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>From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On
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>Of m.r...@5-cent.us
>Sent: Friday, January 15, 2010 5:14 PM
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>Subject: Re: [CentOS] Backup server
>
>>>> I was thinking about your lon
On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 5:20 PM, Jussi Hirvi wrote:
> I think nobody has yet mentioned rdiff-backup. I have very good
> experiences with it. Easy to setup and control (only remember first to
> install the required packages, and I think rsync-devel was not mentioned
> but is required).
>
> Rdiff-ba
> Sorin Srbu wrote:
>>> From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On
>>> Behalf Of Benjamin Franz
>>> Sent: Friday, January 15, 2010 2:26 PM
>>>
>>> I was thinking about your long term here. Make sure to use LVM to
>>> create your underlaying partition. Then you can add di
From: Benjamin Franz
> Oh, one last thing. Don't forget to use the '-E
> stride=XX,stripe-width=YY (where XX and YY are replaced with the
> appropriate values) options creating your filesystem on the RAID.
> Otherwise your disk drive usage will have 'hot spots' and slower than
> optimal speed.
>-Original Message-
>From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On
Behalf
>Of Les Mikesell
>Sent: Friday, January 15, 2010 2:49 PM
>To: CentOS mailing list
>Subject: Re: [CentOS] Backup server
>
>You might want to jo
>-Original Message-
>From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On
Behalf
>Of Benjamin Franz
>Sent: Friday, January 15, 2010 2:43 PM
>To: CentOS mailing list
>Subject: Re: [CentOS] Backup server
>
>> With six drives installed, there i
>-Original Message-
>From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On
Behalf
>Of Les Mikesell
>Sent: Friday, January 15, 2010 2:42 PM
>To: CentOS mailing list
>Subject: Re: [CentOS] Backup server
>
>The other question to ask is whether an offsit
Sorin Srbu wrote:
>
>>
>> Yes, but if you use the epel rpm, either mount it at /var/lib/BackupPC or
> put a
>> symlink there before the install. If you install from the sourceforge
> source
>> there is an install script that modifies the location so you can put things
>> where you want, but the r
Sorin Srbu wrote:
>> -Original Message-
>> From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf
>> Of Benjamin Franz
>> Sent: Friday, January 15, 2010 2:26 PM
>> To: CentOS mailing list
>> Subject: Re: [CentOS] Backup server
>&
Sorin Srbu wrote:
>
>> So you need to be able to walk the fine line
>> between these two.
>
> I'm trying. Something it just isn't enough. Although the boss has a soft spot
> for linux, as he also heads the CADD (Computer Aided Drug Design)-group.
>
>> To put it into perspective, ask the manager
>-Original Message-
>From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf
>Of Benjamin Franz
>Sent: Friday, January 15, 2010 2:26 PM
>To: CentOS mailing list
>Subject: Re: [CentOS] Backup server
>
>I was thinking about your long term here.
Sorin Srbu wrote:
>
> Today I have five 500GB-disks raided on linux machine. Remove one for parity
> and I have 2TB of real space available. Doing a 0+1, ie 1TB, would indeed be
> better as performance goes, but 1TB of space, well, it just isn't enough
> unfortunately.
>
> As it is now, the 2TB
>-Original Message-
>From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On
Behalf
>Of Les Mikesell
>Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 3:14 PM
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>Subject: Re: [CentOS] Backup server
>
>Yes, but if you use the epel rpm, eit
>-Original Message-
>From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf
>Of nate
>Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 5:00 PM
>To: centos@centos.org
>Subject: Re: [CentOS] Backup server
>
>I still feel burned from IBM's 75GXP fiasco ~
>-Original Message-
>From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On
Behalf
>Of Les Mikesell
>Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 4:48 PM
>To: centos@centos.org
>Subject: Re: [CentOS] Backup server
>
>Unfortunately, the only way commodity price
>-Original Message-
>From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf
>Of Brian Mathis
>Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 4:07 PM
>To: CentOS mailing list
>Subject: Re: [CentOS] Backup server
>
>[...]
> So you need to be able to walk t
On 1/14/2010 11:10 AM, Jussi Hirvi wrote:
> On 14.1.2010 17:59, Les Mikesell wrote:
>> Backuppc will at least send you an email when the backups have failed
>> for 3 days in a row.
>>
>> I probably should mention the one scenario it doesn't handle very well,
>> though. If you have very large files
On 14.1.2010 17:59, Les Mikesell wrote:
> Backuppc will at least send you an email when the backups have failed
> for 3 days in a row.
>
> I probably should mention the one scenario it doesn't handle very well,
> though. If you have very large files that have frequent small changes
> (active d
On 1/14/2010 10:41 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
>> On 1/14/2010 10:04 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
>>>
> Already done. Still feel a bit burned by the whole matter though.
I still feel burned from IBM's 75GXP fiasco ~7 years ago, even
>
OT but reminded me of that..
>>>
>>> Seagate
> On 1/14/2010 10:04 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
>>
Already done. Still feel a bit burned by the whole matter though.
>>>
>>> I still feel burned from IBM's 75GXP fiasco ~7 years ago, even
>>> OT but reminded me of that..
>>
>> Seagate Barracudas - mid-nineties, and again three-four years ago
On 1/14/2010 10:04 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
>
>>> Already done. Still feel a bit burned by the whole matter though.
>>
>> I still feel burned from IBM's 75GXP fiasco ~7 years ago, even
>> joined the lawsuit at the time(and got booted by the judge because
>> I was in another state), had probably
Les Mikesell wrote:
> Backuppc will at least send you an email when the backups have failed
> for 3 days in a row.
Yeah, I have this configured. Although, to be honest since I've set it
up, I've not had any failures yet, so I'll have to wait until I do, ha.
Max
> Sorin Srbu wrote:
>
>> Already done. Still feel a bit burned by the whole matter though.
>
> I still feel burned from IBM's 75GXP fiasco ~7 years ago, even
> joined the lawsuit at the time(and got booted by the judge because
> I was in another state), had probably an 80% failure rate on those
> d
Sorin Srbu wrote:
> Already done. Still feel a bit burned by the whole matter though.
I still feel burned from IBM's 75GXP fiasco ~7 years ago, even
joined the lawsuit at the time(and got booted by the judge because
I was in another state), had probably an 80% failure rate on those
disks. I got a
On 1/14/2010 9:23 AM, Max Hetrick wrote:
>
> That's what led me to BackupPC in the first place. We used to use
> rsnapshot here, and there were quite a few customized hacked together
> things that we thought were running nightly, and they really weren't.
> So, when I started investigating, I realiz
On 1/14/2010 9:08 AM, Sorin Srbu wrote:
>
>> Go to the vendor's web site, enter their serial numbers and get an RMA for a
>> free replacement. Every vendor has had bad batches.
>
> Already done. Still feel a bit burned by the whole matter though.
Unfortunately, the only way commodity priced thing
Brian Mathis wrote:
> To put it into perspective, ask the manager how much it would cost the
> business if this data was unrecoverable? After that, if they still
> don't want to spend a few hundred $$s on the insurance, get it in
> writing that your manager understands the risk and print it out a
On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 9:37 AM, Sorin Srbu wrote:
>>-Original Message-
>>From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf
>>Of Benjamin Franz
>>Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 2:12 PM
>>To: CentOS mailing list
>>Subject: Re
>-Original Message-
>From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf
>Of Les Mikesell
>Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 3:55 PM
>To: CentOS mailing list
>Subject: Re: [CentOS] Backup server
>
>> I haven't got a budget reall
Sorin Srbu wrote:
>> -Original Message-
>> From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf
>> Of Benjamin Franz
>> Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 2:12 PM
>> To: CentOS mailing list
>> Subject: Re: [CentOS] Backup server
>-Original Message-
>From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On
Behalf
>Of Les Mikesell
>Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 3:14 PM
>To: CentOS mailing list
>Subject: Re: [CentOS] Backup server
>
>If you have any opportunity to change thi
>-Original Message-
>From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf
>Of Benjamin Franz
>Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 2:12 PM
>To: CentOS mailing list
>Subject: Re: [CentOS] Backup server
>
>If you have any budget at all, invest in b
Sorin Srbu wrote:
>
>>> I've never had any problems with software raid5 in linux before, but you
>>> never
>>> know...
>> There's a big write performance hit from raid5 (software or not). It
>> may not be enough to be a showstopper but I wouldn't recommend it. Can
>> you reconfigure to a 0+1 or
Sorin Srbu wrote:
> Today I have five 500GB-disks raided on linux machine. Remove one for
> parity
> and I have 2TB of real space available. Doing a 0+1, ie 1TB, would indeed be
> better as performance goes, but 1TB of space, well, it just isn't enough
> unfortunately.
>
> As it is now, the 2TB
From: Sorin Srbu
> My google searches would have me believe that Amanda is the more popular
> choice for backup on linux. On this list it seems Backuppc is. Strange...
amanda was created in 1991...
BackupPC in 2001.
That would explain it a bit...
