided that the next time I reformatted my main desktop computer (this one) I would have a ssd installed in it to use for the boot drive. Now that Centos 7 is on the horizon, I'm thinking that the time is approaching when I'll want to do that.

Re: [CentOS] Google chrome vs network settings proxy?

2014-06-12 Thread Les Mikesell
On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 11:22 PM, Gé Weijers g...@weijers.org wrote: On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 11:10 AM, Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com wrote: However, I can start a chrome connection to gmail and it just goes direct (which happens to work, I just prefer the proxy which will use a

Re: [CentOS] Google chrome vs network settings proxy?

2014-06-12 Thread Billy Crook
Makes me wonder what happens if a site uses spdy:// On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 10:10 AM, Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 11:22 PM, Gé Weijers g...@weijers.org wrote: On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 11:10 AM, Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com wrote: However, I

Re: [CentOS] Google chrome vs network settings proxy?

2014-06-12 Thread Les Mikesell
On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 10:33 AM, Billy Crook bcr...@riskanalytics.com wrote: Makes me wonder what happens if a site uses spdy:// I'd expect that to be the case for chrome talking to gmail. But it is supposed to run over https://. -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com

Re: [CentOS] issue_discards in lvm.conf

2014-06-12 Thread SilverTip257
On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 10:35 AM, James B. Byrne byrn...@harte-lyne.ca wrote: On Wed, June 11, 2014 18:31, Frank Cox wrote: I decided that the next time I reformatted my main desktop computer (this one) I would have a ssd installed in it to use for the boot drive. Now that Centos 7 is

Re: [CentOS] issue_discards in lvm.conf

2014-06-12 Thread John R Pierce
On 6/12/2014 9:38 AM, SilverTip257 wrote: A former employer of mine contracts out destruction of conventional hard drives with a machine that has a hydraulic arm and a wedge. Effectively bending the platters and some of the drive. Hardware destruction (prior to recycling/disposal) in certain

Re: [CentOS] issue_discards in lvm.conf

2014-06-12 Thread m . roth
SilverTip257 wrote: On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 10:35 AM, James B. Byrne byrn...@harte-lyne.ca wrote: On Wed, June 11, 2014 18:31, Frank Cox wrote: snip I have a question about SSD respecting security. Recently I have been investigating sanitizing these devices, together with 'smart-phones,

Re: [CentOS] issue_discards in lvm.conf

2014-06-12 Thread John R Pierce
On 6/12/2014 10:12 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: We use two methods: for the drives that are totally dead, or*sigh* the SCSI drives, they get deGaussed. For SATA that's still running, we use DBAN.*Great* software. From what I've read, one pass would probably be good enough, given how data's

Re: [CentOS] Information Week: RHEL 7 released today

2014-06-12 Thread Warren Young
On 6/11/2014 07:11, Timothy Murphy wrote: Does XFS have any advantages over ext4 for normal users, eg with laptops? If you graph machine size -- in whatever dimension you like -- vs number deployed, I think you'd find all laptops over on the left side of the CentOS deployment curve. I'd

Re: [CentOS] Information Week: RHEL 7 released today

2014-06-12 Thread Les Mikesell
On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 6:45 AM, Timothy Murphy gayle...@eircom.net wrote: Does XFS have any advantages over ext4 for normal users, eg with laptops? I've only seen it touted for machines with enormous disks, 200TB plus. It is generally better at handling a lot of files - faster

Re: [CentOS] Information Week: RHEL 7 released today

2014-06-12 Thread Jeremy Hoel
This little bit here is awesome and made me laugh. Thanks! On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 5:27 PM, Warren Young war...@etr-usa.com wrote: [*] The absolute XFS filesystem size limit is about 8 million terabytes, which requires about 500 cubic meters of the densest HDDs available today. You'd

