Re: [CentOS] Use postfix and spamd on CentOS 6 - looking for a shortest guide

2014-08-13 Thread Rob Kampen
On 08/14/2014 07:14 AM, Ned Slider wrote: > On 13/08/14 17:32, Timothy Murphy wrote: >> BC wrote: >> I've never seen a 1-page document that said, "These are the changes I made after downloading packages X, Y and Z." >>> There is a large chasm between configuring a mail server and understa

Re: [CentOS] CentOS 7 - Firewall always allows outgoing packets?

2014-08-13 Thread Rob Kampen
On 08/14/2014 01:16 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote: > Jonathan Billings wrote: > >> 'FirewallD' doesn't replace 'iptables' except in the sense of activated >> system services, not the core firewall functionality. FirewallD just >> builds and modifies iptables rules. > I'm a bit surprised no-one has ment

Re: [CentOS] Use postfix and spamd on CentOS 6 - looking for a shortest guide

2014-08-13 Thread Keith Keller
On 2014-08-13, Timothy Murphy wrote: > > I seem to recall that you have very occasionally made helpful suggestions - > maybe I am confusing you with someone else. I am somewhat mortified that you are not applying Occam's razor here. If you believe that I have been helpful in the past, isn't the s

Re: [CentOS] slow i/o with a raid 50 on a 3ware controller

2014-08-13 Thread Steven Tardy
On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 2:44 PM, Chuck Campbell wrote: > I have a raid 50 array on a 3ware controller. The box is running centos > 6.5 and > the file system is ext4. > > I'm going to try some other filesystems, but could anyone suggest any > alternative raid setups as well as stripe sizes I should

Re: [CentOS] Use postfix and spamd on CentOS 6 - looking for a shortest guide

2014-08-13 Thread Les Mikesell
On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 6:19 PM, Timothy Murphy wrote: > >> That was back when it was safe to assume that those one or more >> destination wanted to receive anything that showed up on port 25. Or >> that you could reasonably accept the unwanted data and subsequently >> send it back to wherever t

Re: [CentOS] Centos Website

2014-08-13 Thread John R Pierce
On 8/13/2014 1:29 PM, Andreas Benzler wrote: > on the website > > remove > http://isoredirect.centos.org/centos/6/isos/i386/ why? centos 6 ISO's are still supported, still available for download. thats the generic link to the mirror farm. -- john r pierce

Re: [CentOS] Centos Website

2014-08-13 Thread Jim Perrin
On 08/13/2014 03:29 PM, Andreas Benzler wrote: > Hello Guys... > > Get Centos -> download > > Minimal Install Images point to 6.5 > > http://wiki.centos.org/Manuals/ReleaseNotes/CentOSMinimalCD6.5 > > something like > > http://wiki.centos.org/Manuals/ReleaseNotes/CentOSMinimalCD7.0 This pag

Re: [CentOS] Use postfix and spamd on CentOS 6 - looking for a shortest guide

2014-08-13 Thread Timothy Murphy
Les Mikesell wrote: > On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 5:55 PM, Timothy Murphy >> In my experience email has been working without problems >> for as long as Unix has been running, >> long before system administrator exams were invented. > > That was back when it was safe to assume that those one or more

Re: [CentOS] Use postfix and spamd on CentOS 6 - looking for a shortest guide

2014-08-13 Thread Les Mikesell
On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 5:55 PM, Timothy Murphy wrote: > > > As I see it, the principal task of postfix is to take in email > arriving at port 25, and convey it to one or more destinations. > > In my experience email has been working without problems > for as long as Unix has been running, > long

Re: [CentOS] anaconda, kickstart, lvm over raid, logvol --grow, centos7 mystery

2014-08-13 Thread Maxim Shpakov
Just want to mention that this behaviour is already known bug https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1093144#c7 2014-07-31 12:01 GMT+03:00 Maxim Shpakov : > Hi! > > I can confirm this. > > --grow on LVM partition is broken for raid+lvm kickstart installs. > > > bootloader --location=mbr --dr

Re: [CentOS] Use postfix and spamd on CentOS 6 - looking for a shortest guide

2014-08-13 Thread Timothy Murphy
Keith Keller wrote: >> You should read more carefully. >> I said the _task_ of postfix is fairly easy to understand > As BC wrote, you think it's easy to understand because you do not > understand it. You can choose to believe that or not. I seem to recall that you have very occasionally made he

Re: [CentOS] MySQL - replication - how to restore master?

