Re: [CentOS] fcitx-anthy request (for Japanese users)

2017-08-02 Thread Scott Robbins
On Wed, Aug 02, 2017 at 08:15:58PM -0400, H wrote: > On 08/02/2017 09:46 AM, Scott Robbins wrote: > > On Wed, Aug 02, 2017 at 09:37:06AM -0400, H wrote: > > > > Ah, also, in my .xinitrc (I boot into text mode then run startx I have, > > > > above the line calling the window manager > > > > > >

Re: [CentOS] fcitx-anthy request (for Japanese users)

2017-08-02 Thread H
On 08/02/2017 09:46 AM, Scott Robbins wrote: On Wed, Aug 02, 2017 at 09:37:06AM -0400, H wrote: Ah, also, in my .xinitrc (I boot into text mode then run startx I have, above the line calling the window manager export LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8 Do you have fcitx-gtk2 and fcitx-gtk3 installed? I

Re: [CentOS] What RH-like on a Dell XPS 15 (9590)?

2017-08-02 Thread Mike McCarthy, W1NR
On 08/02/2017 10:55 AM, Lamar Owen wrote: > On 07/27/2017 04:16 PM, wwp wrote: >> ... >> It is as simple as unknown hardware at boot up, it's a well known issue >> w/ *Lake hardware (modern hardware) that kernel 3.x cannot handle. >> CentOS7 has a kernel which is simply not modern, unable to

Re: [CentOS] What RH-like on a Dell XPS 15 (9590)?

2017-08-02 Thread m . roth
Johnny Hughes wrote: > On 08/02/2017 09:55 AM, Lamar Owen wrote: >> On 07/27/2017 04:16 PM, wwp wrote: >>> ... >>> It is as simple as unknown hardware at boot up, it's a well known issue >>> w/ *Lake hardware (modern hardware) that kernel 3.x cannot handle. >>> CentOS7 has a kernel which is simply

[CentOS] Centos7 System Storage Manager: Device /dev/sdc not found

2017-08-02 Thread johan . vermeulen7
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Re: [CentOS] What RH-like on a Dell XPS 15 (9590)?

2017-08-02 Thread Phil Perry
On 02/08/17 16:18, Johnny Hughes wrote: On 08/02/2017 09:55 AM, Lamar Owen wrote: On 07/27/2017 04:16 PM, wwp wrote: ... It is as simple as unknown hardware at boot up, it's a well known issue w/ *Lake hardware (modern hardware) that kernel 3.x cannot handle. CentOS7 has a kernel which is

Re: [CentOS] What RH-like on a Dell XPS 15 (9590)?

2017-08-02 Thread wwp
Hello, On Wed, 2 Aug 2017 10:55:14 -0400 Lamar Owen wrote: > On 07/27/2017 04:16 PM, wwp wrote: > > ... > > It is as simple as unknown hardware at boot up, it's a well known issue > > w/ *Lake hardware (modern hardware) that kernel 3.x cannot handle. > > CentOS7 has a kernel

Re: [CentOS] Fedora bugs and EOL [was Re: CentOS users: please try and provide feedback on Fedora] Boltron

2017-08-02 Thread Mark Haney
On 08/02/2017 11:13 AM, John Hodrien wrote: On Wed, 2 Aug 2017, Mark Haney wrote: Sure there is such a thing. It's a tiled console package (tilix is what I use). In all honesty, I wouldn't want Libreoffice running in a container and I can't imagine why you'd want an xterm in its own

Re: [CentOS] Fedora bugs and EOL [was Re: CentOS users: please try and provide feedback on Fedora] Boltron

2017-08-02 Thread John Hodrien
On Wed, 2 Aug 2017, Mark Haney wrote: Sure there is such a thing. It's a tiled console package (tilix is what I use). In all honesty, I wouldn't want Libreoffice running in a container and I can't imagine why you'd want an xterm in its own container. Most containers I've built have been

Re: [CentOS] What RH-like on a Dell XPS 15 (9590)?

2017-08-02 Thread Johnny Hughes
On 08/02/2017 09:55 AM, Lamar Owen wrote: > On 07/27/2017 04:16 PM, wwp wrote: >> ... >> It is as simple as unknown hardware at boot up, it's a well known issue >> w/ *Lake hardware (modern hardware) that kernel 3.x cannot handle. >> CentOS7 has a kernel which is simply not modern, unable to

Re: [CentOS] Fedora bugs and EOL [was Re: CentOS users: please try and provide feedback on Fedora] Boltron

2017-08-02 Thread Mark Haney
On 08/02/2017 10:57 AM, hw wrote: It probably makes sense under the assumption that you do pretty much everything in one container or another and that it doesn´t bother you having to switch between all the containers to do something. That would require something like a window manager turned

Re: [CentOS] Fedora bugs and EOL [was Re: CentOS users: please try and provide feedback on Fedora] Boltron

2017-08-02 Thread hw
It probably makes sense under the assumption that you do pretty much everything in one container or another and that it doesn´t bother you having to switch between all the containers to do something. That would require something like a window manager turned into a container manager, and it goes

Re: [CentOS] What RH-like on a Dell XPS 15 (9590)?

2017-08-02 Thread Lamar Owen
On 07/27/2017 04:16 PM, wwp wrote: ... It is as simple as unknown hardware at boot up, it's a well known issue w/ *Lake hardware (modern hardware) that kernel 3.x cannot handle. CentOS7 has a kernel which is simply not modern, unable to handle lots of computers sold currently. That said, there

Re: [CentOS] CentOS SDR Support

2017-08-02 Thread Lamar Owen
On 07/19/2017 11:02 AM, Chris Olson wrote: We have been following up with regard to how SDR capabilities might be used for obtaining time using SDR dongles as well as using the time source product referenced in that response. ... One thing that we did not find was any reference at all to SDR

Re: [CentOS] Fedora bugs and EOL [was Re: CentOS users: please try and provide feedback on Fedora] Boltron

2017-08-02 Thread Johnny Hughes
On 08/02/2017 07:27 AM, hw wrote: > Jonathan Billings wrote: >> On Jul 28, 2017, at 1:56 PM, hw wrote: >>> Are you sure that all the added complexity and implicitly giving up a >>> stable platform by providing a mess of package versions is worth it? >>> How >>> are the plans about

Re: [CentOS] Fedora bugs and EOL [was Re: CentOS users: please try and provide feedback on Fedora] Boltron

2017-08-02 Thread Matthew Miller
On Wed, Aug 02, 2017 at 03:40:42PM +0200, hw wrote: > >No, this isn't it it all. Modules are sets of packages which the > >distribution creators have selected to work together; you don't compose > >modules as an end-user. > > Then maybe my understanding of packages and/or modules is wrong. > What

Re: [CentOS] Fedora bugs and EOL [was Re: CentOS users: please try and provide feedback on Fedora] Boltron

2017-08-02 Thread hw
Warren Young wrote: On Jul 28, 2017, at 11:56 AM, hw wrote: Matthew Miller wrote: On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 06:13:42PM +0200, hw wrote: What?s the point of doing this with Fedora? It?s not like bugs were fixed before Fedora is EOL and all reports are forgotten. Many bugs are

Re: [CentOS] fcitx-anthy request (for Japanese users)

2017-08-02 Thread Scott Robbins
On Wed, Aug 02, 2017 at 09:37:06AM -0400, H wrote: > > > >Ah, also, in my .xinitrc (I boot into text mode then run startx I have, > >above the line calling the window manager > > > >export LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8 > > > >Do you have fcitx-gtk2 and fcitx-gtk3 installed? > >I repeat, I'm not an expert

Re: [CentOS] Fedora bugs and EOL [was Re: CentOS users: please try and provide feedback on Fedora] Boltron

2017-08-02 Thread hw
Matthew Miller wrote: On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 07:56:41PM +0200, hw wrote: Sure is: You get to manage your distribution yourself by picking the versions of packages you figure might work together, which you are supposed and required to do with Gentoo, especially when you run into yet another

Re: [CentOS] fcitx-anthy request (for Japanese users)

2017-08-02 Thread H
On 08/01/2017 09:09 PM, Scott Robbins wrote: On Tue, Aug 01, 2017 at 08:55:22PM -0400, H wrote: Scott, I am back at this again. I am able to switch between Chinese and two western languages in terminal sessions but not in GUI applications such as LO, Thunderbird, Firefox... Only the default

Re: [CentOS] Fedora bugs and EOL [was Re: CentOS users: please try and provide feedback on Fedora] Boltron

2017-08-02 Thread Mark Haney
On 08/02/2017 08:27 AM, hw wrote: Jonathan Billings wrote: I’m confused, are you talking about Gentoo, Fedora, CentOS or RHEL? I´m talking about Centos here and am referring to experiences with other distributions at the same time. Like Gentoo is great but horrible to keep up to date, and