Re: [CentOS] Information Week: RHEL 7 released today

2014-06-12 Thread Les Mikesell
On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 12:27 PM, Warren Young war...@etr-usa.com wrote: [*] The absolute XFS filesystem size limit is about 8 million terabytes, Isn't there some ratio of RAM to filesystem size (or maybe number of files or inodes) that you need to make it through an fsck? -- Les Mikesell

Re: [CentOS] issue_discards in lvm.conf

2014-06-12 Thread James B. Byrne
On Thu Jun 12 17:21:43 UTC 2014, John R Pierce pierce at hogranch.com wrote: On 6/12/2014 10:12 AM, m.roth at 5-cent.us wrote: We use two methods: for the drives that are totally dead, or*sigh* the SCSI drives, they get deGaussed. For SATA that's still running, we use DBAN.*Great*

Re: [CentOS] issue_discards in lvm.conf

2014-06-12 Thread m . roth
James B. Byrne wrote: On Thu Jun 12 17:21:43 UTC 2014, John R Pierce pierce at hogranch.com wrote: On 6/12/2014 10:12 AM, m.roth at 5-cent.us wrote: We use two methods: for the drives that are totally dead, or*sigh* the SCSI drives, they get deGaussed. For SATA that's still running, we use

Re: [CentOS] Information Week: RHEL 7 released today

2014-06-12 Thread Paul Heinlein
On Thu, 12 Jun 2014, Jeremy Hoel wrote: This little bit here is awesome and made me laugh. Thanks! Agreed. Warren wins the Internet today. On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 5:27 PM, Warren Young war...@etr-usa.com wrote: [*] The absolute XFS filesystem size limit is about 8 million terabytes,

Re: [CentOS] Information Week: RHEL 7 released today

2014-06-12 Thread Warren Young
On 6/12/2014 12:54, Paul Heinlein wrote: On Thu, 12 Jun 2014, Jeremy Hoel wrote: This little bit here is awesome and made me laugh. Thanks! Agreed. Warren wins the Internet today. Thank you, thank you. Now go read some What if? to see how a true master plays this game. [*]

Re: [CentOS] Information Week: RHEL 7 released today

2014-06-12 Thread Jeremy Hoel
Oh yeah.. He does great work. I'm looking forward to his book that comes out. On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 7:27 PM, Warren Young war...@etr-usa.com wrote: On 6/12/2014 12:54, Paul Heinlein wrote: On Thu, 12 Jun 2014, Jeremy Hoel wrote: This little bit here is awesome and made me laugh.

Re: [CentOS] Information Week: RHEL 7 released today

2014-06-12 Thread m . roth
Paul Heinlein wrote: On Thu, 12 Jun 2014, Jeremy Hoel wrote: This little bit here is awesome and made me laugh. Thanks! Agreed. Warren wins the Internet today. On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 5:27 PM, Warren Young war...@etr-usa.com wrote: [*] The absolute XFS filesystem size limit is about 8

Re: [CentOS] issue_discards in lvm.conf

2014-06-12 Thread Devin Reade
--On Thursday, June 12, 2014 10:35:26 AM -0400 James B. Byrne byrn...@harte-lyne.ca wrote: I have a question about SSD respecting security. [...] I have come to the rather unsettling conclusion that it is effectively impossible to 'sanitize' these things short of complete and utter physical

Re: [CentOS] yum install to a portable location

2014-06-12 Thread Robert Stuart
Hi Dan, Chroot gets you a space that looks like it is a separate system. Given this is R, I assume you are probably wanting this for HPC like purposes... Could I suggest building your own version of R and installing into a nfs area? You may also wish to investigate the facilities provided by

Re: [CentOS] Mailman 2.1.16 RPMs?

2014-06-12 Thread Devin Reade
--On Wednesday, April 30, 2014 07:52:56 AM -0400 Robert Heller hel...@deepsoft.com wrote: Before I go through the hassle of building it myself I want to know if someone else has built RPMS for Mailman 2.1.16. Following up on this, has anyone got a documented procedure, .spec files, or