2014-08-13 Thread David Beveridge
It's quite simple really. Just make your master a slave of your slave. It's called Multi Master. see http://mysql-mmm.org/ On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 9:53 PM, John Horne wrote: > Hello, > > We have MySQL running as a master which is replicating to a single slave > server. We are, however, consid

Re: [CentOS] Use postfix and spamd on CentOS 6 - looking for a shortest guide

2014-08-13 Thread Keith Keller
On 2014-08-13, Timothy Murphy wrote: > BC wrote: > >>> The task of postfix seems to me fairly easy to understand, >>> so I don't see why implementing a solution should be that difficult. > >> It seems easy to understand because you do not understand it. The more you >> delve into the topic of mail

[CentOS] Centos Website

2014-08-13 Thread Andreas Benzler
Hello Guys... Get Centos -> download Minimal Install Images point to 6.5 http://wiki.centos.org/Manuals/ReleaseNotes/CentOSMinimalCD6.5 something like http://wiki.centos.org/Manuals/ReleaseNotes/CentOSMinimalCD7.0 on the website remove http://isoredirect.centos.org/centos/6/isos/i386/ only

Re: [CentOS] Use postfix and spamd on CentOS 6 - looking for a shortest guide

2014-08-13 Thread Les Mikesell
On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 3:06 PM, Timothy Murphy wrote: >> >> Either way, I had no intention of making you mad. I was simply trying to >> help by saying that reading a book on postfix is a very worthwhile >> pursuit. > > Not for me. > We are inundated today with an avalanche of information. > We ar

Re: [CentOS] Use postfix and spamd on CentOS 6 - looking for a shortest guide

2014-08-13 Thread Timothy Murphy
BC wrote: >> The task of postfix seems to me fairly easy to understand, >> so I don't see why implementing a solution should be that difficult. > It seems easy to understand because you do not understand it. The more you > delve into the topic of mail, the more you realize it is not easy to > und

Re: [CentOS] Use postfix and spamd on CentOS 6 - looking for a shortest guide

2014-08-13 Thread Les Mikesell
On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 2:06 PM, Always Learning wrote: > >> Always Learning wrote: > >> > No one really wants to revert to Sendmail - do they ? > >> It worked fine for me for years - what do you have against it? > > Sendmail lacks the configurability of Exim. Maybe, if you refuse to use the milt

Re: [CentOS] Use postfix and spamd on CentOS 6 - looking for a shortest guide

2014-08-13 Thread Ned Slider
On 13/08/14 17:32, Timothy Murphy wrote: > BC wrote: > >>> I've never seen a 1-page document that said, >>> "These are the changes I made after downloading packages X, Y and Z." > >> There is a large chasm between configuring a mail server and understanding >> the configuration of a mail server.

Re: [CentOS] Use postfix and spamd on CentOS 6 - looking for a shortest guide

2014-08-13 Thread Always Learning
On Wed, 2014-08-13 at 19:32 +0200, Timothy Murphy wrote: > Always Learning wrote: > > No one really wants to revert to Sendmail - do they ? > It worked fine for me for years - what do you have against it? Sendmail lacks the configurability of Exim. I can refuse connections if the sender's hos

Re: [CentOS] Use postfix and spamd on CentOS 6 - looking for a shortest guide

2014-08-13 Thread John R Pierce
On 8/13/2014 10:57 AM, Valeri Galtsev wrote: > Of course, I used exaggeration (we all had "configure sendmail" chapter in > our sysadmin exam back then). After you compile human readable sendmail > config file into what sendmail uses, you get something similar to assembly > code as opposed to high

Re: [CentOS] Use postfix and spamd on CentOS 6 - looking for a shortest guide

2014-08-13 Thread Keith Keller
On 2014-08-13, Valeri Galtsev wrote: >> > > Building decent mail server with good spam filtering is different story, > and requires some system administration knowledge. Building a decent public SMTP server with good spam filtering *that does not originate spam itself* and *does not silently lose

Re: [CentOS] Use postfix and spamd on CentOS 6 - looking for a shortest guide

2014-08-13 Thread Les Mikesell
On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 12:57 PM, Valeri Galtsev wrote: > > On Wed, August 13, 2014 12:45 pm, Kirk Bocek wrote: >> >> On 8/13/2014 10:35 AM, Valeri Galtsev wrote: >>> Sendmail exists forever. ... I was extremely happy to switch away from >>> sendmail to postfix (and postfix configuration files are

[CentOS] Looking for SElinux help

2014-08-13 Thread Robert Moskowitz
This is a little OT, but I hope that someone here could help me privately... The challenge is Redsleeve (EL6 for arm) was developed on armv5 and works just fine on armv7 if you have an armv7 kernel, which I do with the Fedora 19 remix. But no working SElinux, primarily because something like n

Re: [CentOS] Use postfix and spamd on CentOS 6 - looking for a shortest guide

2014-08-13 Thread Valeri Galtsev
On Wed, August 13, 2014 12:45 pm, Kirk Bocek wrote: > > On 8/13/2014 10:35 AM, Valeri Galtsev wrote: >> Sendmail exists forever. ... I was extremely happy to switch away from >> sendmail to postfix (and postfix configuration files are human >> readable!). > > Sendmail's heritage reaches back to wh

Re: [CentOS] Use postfix and spamd on CentOS 6 - looking for a shortest guide

2014-08-13 Thread Les Mikesell
On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 12:35 PM, Valeri Galtsev wrote: >> On Wed, 2014-08-13 at 18:32 +0200, Timothy Murphy wrote: >>> If I had to read a book in order to install and configure postfix I > would go back to sendmail. >> >> No one really wants to revert to Sendmail - do they ? >> > Sendmail exists

Re: [CentOS] Use postfix and spamd on CentOS 6 - looking for a shortest guide

2014-08-13 Thread Kirk Bocek
On 8/13/2014 10:35 AM, Valeri Galtsev wrote: > Sendmail exists forever. ... I was extremely happy to switch away from > sendmail to postfix (and postfix configuration files are human readable!). Sendmail's heritage reaches back to when computer's were the size of dishwashers and had 4k of main

Re: [CentOS] Use postfix and spamd on CentOS 6 - looking for a shortest guide

2014-08-13 Thread Valeri Galtsev
On Wed, August 13, 2014 11:50 am, Always Learning wrote: > > On Wed, 2014-08-13 at 18:32 +0200, Timothy Murphy wrote: >> If I had to read a book in order to install and configure postfix I would go back to sendmail. > > No one really wants to revert to Sendmail - do they ? > Sendmail exists forever

Re: [CentOS] Use postfix and spamd on CentOS 6 - looking for a shortest guide

2014-08-13 Thread Timothy Murphy
Always Learning wrote: >> If I had to read a book in order to install and configure postfix >> I would go back to sendmail. > > Try EXIM - it worked for me almost out-of-the-box with very minimal > configuration. Since then I have introduced lots of extra refinements to > successfully keep spam o

Re: [CentOS] Use postfix and spamd on CentOS 6 - looking for a shortest guide

2014-08-13 Thread Les Mikesell
On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 11:50 AM, Always Learning wrote: > > > No one really wants to revert to Sendmail - do they ? I've always liked MimeDefang with sendmail - and these days it should be possible to make it work with postfix.Basically you connect it as a milter to the stock MTA - without m

Re: [CentOS] Use postfix and spamd on CentOS 6 - looking for a shortest guide

2014-08-13 Thread BC
On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 12:32 PM, Timothy Murphy wrote: > You sound as though you think it is meritorious > for software to be difficult to use. > No, I believe education is meritorious. > The task of postfix seems to me fairly easy to understand, > so I don't see why implementing a solution s

Re: [CentOS] Use postfix and spamd on CentOS 6 - looking for a shortest guide

2014-08-13 Thread Always Learning
On Wed, 2014-08-13 at 18:32 +0200, Timothy Murphy wrote: > If I had to read a book in order to install and configure postfix > I would go back to sendmail. Try EXIM - it worked for me almost out-of-the-box with very minimal configuration. Since then I have introduced lots of extra refinements

