Fantastic news!
CentOS and RHEL have been mutually beneficial projects for years. As a
user of both, I am extremely happy to see the ties grow between the
communities.
digimer
On 07/01/14 04:09 PM, Karanbir Singh wrote:
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> With great excitemen
> On 07/01/14 04:09 PM, Karanbir Singh wrote:
> >
> > - - Because we are now able to work with the Red Hat legal teams, some
> > of the contraints that resulted in efforts like CentOS-QA being behind
> > closed doors, now go away and we hope to have the entire build, test,
> > and delivery chain op
Dne 7.1.2014 22:09, Karanbir Singh napsal(a):
> With great excitement I'd like to announce that we are joining the Red
> Hat family. The CentOS Project ( http://www.centos.org ) is joining
> forces with Red Hat. Working as part of the Open Source and Standards
> team ( http://community.redhat.com/
That is amazing news, I hope this proves to be a great relationship.
Congratulations, looking forward to the future.
Aly
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On Tue, 2014-01-07 at 21:09 +, Karanbir Singh wrote:
> With great excitement I'd like to announce that we are joining the Red
> Hat family. The CentOS Project ( http://www.centos.org ) is joining
> forces with Red Hat. Working as part of the Open Source and Standards
> team ( http://communit
> With great excitement I'd like to announce that we are joining the Red
> Hat family. The CentOS Project ( http://www.centos.org ) is joining
> forces with Red Hat. Working as part of the Open Source and Standards
> team ( http://community.redhat.com/ ) to foster rapid innovation
> beyond the plat
On Tue, 2014-01-07 at 21:09 +, Karanbir Singh wrote:
> With great excitement I'd like to announce that we are joining the Red
> Hat family. The CentOS Project ( http://www.centos.org ) is joining
> forces with Red Hat. Working as part of the Open Source and Standards
> team ( http://community
On Wed, Jan 08, 2014 at 01:04:29AM +, Always Learning wrote:
> The compulsory imposition of USA law on all Centos downloaders creates
> the possibility of being arrested in one's home country and sent to the
[...]
> Can anyone remember seeing this on the old Centos ?
> By downloading Cen
On Tue, 2014-01-07 at 20:14 -0500, Stephen Harris wrote:
> If the software was
> subject to EAR then it was subject to it regardless of a web page
> stating it.
[EAR = USA's Export Administration Regulations]
How would a mere downloader from a mirror, or a purchaser of a Centos
disk or even a
On 07/01/14 08:27 PM, Always Learning wrote:
>
> On Tue, 2014-01-07 at 20:14 -0500, Stephen Harris wrote:
>
>>If the software was
>> subject to EAR then it was subject to it regardless of a web page
>> stating it.
>
> [EAR = USA's Export Administration Regulations]
>
> How would a mere download
On Wed, Jan 08, 2014 at 01:27:49AM +, Always Learning wrote:
>
> On Tue, 2014-01-07 at 20:14 -0500, Stephen Harris wrote:
>
> > If the software was
> > subject to EAR then it was subject to it regardless of a web page
> > stating it.
>
> [EAR = USA's Export Administration Regulations]
>
>
On Wednesday, January 08, 2014 05:14 AM, Digimer wrote:
> Fantastic news!
>
> CentOS and RHEL have been mutually beneficial projects for years. As a
> user of both, I am extremely happy to see the ties grow between the
> communities.
>
> digimer
>
Centos for the desktop! RHEL for the backend! Okay
On 01/07/2014 07:21 PM, Always Learning wrote:
> I'm patiently waiting for Centos on my Cube (Android) tablet.
What ARM ver? Is there Fedora for it? This takes lots of time, but f20
works on a lot of ARMv7 units. Now what ver of RH will that map into? :)
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On 1/7/2014 8:04 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
> On 01/07/2014 07:21 PM, Always Learning wrote:
>> >I'm patiently waiting for Centos on my Cube (Android) tablet.
> What ARM ver? Is there Fedora for it? This takes lots of time, but f20
> works on a lot of ARMv7 units. Now what ver of RH will that m
On 01/07/2014 08:38 PM, Stephen Harris wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 08, 2014 at 01:27:49AM +, Always Learning wrote:
>> On Tue, 2014-01-07 at 20:14 -0500, Stephen Harris wrote:
>>
>>>If the software was
>>> subject to EAR then it was subject to it regardless of a web page
>>> stating it.
>> [EAR =
On 01/07/2014 11:11 PM, John R Pierce wrote:
> On 1/7/2014 8:04 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
>> On 01/07/2014 07:21 PM, Always Learning wrote:
I'm patiently waiting for Centos on my Cube (Android) tablet.
>> What ARM ver? Is there Fedora for it? This takes lots of time, but f20
>> works on a
> -Original Message-
> From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On
> Behalf Of Yves Bellefeuille
> Sent: den 8 januari 2014 01:36
> To: centos@centos.org
> Subject: Re: [CentOS] [CentOS-announce] CentOS Project joins forces with Red
>
On 01/08/2014 09:14 PM, Sorin Srbu wrote:
>> Behalf Of Yves Bellefeuille
>> Sent: den 8 januari 2014 01:36
>>
>> Wow. I'm not entirely sure this is good news. We'll see.
>
> My first thought as well. Redhat already has Fedora as a testing ground. So
> for Redhat acquiring another free distributio
On Tuesday, January 7, 2014, Karanbir Singh wrote:
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> With great excitement I'd like to announce that we are joining the Red
> Hat family. The CentOS Project ( http://www.centos.org ) is joining
> forces with Red Hat.
Great news guys, well done.
On 01/08/2014 02:14 AM, Sorin Srbu wrote:
>> -Original Message-
>> From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On
>> Behalf Of Yves Bellefeuille
>> Sent: den 8 januari 2014 01:36
>> To: centos@centos.org
>> Subject: Re: [CentOS] [C
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>>> To: centos@centos.org
>>> Subject: Re: [CentOS] [CentOS-announce] CentOS Project joins forces with Red
>>> Hat
>>>
>>>> With great excitement I'd like to announce that we are joining the Red
>>>> Hat family. The CentOS Proje
> -Original Message-
> From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On
> Behalf Of Johnny Hughes
> Sent: den 8 januari 2014 11:54
> To: centos@centos.org
> Subject: Re: [CentOS] [CentOS-announce] CentOS Project joins forces with Red
> Hat
>
>
Le 08/01/2014 11:54, Johnny Hughes a écrit :
> Red Hat wants their paid platforms to continue to be successful, they
> therefore want their community projects to be successful.
I am a little bit dubious about that. Why would they sell RHEL, and give
away the same thing, CentOS, just recompiled fr
Hello Alain,
On Wed, Jan 08, 2014 at 01:57:54PM +0100, Alain Péan wrote:
> Le 08/01/2014 11:54, Johnny Hughes a écrit :
> > Red Hat wants their paid platforms to continue to be successful, they
> > therefore want their community projects to be successful.
>
> I am a little bit dubious about that.
Le 08/01/2014 14:54, Reindl Harald a écrit :
> *which independence*??
>
> CentOS is a*bug for bug* indentical rebuild of RHEL
> you will never face*any* change or bugfix in CentOS
> which is not done in the same RHEL package
>
> so about*what* independance are you talking about?
For example
...@centos.org] Im Auftrag
von Alain Péan
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 8. Januar 2014 15:00
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Hat
Le 08/01/2014 14:54, Reindl Harald a écrit :
> *which independence*??
>
> CentOS is a*bug for bug* i
Le 08/01/2014 15:01, Thomas Göttgens a écrit :
> They do that right now.
>
> - CentOS Plus-Kernel
> - CentOS Extras
> - Xen4CentOS
Is RHEL interested by Xen ? In RHEL 6, there is no more Xen support,
only KVM. This is the motivation for the Xen4CentOS project...
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t least in that FAQ) ;-)
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Hat
Le 0
On 01/08/2014 09:19 AM, Thomas Göttgens wrote:
> Is there Xen Support in Fedora?
>
> You're completely missing the point here. Redhat ist not going to influence
> the direction centos is going, but merely saying it will advocate
> 'variations' of centos, i.e. additional package sets much like Xen4
On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 8:01 AM, Thomas Göttgens wrote:
> They do that right now.
>
> - CentOS Plus-Kernel
> - CentOS Extras
> - Xen4CentOS
>
> Are all NOT upstream but CentOS original projects. Read the part about SIG
> in the FAQ and you know what this will eventually become.
I hope the 'centos
On 01/08/2014 10:16 AM, Les Mikesell wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 8:01 AM, Thomas Göttgens wrote:
>> They do that right now.
