[CentOS] BInd Problem or Update SSL ?

2011-02-18 Thread Always Learning
> From: Larry Vaden > Date: Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 8:03 PM > Subject: sources of bind-9.7.2-P3 rpms for Centos 4.8 and 5.5? > Our site running Centos 4.8 and 5.5 name servers was hacked with > the result that www.yahoo.com is now within our /19 and causing > some grief. Don't understand what you

Re: [CentOS] BInd Problem or Update SSL ?

2011-02-18 Thread Larry Vaden
On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 3:15 PM, Always Learning wrote: > Don't understand what you mean by 'within our /19'. Have your IP ranges > changed?  If your Bind date is corrupt, why not re-install Centos and > then restore the domains data from one of your regular backups? Our network consists of aaa.b

Re: [CentOS] BInd Problem or Update SSL ?

2011-02-18 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 4:15 PM, Always Learning wrote: >> From: Larry Vaden >> Date: Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 8:03 PM >> Subject: sources of bind-9.7.2-P3 rpms for Centos 4.8 and 5.5? > > >> Our site running Centos 4.8 and 5.5 name servers was hacked with >> the result that www.yahoo.com is now with

Re: [CentOS] BInd Problem or Update SSL ?

2011-02-18 Thread James Hogarth
> > Our network consists of aaa.bbb.ccc.0/19.  That's CIDR notation for > 8,192 addresses. > But what has that got to do with "www.yahoo.com moved into our /19" your comment is pretty unclear. > > IMHO, fully updated purpose-built servers running 4.8 should have more > or less the same vulne

Re: [CentOS] BInd Problem or Update SSL ?

2011-02-18 Thread Lamar Owen
On Friday, February 18, 2011 04:15:28 pm Always Learning wrote: > > From: Larry Vaden > > Our site running Centos 4.8 and 5.5 name servers was hacked with > > the result that www.yahoo.com is now within our /19 and causing > > some grief. > > Don't understand what you mean by 'within our /19'.

Re: [CentOS] BInd Problem or Update SSL ?

2011-02-18 Thread James Hogarth
> > I think I do; he's an ISP, and apparently someone inside his address block > (the CIDR notation /19; his actual block is publicly found by doing a quick > nslookup of his domain name, noting the IP address of the DNS server(s) > listed, and then a whois of the IP address of the DNS server(s)

Re: [CentOS] BInd Problem or Update SSL ?

2011-02-18 Thread Always Learning
On Fri, 2011-02-18 at 18:32 -0500, Lamar Owen wrote: > On Friday, February 18, 2011 04:15:28 pm Always Learning wrote: > > Don't understand what you mean by 'within our /19'. > I think I do; he's an ISP, and apparently someone inside his address block > ... has hacked in some way the zone file(

Re: [CentOS] BInd Problem or Update SSL ?

2011-02-18 Thread Larry Vaden
On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 4:37 PM, James Hogarth wrote: > > Your mentor? What do you mean by that? The same thing Wikipedia says, namely: a trusted friend, counselor or teacher, usually a more experienced person. Some professions have "mentoring programs" in which newcomers are paired with more ex

Re: [CentOS] BInd Problem or Update SSL ?

2011-02-18 Thread James Hogarth
> > Joe, Randy and James are my mentors of 15, 5 and 5 years, > respectively, and all said the same thing, namely "nuke and repave, be > sure to be current on BIND" since it is a purpose-built box (ns1). > Perhaps is it a difference in language and what you mean by mentor and where I would mean ol

Re: [CentOS] BInd Problem or Update SSL ?

2011-02-18 Thread Larry Vaden
On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 7:39 PM, James Hogarth wrote: > >> With 20/20 hindsight, it is clear that I shouldn't have posted the >> original post asking the list for help and hopefully informing other >> potential targets of the risk (read: there were no responses to the >> original post, therefore i

Re: [CentOS] BInd Problem or Update SSL ?

2011-02-18 Thread Larry Vaden
On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 7:39 PM, James Hogarth wrote: >> >> Joe, Randy and James are my mentors of 15, 5 and 5 years, >> respectively, and all said the same thing, namely "nuke and repave, be >> sure to be current on BIND" since it is a purpose-built box (ns1). > > Perhaps is it a difference in la

Re: [CentOS] BInd Problem or Update SSL ?

2011-02-19 Thread James Hogarth
> > Johnny has remarked on the importance of trust. > > My trust in RedHat went down when I learned they are not shipping all > the SRPMs.  Some say it is due to human error.  If that is the case, > why should I think they are better at backporting security fixes than > at making sure a manifest of

Re: [CentOS] BInd Problem or Update SSL ?

2011-02-19 Thread Eero Volotinen
> My trust in RedHat went down when I learned they are not shipping all > the SRPMs.  Some say it is due to human error.  If that is the case, > why should I think they are better at backporting security fixes than > at making sure a manifest of SRPMs is complete and correct? Centos, SL and oracle

Re: [CentOS] BInd Problem or Update SSL ?

2011-02-19 Thread Larry Vaden
On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 6:58 AM, James Hogarth wrote: > > For the record an archive of all mails sent to the mailing list > appears here... in this case in date order. > > http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/2011-January/date.html > > To give you the benefit of the doubt I search there for yo

Re: [CentOS] BInd Problem or Update SSL ?

2011-02-19 Thread Lamar Owen
On Saturday, February 19, 2011 12:57:40 am Larry Vaden wrote: > Through this experience, > starting with a hacked or poisoned name server, or, quite frankly, the > perception of one, I have learned what people really see. Having a server hacked is one of the worst things that can happen in IT; no

Re: [CentOS] BInd Problem or Update SSL ?

2011-02-19 Thread Lamar Owen
On Saturday, February 19, 2011 01:51:55 am Larry Vaden wrote: > My trust in RedHat went down when I learned they are not shipping all > the SRPMs. Some say it is due to human error. If that is the case, > why should I think they are better at backporting security fixes than > at making sure a man

Re: [CentOS] BInd Problem or Update SSL ?

2011-02-19 Thread Larry Vaden
On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 9:51 AM, Lamar Owen wrote: > > If your server was really hacked, I'd start from scratch, and set the new one > up more defensively. THANKS for your input; there exists a consensus, so that's what will be done (replace 4.8 with 5.x). Troy says Fermi (a great target for t

Re: [CentOS] BInd Problem or Update SSL ?

2011-02-19 Thread John R. Dennison
On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 04:37:57PM -0600, Larry Vaden wrote: > > THANKS for your input; there exists a consensus, so that's what will > be done (replace 4.8 with 5.x). Troy says Fermi (a great target for > the miscreants/actors) runs stock BIND as it appears in > RHEL/CentOS/SL, so, to be redund

Re: [CentOS] BInd Problem or Update SSL ?

2011-02-19 Thread Larry Vaden
On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 5:07 PM, John R. Dennison wrote: > >        Just out of curiosity, have you ever thought about hiring a >        competent admin? Yes. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos