Re: [CentOS] [HW] Do the HDD cages in rack mount chassis indicate visual/audio HDD failure?

2011-10-19 Thread Lamar Owen
On Tuesday, October 18, 2011 01:07:02 PM Les Mikesell wrote: I don't think anything is immune to failure. Another fun case is a randomly-bad memory bit causing different things to be written to software raid mirrors. I had one that took 3+ days of running memtest86 to catch. ECC RAM?

Re: [CentOS] [HW] Do the HDD cages in rack mount chassis indicate visual/audio HDD failure?

2011-10-19 Thread Les Mikesell
On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 2:33 PM, Lamar Owen lo...@pari.edu wrote: On Tuesday, October 18, 2011 01:07:02 PM Les Mikesell wrote: I don't think anything is immune to failure.  Another fun case is a randomly-bad memory bit causing different things to be written to software raid mirrors.  I had one

Re: [CentOS] [HW] Do the HDD cages in rack mount chassis indicate visual/audio HDD failure?

2011-10-18 Thread Arun Khan
Hi Michael, On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 5:35 PM, Michael Schumacher wrote: On Tuesday, October 11, 2011 you wrote: I would appreciate clarification on the following: (a) Indicate disk failure. LED lights up and/or audio alarm? (b) The failed HDD can be swapped. Don't rely on the LED going

Re: [CentOS] [HW] Do the HDD cages in rack mount chassis indicate visual/audio HDD failure?

2011-10-18 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 10/11/2011 03:29 PM, Arun Khan wrote: Are the hot swap bays compatible with Linux mdadm RAID? i.e. Upon detection of disk failure, the respective HDD LED on the bay can be turned ON? no, not all are. Only a few work with mdadm ( or rather in a way that mdadm can work with them, even the

Re: [CentOS] [HW] Do the HDD cages in rack mount chassis indicate visual/audio HDD failure?

2011-10-18 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 10/18/2011 04:11 PM, Arun Khan wrote: You mean, it is not OK to pull out a functioning disk? Pulling one disk out of RAID 5 should be OK. Am I missing something? grab yourself a bunch of usb keys + a usb hub - fire up mdadm on your laptop and use those keys as target disks and see how

Re: [CentOS] [HW] Do the HDD cages in rack mount chassis indicate visual/audio HDD failure?

2011-10-18 Thread Les Mikesell
On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 10:11 AM, Arun Khan knu...@gmail.com wrote: I would appreciate clarification on the following: (a) Indicate disk failure. LED lights up and/or audio alarm? (b) The failed HDD can be swapped. Don't rely on the LED going on. I mark all my hot swap disks with labels

Re: [CentOS] [HW] Do the HDD cages in rack mount chassis indicate visual/audio HDD failure?

2011-10-18 Thread Arun Khan
On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 8:57 PM, Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 10:11 AM, Arun Khan knu...@gmail.com wrote: I pulled ONCE the wrong disk out of a Raid5 array. :-( You know what that means? You mean, it is not OK to pull out a functioning disk?  Pulling one

Re: [CentOS] [HW] Do the HDD cages in rack mount chassis indicate visual/audio HDD failure?

2011-10-18 Thread Arun Khan
On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 8:52 PM, Karanbir Singh mail-li...@karan.org wrote: Also, mdraid10 isnt the same as a normal raid-10, unless you meant to imply that you are doing a raid10 with md-raid tools. Yes, the plan is to create raid10 with the md tools. -- Arun Khan

Re: [CentOS] [HW] Do the HDD cages in rack mount chassis indicate visual/audio HDD failure?

2011-10-18 Thread Arun Khan
On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 8:55 PM, Karanbir Singh mail-li...@karan.org wrote: On 10/18/2011 04:11 PM, Arun Khan wrote: You mean, it is not OK to pull out a functioning disk?  Pulling one disk out of RAID 5 should be OK.  Am I missing something? grab yourself a bunch of usb keys +  a usb hub -

Re: [CentOS] [HW] Do the HDD cages in rack mount chassis indicate visual/audio HDD failure?

2011-10-18 Thread Les Mikesell
On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 11:05 AM, Arun Khan knu...@gmail.com wrote: btw, dont think that these issues dont affect hardware raid - they do. its just that the management for these things is slightly more abstracted away and the controllers are better integrated with the disk cages. About 10

Re: [CentOS] [HW] Do the HDD cages in rack mount chassis indicate visual/audio HDD failure?

2011-10-14 Thread Michael Schumacher
Dear Arun, On Tuesday, October 11, 2011 you wrote: I would appreciate clarification on the following: (a) Indicate disk failure. LED lights up and/or audio alarm? (b) The failed HDD can be swapped. Don't rely on the LED going on. I mark all my hot swap disks with labels with their serial

[CentOS] [HW] Do the HDD cages in rack mount chassis indicate visual/audio HDD failure?

2011-10-11 Thread Arun Khan
I have no personal experience with rack mount chassis. From the past postings, I reckon there are members, in this list, who have experience in rack mount setups and would like get their advice. To reduce the H/W cost, I am considering Linux mdadm RAID10 on a 2U chassis. I would appreciate

Re: [CentOS] [HW] Do the HDD cages in rack mount chassis indicate visual/audio HDD failure?

2011-10-11 Thread John R Pierce
On 10/11/11 12:11 AM, Arun Khan wrote: In rack mount chassis, do the cages that house the hard disks have the following feature? (a) Indicate disk failure. LED lights up and/or audio alarm? that requires specific configuration to suit whatever drive interconnect you have. (b) The failed

Re: [CentOS] [HW] Do the HDD cages in rack mount chassis indicate visual/audio HDD failure?

2011-10-11 Thread m . roth
John R Pierce wrote: On 10/11/11 12:11 AM, Arun Khan wrote: In rack mount chassis, do the cages that house the hard disks have the following feature? (a) Indicate disk failure. LED lights up and/or audio alarm? that requires specific configuration to suit whatever drive interconnect you

Re: [CentOS] [HW] Do the HDD cages in rack mount chassis indicate visual/audio HDD failure?

2011-10-11 Thread Arun Khan
On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 12:46 PM, John R Pierce pie...@hogranch.com wrote: On 10/11/11 12:11 AM, Arun Khan wrote: In rack mount chassis, do the cages that house the hard disks have the following feature? (a) Indicate disk failure. LED lights up and/or audio alarm? that requires specific

Re: [CentOS] [HW] Do the HDD cages in rack mount chassis indicate visual/audio HDD failure?

2011-10-11 Thread Arun Khan
On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 6:36 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: John R Pierce wrote: On 10/11/11 12:11 AM, Arun Khan wrote: In rack mount chassis, do the cages that house the hard disks have the following feature? (a) Indicate disk failure. LED lights up and/or audio alarm? that requires

Re: [CentOS] [HW] Do the HDD cages in rack mount chassis indicate visual/audio HDD failure?

2011-10-11 Thread m . roth
Arun Khan wrote: On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 12:46 PM, John R Pierce pie...@hogranch.com wrote: On 10/11/11 12:11 AM, Arun Khan wrote: In rack mount chassis, do the cages that house the hard disks have the following feature? snip Does these bays have a connector (+ cable) that is connected to

Re: [CentOS] [HW] Do the HDD cages in rack mount chassis indicate visual/audio HDD failure?

2011-10-11 Thread John R Pierce
On 10/11/11 7:29 AM, Arun Khan wrote: that requires specific configuration to suit whatever drive interconnect you have. Does these bays have a connector (+ cable) that is connected to the motherboard or RAID card to control the HDD LEDs in the bay? (sorry if this appears basic but I have