Re: [CentOS] Centos versions in the future?

2021-04-27 Thread Gionatan Danti
Il 2021-04-27 15:05 J Martin Rushton via CentOS ha scritto: The traditional rebuild of RHEL will continue under other guises. There has been a long standing release at Springdale. Since RH's announcement Cloud have produced the Alma release. There is also a new project called Rocky that hasn't

Re: [CentOS] Centos versions in the future?

2021-04-27 Thread Matthew Miller
On Tue, Apr 27, 2021 at 11:24:40AM -0700, Gordon Messmer wrote: > Rawhide is a development (beta?) release.  I would love to get to the point where I feel comfortable saying that Fedora Rawhide is a perpetual beta. The current status is more like "perpetual alpha" — in fact, Fedora dropped our

Re: [CentOS] Centos versions in the future?

2021-04-27 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Carlos Oliva said: > Thank you for your response Martin. We should probably consider > moving to the alternatives that you mentioned or Ubuntu. Centos was > no longer a Community effort after RH was bought by a propriatory > company. The vast majority of open source software is

Re: [CentOS] Centos versions in the future?

2021-04-27 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 4/27/21 6:36 AM, Carlos Oliva wrote: I have heard that Stream is beta releases of RH -- rather distressing. Is this a proper characterization? No, I don't think so.  I think a better characterization would be: Rawhide is a development (beta?) release.  Fedora is a stable release. 

Re: [CentOS] Centos versions in the future?

2021-04-27 Thread Leon Fauster via CentOS
On 27.04.21 16:04, Carlos Oliva wrote: Thank you for your response Pete. I prefer to avoid working under the unbrela of propriatory companies. That is a conflicting statement. What would you then use these days without having a "entity" to back the service up? Anyway its OT ... Maybe this

Re: [CentOS] Centos versions in the future?

2021-04-27 Thread Valeri Galtsev
On 4/27/21 11:24 AM, Pete Biggs wrote: My comment was just to balance Pete's as the truth between Pete's statement and Carlos feelings is where I'm sure my comment pointed... Out of interest, do you think my statement is factually incorrect? If so, in what way? I guess I have to

Re: [CentOS] Centos versions in the future?

2021-04-27 Thread Pete Biggs
> > > > My comment was just to balance Pete's as the truth between Pete's > statement and Carlos feelings is where I'm sure my comment pointed...  > Out of interest, do you think my statement is factually incorrect? If so, in what way? P. ___

Re: [CentOS] Centos versions in the future?

2021-04-27 Thread Valeri Galtsev
On 4/27/21 10:32 AM, Johnny Hughes wrote: On 4/27/21 9:29 AM, Valeri Galtsev wrote: On 4/27/21 8:55 AM, Pete Biggs wrote: On Tue, 2021-04-27 at 09:36 -0400, Carlos Oliva wrote: Thank you for your response Rich. I have heard that Stream is beta releases of RH -- rather distressing. Is this

Re: [CentOS] Centos versions in the future?

2021-04-27 Thread Johnny Hughes
On 4/27/21 9:29 AM, Valeri Galtsev wrote: > > > On 4/27/21 8:55 AM, Pete Biggs wrote: >> On Tue, 2021-04-27 at 09:36 -0400, Carlos Oliva wrote: >>> Thank you for your response Rich. I have heard that Stream is beta >>> releases of RH -- rather distressing. Is this a proper characterization? >>>

Re: [CentOS] Centos versions in the future?

2021-04-27 Thread Valeri Galtsev
On 4/27/21 8:55 AM, Pete Biggs wrote: On Tue, 2021-04-27 at 09:36 -0400, Carlos Oliva wrote: Thank you for your response Rich. I have heard that Stream is beta releases of RH -- rather distressing. Is this a proper characterization? You heard wrong. Stream is effectively a rolling early

Re: [CentOS] Centos versions in the future?

2021-04-27 Thread Valeri Galtsev
On 4/27/21 8:39 AM, Carlos Oliva wrote: Thank you for your response Martin. We should probably consider moving to the alternatives that you mentioned or Ubuntu. Centos was no longer a Community effort after RH was bought by a propriatory company. "Proprietary company" sounds like a

Re: [CentOS] Centos versions in the future?

2021-04-27 Thread Carlos Oliva
Thank you for your response Pete. I prefer to avoid working under the unbrela of propriatory companies. On 4/27/2021 9:55 AM, Pete Biggs wrote: On Tue, 2021-04-27 at 09:36 -0400, Carlos Oliva wrote: Thank you for your response Rich. I have heard that Stream is beta releases of RH -- rather

Re: [CentOS] Centos versions in the future?

2021-04-27 Thread Rich Bowen
On 4/27/21 9:36 AM, Carlos Oliva wrote: Thank you for your response Rich. I have heard that Stream is beta releases of RH -- rather distressing. Is this a proper characterization? No, it is not a "beta". That said, getting people to stop saying that has been unproductive. Mostly,

Re: [CentOS] Centos versions in the future?

2021-04-27 Thread Pete Biggs
On Tue, 2021-04-27 at 09:36 -0400, Carlos Oliva wrote: > Thank you for your response Rich. I have heard that Stream is beta > releases of RH -- rather distressing. Is this a proper characterization? > You heard wrong. Stream is effectively a rolling early release of the next point release of

Re: [CentOS] Centos versions in the future?

2021-04-27 Thread Carlos Oliva
Thank you for your response Martin. We should probably consider moving to the alternatives that you mentioned or Ubuntu. Centos was no longer a Community effort after RH was bought by a propriatory company. On 4/27/2021 9:05 AM, J Martin Rushton via CentOS wrote: Not just rumours.  CentOS 8

Re: [CentOS] Centos versions in the future?

2021-04-27 Thread Carlos Oliva
Thank you for your response Rich. I have heard that Stream is beta releases of RH -- rather distressing. Is this a proper characterization? On 4/27/2021 9:02 AM, Rich Bowen wrote: On 4/27/21 8:46 AM, Carlos Oliva wrote: Will there be newer versions of Centos? We have heard rumors that

Re: [CentOS] Centos versions in the future?

2021-04-27 Thread J Martin Rushton via CentOS
Not just rumours. CentOS 8 dies at the end of this year. CentOS 7 has until the end of 2024. RH are introducing "CentOS Stream" which is what will be in RHEL in the next release. It has been unkindly referred to as beta software. The traditional rebuild of RHEL will continue under other

Re: [CentOS] Centos versions in the future?

2021-04-27 Thread Rich Bowen
On 4/27/21 8:46 AM, Carlos Oliva wrote: Will there be newer versions of Centos? We have heard rumors that version 8 will be the last one. We are concerned with using an OS that will loose support in the future. Thank you. We will continue to produce CentOS Stream for the foreseeable

[CentOS] Centos versions in the future?

2021-04-27 Thread Carlos Oliva
Will there be newer versions of Centos? We have heard rumors that version 8 will be the last one. We are concerned with using an OS that will loose support in the future. Thank you. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org

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[CentOS] World clocks on CentOS 8?

2021-04-27 Thread Mathieu Baudier
Hello, I am using CentOS 8 Streams + GNOME, and I cannot find the world clocks anymore (in order to add various cities and their current time). It used to be under the calendar, when one clicks on the time on the top bar. I cannot launch 'gnome-clocks' from the command line, and package search