Re: [CentOS] systemctl (again)

2015-04-04 Thread Andrew Holway
Thats wierd. I've never had any problem with systemctl or systemd like that. Do you have your service file in the right place with the right permissions. here is the httpd service file as a reference. [centos@ipa ~]$ ls /usr/lib/systemd/system/httpd.service -l -rw-r--r--. 1 root root 694 Mar 12

Re: [CentOS] The future of centos

2015-04-04 Thread Alain Péan
Le 04/04/2015 03:01, Francis Gerund a écrit : Almost everyone here has probably read this by now. If so, move along, nothing new here. But just in case you haven't, please take the time to read this. Here it is, in their own words: what Redhat thinks of Centos, and it's plans for the future of

Re: [CentOS] [CentOS-announce] Release for CentOS Linux 7 (1503 ) on x86_64

2015-04-04 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 04/04/15 00:13, Always Learning wrote: > Posted on behalf of Mark (m.r...@5-cent.us) who is currently > experiencing technical difficulties with his Internet connection > - > > > >> On Fri, 2015-04-03 at 11:23 -0400, Lamar Owen wrote: >> >>> I really think that

Re: [CentOS] The future of centos

2015-04-04 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 04/04/15 02:40, Digimer wrote: > On 03/04/15 09:39 PM, Always Learning wrote: >> >> On Fri, 2015-04-03 at 21:27 -0400, Digimer wrote: >> >>> Being on CentOS, it is then trivial for these >>> companies to switch the RHEL proper. >> >> Not if Centos and RHEL become too incompatible. > > Exactly w

Re: [CentOS] The future of centos

2015-04-04 Thread Nux!
100% with Digimer here. I think there are no conspiracy theories. IMO RedHat does not want nor does it afford to mess up CentOS. All this energy should be put into contributing towards to the project, testing, helping out community. Lucian -- Sent from the Delta quadrant using Borg technology

Re: [CentOS] The future of centos

2015-04-04 Thread Always Learning
On Sat, 2015-04-04 at 11:10 +0100, Karanbir Singh wrote: > Now if you look at the SIGs coming up and delivering content - it > should again be pretty clear what sort of content we are facilitating > here. I think it inevitable that Red Hat will introduce some closed source packages for the its p

[CentOS] CentOS-announce Digest, Vol 122, Issue 3

2015-04-04 Thread centos-announce-request
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Re: [CentOS] systemctl (again)

2015-04-04 Thread J Martin Rushton
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thanks Andrew. One more problem solved, as I discovered last thing yesterday there was a missing "[Install]". Using your copy of the httpd service I cut-and-pasted it onto the end of the service file you'd given me earlier and at last was able to loa

Re: [CentOS] [CentOS-announce] Release for CentOS Linux 7 (1503 ) on x86_64

2015-04-04 Thread Valeri Galtsev
On Sat, April 4, 2015 4:47 am, Karanbir Singh wrote: > On 04/04/15 00:13, Always Learning wrote: >> Posted on behalf of Mark (m.r...@5-cent.us) who is currently >> experiencing technical difficulties with his Internet connection >> - >> >> >> >>> On Fri, 2015-04-03

Re: [CentOS] The future of centos

2015-04-04 Thread Lamar Owen
On 04/04/2015 07:04 AM, Always Learning wrote: I think it inevitable that Red Hat will introduce some closed source packages for the its paying customers, ... For the sake of perspective, even in the old Red Hat Linux boxed sets in 1997 this was true. There was a whole CD of closed source stuff

Re: [CentOS] The future of centos

2015-04-04 Thread Lamar Owen
On 04/04/2015 06:12 AM, Nux! wrote: 100% with Digimer here. I think there are no conspiracy theories. IMO RedHat does not want nor does it afford to mess up CentOS. All this energy should be put into contributing towards to the project, testing, helping out community. Lucian Agreed, and I

Re: [CentOS] Iptables config removed with 7.1 update

2015-04-04 Thread Gregory P. Ennis
On Thu, 2015-04-02 at 22:42 -0600, Paul R. Ganci wrote: > I had turned off firewalld and was using iptables when I originally > installed CentOS 7.0. Two days ago I upgraded my CentOS 7.0 to 7.1. > Everything seemed to be fine. Today I discovered that my iptables > configuration was removed wit