Re: [CentOS] Fedora bugs and EOL [was Re: CentOS users: please try and provide feedback on Fedora] Boltron

2017-08-02 Thread Matthew Miller
On Wed, Aug 02, 2017 at 02:04:54PM +0200, hw wrote: > Just wait and see how he will like the feedback he?s getting here ... Trolling aside (fascist? really?), I've gotten valuable feedback from several people which I really appreciate. I intend to continue to engage with the CentOS community,

Re: [CentOS] Fedora bugs and EOL [was Re: CentOS users: please try and provide feedback on Fedora] Boltron

2017-08-02 Thread Scott Robbins
On Wed, Aug 02, 2017 at 01:18:39PM +0100, John Hodrien wrote: > On Wed, 2 Aug 2017, hw wrote: > > > That?s what I thought, and it may still be true. Unfortunately, feedback, > > bug reports and even fixes and improvements experience so much unkindness > > or ignorance in their reception that I?m

Re: [CentOS] Fedora bugs and EOL [was Re: CentOS users: please try and provide feedback on Fedora] Boltron

2017-08-02 Thread hw
Jonathan Billings wrote: On Jul 28, 2017, at 1:56 PM, hw wrote: Are you sure that all the added complexity and implicitly giving up a stable platform by providing a mess of package versions is worth it? How are the plans about dealing with bug reports, say, for squid 2.7, for

Re: [CentOS] Fedora bugs and EOL [was Re: CentOS users: please try and provide feedback on Fedora] Boltron

2017-08-02 Thread John Hodrien
On Wed, 2 Aug 2017, hw wrote: That?s what I thought, and it may still be true. Unfortunately, feedback, bug reports and even fixes and improvements experience so much unkindness or ignorance in their reception that I?m better off finding a different solution or fixing the bug myself, with very

Re: [CentOS] Fedora bugs and EOL [was Re: CentOS users: please try and provide feedback on Fedora] Boltron

2017-08-02 Thread hw
Jonathan Billings wrote: On Jul 28, 2017, at 1:56 PM, hw wrote: Many bugs are fixed in Fedora. Many more bugs are fixed in the upstreams. Please remember that Fedora is primarily an *integration* project, and the best way to get bugs fixed is for the developers of the code in

Re: [CentOS] Fedora bugs and EOL [was Re: CentOS users: please try and provide feedback on Fedora] Boltron

2017-08-02 Thread Mark Haney
On 08/02/2017 07:36 AM, hw wrote: Don´t get me started on Fedora updates. One of the reasons to deprecate Fedora was that upgrading had turned out to be unreliable and mostly failing. Not being able to reliably upgrade disqualifies any distribution. I hate to break it to you, but since

Re: [CentOS] Fedora bugs and EOL [was Re: CentOS users: please try and provide feedback on Fedora] Boltron

2017-08-02 Thread hw
Johnny Hughes wrote: I personally have a Fedora machine that I keep updated and do some work on all the time learning/testing. I just seamlessly upgraded it from Fedora 25 to Fedora 26 using a couple of dnf commands .. awesome experience actually. Don´t get me started on Fedora updates. One

Re: [CentOS] Fedora bugs and EOL [was Re: CentOS users: please try and provide feedback on Fedora] Boltron

2017-08-02 Thread hw
Matthew Miller wrote: On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 10:11:53PM +0100, Phil Perry wrote: The issue I have here is even if I did file a bug, and the issue were fixed, no sooner than it's fixed fedora updates to the next version and introduces a whole bunch of new bugs, and so the cycle continues. I

Re: [CentOS] Fedora bugs and EOL [was Re: CentOS users: please try and provide feedback on Fedora] Boltron

2017-08-02 Thread hw
Phil Perry wrote: However, I´m seeing the same bugs from years ago still unfixed in Centos. That refers to libreoffice being unusably slow. This still doesn´t seem to be fixed for Fedora, either, because it went EOL --- but I don´t know. Agree on that. My previous 10 year old el5 install ran

Re: [CentOS] What RH-like on a Dell XPS 15 (9590)?

2017-08-02 Thread wwp
Hello Johnny, On Fri, 28 Jul 2017 13:47:14 -0500 Johnny Hughes wrote: > On 07/28/2017 11:32 AM, wwp wrote: > > Hello Johnny, > > > > > > On Fri, 28 Jul 2017 10:33:15 -0500 Johnny Hughes wrote: > > > > [snip] > >>> I've just succeeded in installing