>>
>> - CentOS Plus-Kernel
>> - CentOS Extras
>> - Xen4CentOS
>>
>> Are all NOT upstream but CentOS original projects. Read the part about SIG
>> in the FAQ and you know
On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 4:54 AM, Johnny Hughes wrote:
>
> Is Red Hat in business to make money ... of course they are. Does Red
> Hat make more money or less money if their community projects do well?
> Of course they make more money if more people use their community
> projects. Red Hat wants Ce
On 1/8/2014 01:14, Sorin Srbu wrote:
>
> Redhat already has Fedora as a testing ground.
True, but Fedora is a bleeding-edge Linux, while CentOS is a stable
Linux. Both have their place.
Red Hat knows there are pieces of the Linux market it will never be able
to grab significant share in. Low-
Warren Young wrote:
> On 1/8/2014 01:14, Sorin Srbu wrote:
>>
>> Redhat already has Fedora as a testing ground.
>
> True, but Fedora is a bleeding-edge Linux, while CentOS is a stable
> Linux. Both have their place.
1++ (and boy, do I *hate* bleeding edge)
>
> I think that's the real reason Red
On 01/08/2014 03:01 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
> Warren Young wrote:
>> On 1/8/2014 01:14, Sorin Srbu wrote:
>>> Redhat already has Fedora as a testing ground.
>> True, but Fedora is a bleeding-edge Linux, while CentOS is a stable
>> Linux. Both have their place.
> 1++ (and boy, do I *hate* blee
On 01/09/2014 09:01 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
> Warren Young wrote:
>>
>> This is a good thing.
>
> If that's it, I agree. We'll just have to see how it all plays out.
I can think of 101 different reasons as to why this move is good for
RedHat, and no reason why them picking up CentOS only to k
On 1/8/2014 12:23 PM, Peter wrote:
> If this were to
> happen then CentOS would be no worse off than it was before the move to
> RedHat in the first place.
well, it would find itself having to scramble to reestablish independent
infrastructure.
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Robert Moskowitz wrote:
>
> On 01/08/2014 03:01 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
>> Warren Young wrote:
>>> On 1/8/2014 01:14, Sorin Srbu wrote:
Redhat already has Fedora as a testing ground.
>>> True, but Fedora is a bleeding-edge Linux, while CentOS is a stable
>>> Linux. Both have their place.
On 01/08/2014 04:37 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
> Robert Moskowitz wrote:
>> On 01/08/2014 03:01 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
>>> Warren Young wrote:
On 1/8/2014 01:14, Sorin Srbu wrote:
> Redhat already has Fedora as a testing ground.
True, but Fedora is a bleeding-edge Linux, while
This is great news!! Congrats and thanks to everyone that has put in all
the hard work to make this a great environment.
Michael Weiner
On Tue, Jan 7, 2014 at 4:09 PM, Karanbir Singh wrote:
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On 08-01-2014 3:04, Always Learning wrote:
> On Tue, 2014-01-07 at 21:09 +, Karanbir Singh wrote:
>
>> With great excitement I'd like to announce that we are joining the Red
>> Hat family. The CentOS Project ( http://www.centos.org ) is joining
>> forces with Red Hat. Working as part of the Op
On 01/13/2014 09:14 AM, Andreas Kasenides wrote:
> Apparently nto all is well with the take-over.
> Here is an example. Should I stop mirroring CentOS in the fear of being
> arrested next time a I visit the US on vacation?
>
I dont understand your question or statement, what are you saying here ?
Am 17.01.2014 um 01:18 schrieb Karanbir Singh :
> On 01/13/2014 09:14 AM, Andreas Kasenides wrote:
>> Apparently nto all is well with the take-over.
>> Here is an example. Should I stop mirroring CentOS in the fear of being
>> arrested next time a I visit the US on vacation?
>>
>
> I dont under
On 08.01.2014 01:04, Always Learning wrote:
> On Tue, 2014-01-07 at 21:09 +, Karanbir Singh wrote:
>
>> With great excitement I'd like to announce that we are joining the
>> Red
>> Hat family. The CentOS Project ( http://www.centos.org ) is joining
>> forces with Red Hat. Working as part of t
If I recall this was about a CentOS mirror in Iran and the new export
restrictions prohibit that.
Joe
On Fri, 2014-01-17 at 00:18 +, Karanbir Singh wrote:
> On 01/13/2014 09:14 AM, Andreas Kasenides wrote:
> > Apparently nto all is well with the take-over.