Re: [CentOS] [CentOS-announce] Release for CentOS Linux 7 (1503 ) on x86_64

2015-04-04 Thread Les Mikesell
On Fri, Apr 3, 2015 at 12:19 PM, Always Learning wrote: > > Will Centos versions eventually become incompatible, partially or > wholly, with its parent's RHEL versions ? I can understand why that > would be commercially advantageous to RH. > I think it would be commercially advantageous if they

Re: [CentOS] systemctl (again)

2015-04-04 Thread Pete Travis
On Apr 4, 2015 7:55 AM, "J Martin Rushton" wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Thanks Andrew. > > One more problem solved, as I discovered last thing yesterday there > was a missing "[Install]". Using your copy of the httpd service I > cut-and-pasted it onto the end of

Re: [CentOS] video problem since 2015-04-01 update

2015-04-04 Thread Francis Gerund
Is there a way in Centos 7 to boot into an alternate video setup? Some distributions have an option to boot into something called VESA (or something similar). Something that might not have the fanciest features, but more likely to at least just work. On Fri, Apr 3, 2015 at 8:58 PM, Francis Gerun

Re: [CentOS] The future of centos

2015-04-04 Thread Andrew Holway
In the context of this discussion I would appreciate any feedback the list might have on this article I wrote for my new company. http://otternetworks.de/tech/rhel-centos-brief/ I for one welcome our Redhat overlords. I think they will provide better governance which should give Centos better cre

Re: [CentOS] The future of centos

2015-04-04 Thread Bill Maltby (C4B)
On Sat, 2015-04-04 at 11:12 +0100, Nux! wrote: > 100% with Digimer here. > > All this energy should be put into contributing towards to the project, > testing, helping out community. Well, I used to agree. But when a bug report filed in December goes untouched entering April, which I don't reca

[CentOS] Some subscribers posts to the list ending up in Gmail spam

2015-04-04 Thread Andrew Holway
Did we work out the technical reason why some users that post to the list are getting dumped into gmail spam? Ta, Andrew ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos

Re: [CentOS] Some subscribers posts to the list ending up in Gmail spam

2015-04-04 Thread Hal Wigoda
I get that too. How do you turn this off? They could be using an email server that is on a blacklist. On Sat, Apr 4, 2015 at 11:59 AM, Andrew Holway wrote: > Did we work out the technical reason why some users that post to the list > are getting dumped into gmail spam? > > Ta, > > Andrew > _

Re: [CentOS] The future of centos

2015-04-04 Thread Andrew Holway
> > Well, I used to agree. But when a bug report filed in December goes > untouched entering April, which I don't recall happening prior to RH > subsuming the project, it takes away impetus to ever file one again from > lowly end users like me I think. It appears that you are the only one to have

Re: [CentOS] The future of centos

2015-04-04 Thread Bill Maltby (C4B)
On Sat, 2015-04-04 at 19:14 +0200, Andrew Holway wrote: > > > > Well, I used to agree. But when a bug report filed in December goes > > untouched entering April, which I don't recall happening prior to RH > > subsuming the project, it takes away impetus to ever file one again from > > lowly end use

Re: [CentOS] video problem since 2015-04-01 update

2015-04-04 Thread Bill Maltby (C4B)
On Sat, 2015-04-04 at 11:24 -0500, Francis Gerund wrote: > Is there a way in Centos 7 to boot into an alternate video setup? Check the kernel parameters - ISTR long ago using a paramer to the kernel added to the grub boot line that had one of my machines go into VESA mode. ISTR some numbers after "

Re: [CentOS] The future of centos

2015-04-04 Thread Valeri Galtsev
On Sat, April 4, 2015 11:46 am, Andrew Holway wrote: > In the context of this discussion I would appreciate any feedback the list > might have on this article I wrote for my new company. > > http://otternetworks.de/tech/rhel-centos-brief/ Once you asked for comments, here it goes: You are saying

Re: [CentOS] systemctl (again)

2015-04-04 Thread Jonathan Billings
On April 4, 2015 12:14:08 PM EDT, Pete Travis wrote: >On Apr 4, 2015 7:55 AM, "J Martin Rushton" > >wrote: >> >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> Thanks Andrew. >> >> One more problem solved, as I discovered last thing yesterday there >> was a missing "[Install]". Using yo

Re: [CentOS] The future of centos

2015-04-04 Thread Andrew Holway
> > You seem to be overlooking Debian. Ubuntu (and many others) at some point > were "clones of Debian". One can argue Ubuntu stepped up (or aside) a lot > since. Still... > This is very true. Maybe I should say "yum based systems" and "apt based systems" but I did not want to turn it into a techn

