Re: [CentOS] Apache wakes-up inactive Exim

2014-09-29 Thread m . roth
Always Learning wrote: > > On Mon, 2014-09-29 at 15:27 -0400, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: > >> *Make* the time. It'll save your bacon. > > I will look for the book. An egg and crispy bacon sandwich would be > nice. Yup - British bacon may well be better than American (even when you can get American b

Re: [CentOS] Apache wakes-up inactive Exim

2014-09-29 Thread Always Learning
On Mon, 2014-09-29 at 15:27 -0400, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: > *Make* the time. It'll save your bacon. I will look for the book. An egg and crispy bacon sandwich would be nice. Regards, Paul. England, EU. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org ht

Re: [CentOS] Apache wakes-up inactive Exim

2014-09-29 Thread Les Mikesell
On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 2:23 PM, Always Learning wrote: > > >> If you really want to appreciate the concepts, you should find a unix >> manual from the days before X was included. Back then there were 5 >> sections where 1 covered the command line programs, 2 covered system >> calls, 3 the stand

Re: [CentOS] Apache wakes-up inactive Exim

2014-09-29 Thread m . roth
Always Learning wrote: > > On Mon, 2014-09-29 at 14:44 -0400, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: > >> Always Learning wrote: >> > On Mon, 2014-09-29 at 10:49 -0500, Les Mikesell wrote: >> >> On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 8:40 AM, Always Learning >> >> wrote: >> >> >> > Thanks. I learned something new today. >> >>

Re: [CentOS] Apache wakes-up inactive Exim

2014-09-29 Thread Always Learning
On Mon, 2014-09-29 at 14:03 -0500, Les Mikesell wrote: > On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 1:41 PM, Always Learning wrote: > > > >> > > >> > Thanks. I learned something new today. > >> > >> Not exactly... Applications that pipe to the sendmail command line > >> program to send messages go back to the dawn

Re: [CentOS] Apache wakes-up inactive Exim

2014-09-29 Thread Les Mikesell
On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 2:10 PM, Don O'Hara wrote: > > I second and third that recommendation. A great exercise is to use > that book as a foundation, and to realize that the “what to do” has not > changed > that much, but the “how to do it” changes hourly. Sigh... I'm rarely convinced that "how

Re: [CentOS] Apache wakes-up inactive Exim

2014-09-29 Thread Always Learning
On Mon, 2014-09-29 at 14:44 -0400, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: > Always Learning wrote: > > On Mon, 2014-09-29 at 10:49 -0500, Les Mikesell wrote: > >> On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 8:40 AM, Always Learning > >> wrote: > > >> > Thanks. I learned something new today. > >> > >> Not exactly... Applications

Re: [CentOS] Apache wakes-up inactive Exim

2014-09-29 Thread Don O'Hara
On Sep 29, 2014, at 14:44, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: > Always Learning wrote: >> On Mon, 2014-09-29 at 10:49 -0500, Les Mikesell wrote: >>> On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 8:40 AM, Always Learning >>> wrote: > Thanks. I learned something new today. >>> >>> Not exactly... Applications that pipe to

Re: [CentOS] Apache wakes-up inactive Exim

2014-09-29 Thread Les Mikesell
On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 1:41 PM, Always Learning wrote: > >> > >> > Thanks. I learned something new today. >> >> Not exactly... Applications that pipe to the sendmail command line >> program to send messages go back to the dawn of email. MTAs that >> replace the 'real' sendmail pretty much have

Re: [CentOS] Apache wakes-up inactive Exim

2014-09-29 Thread m . roth
Always Learning wrote: > On Mon, 2014-09-29 at 10:49 -0500, Les Mikesell wrote: >> On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 8:40 AM, Always Learning >> wrote: >> > Thanks. I learned something new today. >> >> Not exactly... Applications that pipe to the sendmail command line >> program to send messages go back to

Re: [CentOS] Apache wakes-up inactive Exim

2014-09-29 Thread Always Learning
On Mon, 2014-09-29 at 10:49 -0500, Les Mikesell wrote: > On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 8:40 AM, Always Learning wrote: > > > >> > sendmail is a link to exim on most exim systems (like mine, though mine > >> > is > >> Ubuntu). > >> > >> cliffp@ubuntu:~$ which sendmail > >> /usr/sbin/sendmail > >> cliff