> > Here is an example. Should I sto
On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 10:00:39PM -0500, Joseph Godino wrote:
> If I recall this was about a CentOS mirror in Iran and the new export
> restrictions prohibit that.
There are no *new* export restrictions. You're just now aware of them.
It's the US gubmint that puts those restrictions, not RedHat,
I say "new" because the original email referred to what I believe was
about an existing CentOS mirror in Iran. This prompted me to look at the
CentOS website and I found the export restrictions to which the email
was referring. Then I looked at the Fedora project website and found the
same restrict
On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 10:29:09PM -0500, Joseph Godino wrote:
> stating and what it was referring to. Please retract the word new.
That's the point though. If "you" (for generic values of "you") export
code under US legal restriction from the US then you're in breach of
US regulations. Whether
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On 01/16/2014 09:14 PM, Nux! wrote:
> On 08.01.2014 01:04, Always Learning wrote:
>> On Tue, 2014-01-07 at 21:09 +, Karanbir Singh wrote:
>>
>>> With great excitement I'd like to announce that we are joining the
>>> Red
>>> Hat family. The CentOS Project ( http://www.centos.org ) is joining
>>
On 01/16/2014 10:45 PM, Stephen Harris wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 10:29:09PM -0500, Joseph Godino wrote:
>> stating and what it was referring to. Please retract the word new.
> That's the point though. If "you" (for generic values of "you") export
> code under US legal restriction from the
On Fri, 2014-01-17 at 08:04 -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
> The only exception in the treaty is cryptographic academic papers
> (how
> we got pgpv3 exported, in book form); but even this got challenged
> because of the pgp export.
Still have the sources and Windoze binaries from PGP 2. Those
On Fri, 2014-01-17 at 08:04 -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
> The only exception in the treaty is cryptographic academic papers (how
> we got pgpv3 exported, in book form); but even this got challenged
> because of the pgp export.
I really mean
Still have the sources and M$ DOS binaries
I see you haven't read announcements and explanations, or you haven't
understood them.
On 01/17/2014 10:14 AM, IonPacepa wrote:
> I have found at times the community to CentOS-leadership relations to be
> quite poor.
>
> I have witnessed the summary judgements against people like Dag Wieers
> dri
On Fri, 2014-01-17 at 15:59 +0100, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote:
> Every one of "you", unhappy ones, could have created your own rebuild,
> you could have also teamed up and found sponsors
> from all those unhappy community members you say exist
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On 01/17/2014 04:35 PM, Always Learning wrote:
>
>> (Love is in the Air)
>
> Great to see you are still in love - she must be very special :-)
>
Actually, "Ljubo" in both my first and last name means closely to
someone who loves, kisses someone. Ljubomir means "one who loves/kisses
peace (peace =
On 01/17/2014 05:05 PM, IonPacepa wrote:
> "You ARE aware that RepoForge is forzen solid because Dag Wieers does not
> want to release control to others but has no time to build packages ready
> for build"
>
> There is quite a bit of open-source surrounding rpmforge and rpmforge
> doesn't have the
IonPacepa wrote:
> "Every one of "you", unhappy ones, could have created your own rebuild, "
>
> A lot of Redhat rebuild projects gave up their very existence to support a
> single CentOS.
>
> Not giving up the secret sauce is about control and power in the hand of a
> few that have now financially
On 01/17/2014 05:03 PM, IonPacepa wrote:
> "Every one of "you", unhappy ones, could have created your own rebuild,"
>
> A lot of Redhat rebuild projects gave up their very existence to support a
> single CentOS.
>
> Not giving up the secret sauce is about control and power in the hand of a
> few th
On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 05:55:54PM +0100, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote:
>
> Ok, what ever, I am done wasting time on you.
Excellent. Now if others would stop responding to the trolls it would
be even better.
John
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On 01/17/2014 05:57 PM, John R. Dennison wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 05:55:54PM +0100, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote:
>>
>> Ok, what ever, I am done wasting time on you.
>
> Excellent. Now if others would stop responding to the trolls it would
> be even better.
>
Sorry, I saw other troll e-mails
On 01/17/2014 10:03 AM, IonPacepa wrote:
> "Every one of "you", unhappy ones, could have created your own rebuild, "
>
> A lot of Redhat rebuild projects gave up their very existence to support a
> single CentOS.