Re: [CentOS] systemctl (again)

2015-04-04 Thread James Hogarth
On 4 April 2015 at 18:40, Jonathan Billings wrote: > > > On April 4, 2015 12:14:08 PM EDT, Pete Travis wrote: >>On Apr 4, 2015 7:55 AM, "J Martin Rushton" >> >>wrote: >>> >>> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >>> Hash: SHA1 >>> >>> Thanks Andrew. >>> >>> One more problem solved, as I discovered

Re: [CentOS] The future of centos

2015-04-04 Thread James B. Byrne
On Fri, April 3, 2015 22:54, Always Learning wrote: > > On Fri, 2015-04-03 at 22:47 -0400, Digimer wrote: > >> No, people are speculating about the future of CentOS. > > . . . > The future is certain. To benefit from this free operating system, > tolerate the RH control and desire to ensure Centos

Re: [CentOS] systemctl (SOLVED)

2015-04-04 Thread J Martin Rushton
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 >> The process exited, so systemd thinks the service has exited. >> You have a '-D' option, which probably means daemonize, but you >> haven't set an appropriate Type declaration in the service file. >> >> If the service offers it, the best way to

Re: [CentOS] systemctl (again)

2015-04-04 Thread J Martin Rushton
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 > > This would be better served as the following to accomplish the > immediate goal: > > cat > /etc/systemd/system/timidity.service < Description=timidity daemon > > [Service] User=jmr Group=users WorkingDirectory=/home/jmr > Type=forking ExecStar

[CentOS] Mysterious ICMP timeout?

2015-04-04 Thread James B. Byrne
I am looking at these sorts of things as well: IN=eth0 OUT=eth1 SRC=129.250.200.121 DST=x.y.z.56 LEN=96 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=243 ID=32285 PROTO=ICMP TYPE=11 CODE=0 [SRC=x.y.z.56 DST=88.198.155.41 LEN=28 TOS=0x10 PREC=0x60 TTL=1 ID=1968 PROTO=UDP SPT=50131 DPT=6528 LEN=8 ] x.y.z.56 is a disuse

[CentOS] Access Problem after update to CentOS 7.1

2015-04-04 Thread Gregory P. Ennis
Everyone, This morning I did a manual yum update on our a mail server to 7.1 without any incident or problems. A new kernel was installed, and I rebooted after the update. When I rebooted the machine I could not gain ssh access to it from an external ip address. I was able to ssh to this mail

Re: [CentOS] Some subscribers posts to the list ending up in Gmail spam

2015-04-04 Thread Nataraj
On 04/04/2015 09:59 AM, Andrew Holway wrote: > Did we work out the technical reason why some users that post to the list > are getting dumped into gmail spam? > > Ta, > > Andrew > ___ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS@centos.org > http://lists.centos.org/mai

Re: [CentOS] systemctl (SOLVED)

2015-04-04 Thread Jonathan Billings
On Apr 4, 2015, at 3:45 PM, J Martin Rushton wrote: > 2)/etc/systemd/user is borked in my version of CentOS: systemctl > doesn't read files from there. It does. If you use systemctl --user. But you're not using the userspace systemd to run this, you're running the system systemd, so there

Re: [CentOS] systemctl (again)

2015-04-04 Thread Jonathan Billings
On Apr 4, 2015, at 4:08 PM, J Martin Rushton wrote: >> This is a quite messy though as you're running a 'system service' >> in the context of a regular user you were better off doing >> this within the user space as you started with. > > It's getting rather windozy though if proper backgroun

Re: [CentOS] The future of centos

2015-04-04 Thread dE
On 04/04/15 07:16, Always Learning wrote: On Fri, 2015-04-03 at 21:30 -0400, Digimer wrote: If you and others believe this to be the case, then form an organization and fork CentOS. Or, do as CentOS did in the beginning and recompile the RHEL binaries to be binary-compatible and create your ow

Re: [CentOS] The future of centos

2015-04-04 Thread John R Pierce
On 4/4/2015 8:10 PM, dE wrote: If you guys have that much of a problem with CentOS/RedHat collaboration, why not just move on things like Debian, arch, Suse etc... they just like to whine. -- john r pierce, recycling bits in santa cruz ___ Cent