Re: [CentOS] Apache wakes-up inactive Exim

2014-09-29 Thread Les Mikesell
On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 8:40 AM, Always Learning wrote: > >> > sendmail is a link to exim on most exim systems (like mine, though mine is >> Ubuntu). >> >> cliffp@ubuntu:~$ which sendmail >> /usr/sbin/sendmail >> cliffp@ubuntu:~$ file `which sendmail` >> /usr/sbin/sendmail: symbolic link to `exim4

Re: [CentOS] Apache wakes-up inactive Exim

2014-09-29 Thread Always Learning
On Mon, 2014-09-29 at 17:04 +1300, Cliff Pratt wrote: > > sendmail is a link to exim on most exim systems (like mine, though mine is > Ubuntu). > > cliffp@ubuntu:~$ which sendmail > /usr/sbin/sendmail > cliffp@ubuntu:~$ file `which sendmail` > /usr/sbin/sendmail: symbolic link to `exim4' C 5.10

Re: [CentOS] Apache wakes-up inactive Exim

2014-09-28 Thread Cliff Pratt
On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 2:05 PM, Always Learning wrote: > > On Mon, 2014-09-29 at 00:03 +0400, Александр Кириллов wrote: > > > You don't really need an active smtp daemon to send email or deliver it > > locally. > > $ cat /etc/php.ini | grep sendmail > > "Package(s) sendmail available, but not in

Re: [CentOS] Apache wakes-up inactive Exim

2014-09-28 Thread John R. Dennison
On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 02:52:45AM +0100, Always Learning wrote: > > Sendmail is not present on the server. Exim is the only MTA. Exim awoke, > forwarded the email then became inactive (not running) again. He didn't say sendmail the package was present; he said sendmail the command. rpm -qvl exi

Re: [CentOS] Apache wakes-up inactive Exim

2014-09-28 Thread Always Learning
On Sun, 2014-09-28 at 19:27 -0500, Les Mikesell wrote: > Applications often send mail by piping to the command 'sendmail' which > is enough of a standard that other MTAs normally offer a compatible > command. With 'real' sendmail you can configure it to either deliver > in the current process or

Re: [CentOS] Apache wakes-up inactive Exim

2014-09-28 Thread Always Learning
On Mon, 2014-09-29 at 00:03 +0400, Александр Кириллов wrote: > You don't really need an active smtp daemon to send email or deliver it > locally. > $ cat /etc/php.ini | grep sendmail "Package(s) sendmail available, but not installed." It was Exim because the email headers said very clearly it

Re: [CentOS] Apache wakes-up inactive Exim

2014-09-28 Thread Les Mikesell
On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 2:01 PM, Always Learning wrote: > Had a surprising event on C 6.5. > > Exim was the only MTA installed. It was partially configured (with ACL, > Router, Transport) and definitely not running. > > I was remotely testing a web page. A web page error condition invoked > the em

Re: [CentOS] Apache wakes-up inactive Exim

2014-09-28 Thread Cliff Pratt
The daemon only handles incoming mail, or in other words waits for incoming connections from other mail servers. Outgoing mail is sent on demand, or in other words a connection is made to a mail server or relay as and when required. Cheers, Cliff On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 8:01 AM, Always Learning

Re: [CentOS] Apache wakes-up inactive Exim

2014-09-28 Thread Александр Кириллов
I was remotely testing a web page. A web page error condition invoked the embedded PHP mail() command. To my astonishment something in Centos woke-up Exim. Exim sent the email and then became inactive again. The Exim logs does not show any start-up lines, just 1. input from Apache. 2. output

[CentOS] Apache wakes-up inactive Exim

2014-09-28 Thread Always Learning
Had a surprising event on C 6.5. Exim was the only MTA installed. It was partially configured (with ACL, Router, Transport) and definitely not running. I was remotely testing a web page. A web page error condition invoked the embedded PHP mail() command. To my astonishment something in Centos wo