>
> Not giving up the secret sauce is about control and power in the hand of a
> fe
On 17/01/14 11:12 AM, IonPacepa wrote:
> I view this as a takeover. I view this as a few who kept how to rebuild RHEL
> a state secret benefiting financially. I don't see how a community benefits
> when we cannot recreate for ourselves what is being done here. I don't see
> how we benefit when a la
On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 11:34 AM, Jim Perrin wrote:
> >
> What we didn't do was create a support mechanism to fracture the
> community every time someone got an idea. That seeks only to tear away
> at the community rather than to build it up.
Is that how you describe every other open source proje
John R. Dennison wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 05:55:54PM +0100, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote:
>>
>> Ok, what ever, I am done wasting time on you.
>
> Excellent. Now if others would stop responding to the trolls it would
> be even better.
>
Can't resist: I think he's trying to get our goat... and
On 01/17/2014 10:15 AM, IonPacepa wrote:
> "Essentially Red Hat is slowly taking over and developing/assisting
> Centos to be a more regular and structure organisation. The fact that
> Red Hat now owns the Centos brand worries me but that's life. Absolutely
> nothing remains static."
>
> Interestin
On Fri, 2014-01-17 at 13:53 -0600, Johnny Hughes wrote:
> What the heck are you talking about ... rpmbuild -ba .src.rpm
>
> It builds if you install the proper packages from the CentOS repos.
>
> Using mock and a CentOS Tree can reproduce CentOS just as easily.
>
> We are creating git.centos.o
On 1/17/2014 8:12 AM, IonPacepa wrote:
> don't see
> how we benefit when a large company comes in and buys their way into the
> board and pays off all members. Where is the Community's say in this? This
> is a payoff. Will we get releases sooner? Will we know how to rebuild the
> build environmen
On 1/17/2014 12:11, Les Mikesell wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 11:34 AM, Jim Perrin wrote:
>
>> Offering free RHEL would fracture and destroy several communities,
>
> I strongly disagree with that.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Linux_distributions
I count 115 Debian/Ubuntu variants.
On Fri, 17 Jan 2014, Digimer wrote:
> CentOS was never under any requirement to release their build methods.
> Whether that was a good or bad choice is not very relevant now.
I'd thought that the GPL's said differently.
>From a subsequennt post, I gather that there
is disagreement on whether Cent
On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 2:07 PM, Warren Young wrote:
>
> Anyway, if you want a wide-open Linux, Les, you know where to get it.
Sigh..., It's complicated. I want stability and reliable security
updates. But I don't like being dependent on any single entity to
provide that. Maybe that goes back
On 01/17/2014 10:12 AM, IonPacepa wrote:
> I view this as a takeover. I view this as a few who kept how to rebuild RHEL
> a state secret benefiting financially. I don't see how a community benefits
> when we cannot recreate for ourselves what is being done here. I don't see
> how we benefit when a
On 01/17/2014 01:57 PM, Always Learning wrote:
> On Fri, 2014-01-17 at 13:53 -0600, Johnny Hughes wrote:
>
>> What the heck are you talking about ... rpmbuild -ba .src.rpm
>>
>> It builds if you install the proper packages from the CentOS repos.
>>
>> Using mock and a CentOS Tree can reproduce Cent
On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 12:34 PM, Johnny Hughes wrote:
> Snip...
>
In summary, opinions are like ... well, you know the rest. Opinions are
a dime a dozen. Actions are relevant. Our actions show we want to
continue to provide the best OS in the world to the community AND we
want to also bring
On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 2:33 PM, Les Mikesell wrote:
> But, the bigger question is where it leaves us if
> they just decide to quit after assimilating most of the related
> systems under a build ecosystem that no one else can reproduce easily.
>
>
I don't expect that it would ever be necessary,
On 1/17/2014 13:33, Les Mikesell wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 2:07 PM, Warren Young wrote:
>>
>> Anyway, if you want a wide-open Linux, Les, you know where to get it.
>
> Sigh..., It's complicated. I want stability and reliable security
> updates. But I don't like being dependent on any sin
On 01/17/2014 09:33 PM, Les Mikesell wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 2:07 PM, Warren Young wrote:
> I don't really think the CentOS team has an evil plan here, but they
> should take it as a compliment that I think they are smart enough to
> fool me if they did want to do something like inject a
On 01/17/2014 02:33 PM, Les Mikesell wrote:
> But, the bigger question is where it leaves us if
> they just decide to quit after assimilating most of the related
> systems under a build ecosystem that no one else can reproduce easily.