Re: [CentOS] Use postfix and spamd on CentOS 6 - looking for a shortest guide

2014-08-13 Thread Timothy Murphy
BC wrote: >> I've never seen a 1-page document that said, >> "These are the changes I made after downloading packages X, Y and Z." > There is a large chasm between configuring a mail server and understanding > the configuration of a mail server. Due to the many pitfalls and custom > environments,

Re: [CentOS] RH developer toolset

2014-08-13 Thread Les Mikesell
On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 11:45 PM, Karanbir Singh wrote: > >> >> Here's the link to the announcement for anyone interested: >> http://developerblog.redhat.com/2013/09/12/rhscl1-ga/ > > both of these are being worked out - and we should have CentOS releases > soon - I know Tru is hammering away at t

Re: [CentOS] Use postfix and spamd on CentOS 6 - looking for a shortest guide

2014-08-13 Thread BC
On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 7:41 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote: > > I've never seen a 1-page document that said, > "These are the changes I made after downloading packages X, Y and Z." > And there are few if any tests to determine where email is going > if it is not going where you want it to. > There is

Re: [CentOS] MySQL - replication - how to restore master?

2014-08-13 Thread Denniston, Todd A CIV NAVSURFWARCENDIV Crane
> -Original Message- > From: John Horne [mailto:john.ho...@plymouth.ac.uk] > Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2014 7:53 AM > To: CentOS list > Subject: [CentOS] MySQL - replication - how to restore master? > > Hello, > > However, I am having trouble finding out what to do should we lose the >

Re: [CentOS] CentOS 7 - Firewall always allows outgoing packets?

2014-08-13 Thread Valeri Galtsev
On Wed, August 13, 2014 8:16 am, Timothy Murphy wrote: > Jonathan Billings wrote: > >> 'FirewallD' doesn't replace 'iptables' except in the sense of activated >> system services, not the core firewall functionality. FirewallD just >> builds and modifies iptables rules. > > I often wonder if I am

Re: [CentOS] CentOS 7 - Firewall always allows outgoing packets?

2014-08-13 Thread Michael Kress
Am 13.08.2014 um 15:16 schrieb Timothy Murphy: > > I'm a bit surprised no-one has mentioned shorewall. > I'm using it on two tiny home servers, > one under CentOS-6 and the other CentOS-7. > Basically, this is because I don't understand iptables, > or really want to understand it. here, too, I'm

Re: [CentOS] CentOS 7 - Firewall always allows outgoing packets?

2014-08-13 Thread Timothy Murphy
Jonathan Billings wrote: > 'FirewallD' doesn't replace 'iptables' except in the sense of activated > system services, not the core firewall functionality. FirewallD just > builds and modifies iptables rules. I'm a bit surprised no-one has mentioned shorewall. I'm using it on two tiny home serve

Re: [CentOS] Dual boot with 2 drives

2014-08-13 Thread Joseph Hesse
On 08/09/2014 05:23 AM, Alan McRae wrote: > No problems Joe. I have done this multiple times. > > I assume you have Fedora 20 on sda (the first disk) with > the bootloader (grub2) on sda. Your BIOS will be set to boot sda. > > You install CentOS 7 on sdb (obvious). > > Your options are with the boo

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[CentOS] MySQL - replication - how to restore master?

2014-08-13 Thread John Horne
Hello, We have MySQL running as a master which is replicating to a single slave server. We are, however, considering what is required when a 'disaster' of some sort happens to either server. By disaster, this could be some event which requires the entire server to be rebuilt, and which would usual

Re: [CentOS] Use postfix and spamd on CentOS 6 - looking for a shortest guide

2014-08-13 Thread Timothy Murphy
Valeri Galtsev wrote: > while you haven't settled on anything you could consider amavisd as > well... I'm using amavisd on a CentOS-6 server (with dovecot and spamassassin) but I found it very difficult to setup. The documentation for amavisd under CentOS is unbelievably bad. In fact, the documen

Re: [CentOS] Package hwloc-1.5-2.el6_5.x86_64.rpm is not signed

2014-08-13 Thread zep
yeah, I noticed that too but didn't get as far as emailing the list. if you do a yum update (or at least did one yesterday; it might have changed overnight), yum will throw this warning just before it exits. On 08/12/2014 07:37 PM, Leonard den Ottolander wrote: > Package hwloc-1.5-2.el6_5.x86_64.r