Les,
http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-build-repo
On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 3:16 PM, Warren Young wrote:
>>
>> Sigh..., It's complicated. I want stability and reliable security
>> updates. But I don't like being dependent on any single entity to
>> provide that.
>
> You want your Linux to be under control, but not controlled. Is that it? :)
Co
On 01/17/2014 03:33 PM, Les Mikesell wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 2:07 PM, Warren Young wrote:
>> Anyway, if you want a wide-open Linux, Les, you know where to get it.
> Sigh..., It's complicated.
Complicated is a good word...
> But, the bigger question is where it leaves us if
> they just
On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 12:15 PM, Lamar Owen wrote:
>
> Complicated is a good word...
>
>> But, the bigger question is where it leaves us if
>> they just decide to quit after assimilating most of the related
>> systems under a build ecosystem that no one else can reproduce easily.
>>
> There is
On 01/18/2014 04:28 PM, Les Mikesell wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 12:15 PM, Lamar Owen wrote:
>> There is no secret sauce to the buildsystem. It's not like we're
>> converting TRS-80 Model II TRSDOS files to LS-DOS or anything here,
>> where things aren't well-documented or completely undocu
On 01/18/2014 04:28 PM, Les Mikesell wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 12:15 PM, Lamar Owen wrote:
>>
>> Anyway, the current work with seven.centos.org is a really good start.
> I hope someone manages an ARM build eventually. It would be fun to
> play with cheap hardware and reliable code.
My un
On 01/18/2014 06:16 PM, Lamar Owen wrote:
>
>> I hope someone manages an ARM build eventually. It would be fun to
>> play with cheap hardware and reliable code.
> Is the F19 ARM build workable? (I know there are graphics module
> issues). I might have to try that myself on my GuruPlug or one of
Red sleeve is an ARM port.
http://www.redsleeve.org
On Jan 18, 2014 3:28 PM, "Les Mikesell" wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 12:15 PM, Lamar Owen wrote:
> >
> > Complicated is a good word...
> >
> >> But, the bigger question is where it leaves us if
> >> they just decide to quit after assimila
On 01/18/2014 11:09 PM, David Carollo wrote:
> Red sleeve is an ARM port.
> http://www.redsleeve.org
Home page is static from back in '12, but I see mailing list has some
activity. I have a pogoplug that has f18 port on it, I will see if I can
get redsleeve on it. But won't be for a couple week
On 01/17/2014 03:33 PM, Les Mikesell wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 2:07 PM, Warren Young wrote:
>> Anyway, if you want a wide-open Linux, Les, you know where to get it.
> Sigh..., It's complicated. I want stability and reliable security
> updates. But I don't like being dependent on any sing
On 19/01/14 05:41, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote:
> On 01/17/2014 03:33 PM, Les Mikesell wrote:
>> On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 2:07 PM, Warren Young wrote:
>>> Anyway, if you want a wide-open Linux, Les, you know where to get it.
>> Sigh..., It's complicated. I want stability and reliable security
>>
On 01/19/2014 07:33 AM, Ned Slider wrote:
> On 19/01/14 05:41, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote:
>> On 01/17/2014 03:33 PM, Les Mikesell wrote:
>>> On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 2:07 PM, Warren Young wrote:
Anyway, if you want a wide-open Linux, Les, you know where to get it.
>>> Sigh..., It's complicat
Here is my take (just a CentOS user).
The communication from Red Hat/CentOS during this change has been somewhat
poor. By reading various blog posts, etc.. A lot of people are confused
about what this change actually means. When people read things like "CentOS
will allow Red Hat to innovate and te
On 1/19/2014 5:25 AM, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote:
> .(wonder if there are any CEntOS certification exams?.
No, since Redhat does not recommend CentOS for production
environments only
RHEL. More is mention in the FAQ:
http://community.redhat.com/centos-faq/#_centos_and_red_hat_ent
On 01/18/2014 10:12 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
> On 01/18/2014 06:16 PM, Lamar Owen wrote:
>>> I hope someone manages an ARM build eventually. It would be fun to
>>> play with cheap hardware and reliable code.
>> Is the F19 ARM build workable?
> Unfortunately forget any armv5s and pretty much thro
On 01/20/2014 08:56 AM, Lamar Owen wrote:
> On 01/18/2014 10:12 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
>> On 01/18/2014 06:16 PM, Lamar Owen wrote:
I hope someone manages an ARM build eventually. It would be fun to
play with cheap hardware and reliable code.
>>> Is the F19 ARM build workable?
>> Un
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