Also if tapes are the backup media, which was main
>-Original Message-
>From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On
Behalf
>Of S.Tindall
>Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 8:30 PM
>To: CentOS mailing list
>Subject: Re: [CentOS] Backup server
>
>So just use the stock epel package and you don
>-Original Message-
>From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf
>Of Les Mikesell
>Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 5:17 PM
>To: centos@centos.org
>Subject: Re: [CentOS] Backup server
>
>> I've never had any problems wit
>-Original Message-
>From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf
>Of Les Mikesell
>Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 4:57 PM
>To: centos@centos.org
>Subject: Re: [CentOS] Backup server
>
>On 1/13/2010 9:08 AM, Gabriel Rosca w
>-Original Message-
>From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On
Behalf
>Of Max Hetrick
>Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 4:39 PM
>To: CentOS mailing list
>Subject: Re: [CentOS] Backup server
>
>The reason I really like BackupPC is the com
>-Original Message-
>From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf
>Of Brian Mathis
>Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 4:32 PM
>To: CentOS mailing list
>Subject: Re: [CentOS] Backup server
>
>Do you currently need that disk space fo
>-Original Message-
>From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On
Behalf
>Of Gabriel Rosca
>Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 4:21 PM
>To: 'CentOS mailing list'
>Subject: Re: [CentOS] Backup server
>
>They have open source
>
&g
Jussi Hirvi wrote:
> I think nobody has yet mentioned rdiff-backup. I have very good
> experiences with it. Easy to setup and control (only remember first to
> install the required packages, and I think rsync-devel was not mentioned
> but is required).
What did you run into that requires rsync-
On Wed, 2010-01-13 at 10:03 -0600, Les Mikesell wrote:
> On 1/13/2010 9:04 AM, John Doe wrote:
> >
> > One thing that made me not use BackupPC was that (from the doc):
> > "The advantage of the mod_perl setup is that no setuid script is needed,
> > and there is a huge performance advantage Th
On Wed, 13 Jan 2010, Gabriel Rosca wrote:
> I like better Bacula ...
>
> Personal I have Bacula ... configure to backup mac, windows, and
> linux servers ...
+1
We back up the same mix with Bacula: Linux, Mac, Windows.
We're still using tape for off-site backups, which bacula handles
quite we
On 1/13/2010 8:51 AM, Sorin Srbu wrote:
>
>>
>> Between compression and pooling, I get about 10x the raw data being archived
>> with backuppc - it beats juggling tapes and you can let the users access the
>> backups of their own machine through a web interface. There are some down
>> sides
>> to p
On 1/13/2010 9:04 AM, John Doe wrote:
>
> One thing that made me not use BackupPC was that (from the doc):
> "The advantage of the mod_perl setup is that no setuid script is needed,
> and there is a huge performance advantage The
> typical speedup is around 15 times.
> To use mod_perl you ne
On 1/13/2010 9:08 AM, Gabriel Rosca wrote:
>
>
> My google searches would have me believe that Amanda is the more popular
> choice for backup on linux. On this list it seems Backuppc is. Strange...
> ;-)
Amanda is good for tape, and has a nice feature of being able to
estimate the sizes of full a
Sorin Srbu wrote:
> Sound very interesting indeed!
>
> I don't think the performance will be a problem, the server's a calculation
> machine that has now been scrapped running a dual-x...@2,something GHz and
> some 4GB RAM IIRC. Do you think the software-raid5 array used, would be a
> problem i
On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 8:36 AM, Sorin Srbu wrote:
>>-Original Message-
>>From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On
> Behalf
>>Of Barry Brimer
>>Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 2:15 PM
>>To: CentOS mailing list
>>Subject
They have open source
www.bacula.org
Gabe
-Original Message-
From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf
Of Sorin Srbu
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 10:20 AM
To: 'CentOS mailing list'
Subject: Re: [CentOS] Backup server
>-Ori
On 13.1.2010 12:04, Sorin Srbu wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I've built a new backup server for our linux-clients.
>
> Is Amanda the way to go for a backup-solution?
>
> It seems to be pretty powerful, if a bit finickety to set up initially.
>
> The way we currently do backups is to use rsync from the c
>-Original Message-
>From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On
Behalf
>Of Gabriel Rosca
>Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 4:09 PM
>To: 'CentOS mailing list'
>Subject: Re: [CentOS] Backup server
>
>I like better Bacula ...
>
>-Original Message-
>From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On
Behalf
>Of John Doe
>Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 4:04 PM
>To: CentOS mailing list
>Subject: Re: [CentOS] Backup server
>
>[...]
>If you need to run multiple Apache&#x
iling list'
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>From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On
Behalf
>Of Alan McKay
>Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 3:01 PM
>To: CentOS mailing list
>Subject: Re: [CentOS] Backup server
- Original Message
> From: Les Mikesell
> To: CentOS mailing list
> Sent: Wed, January 13, 2010 2:49:11 PM
> Subject: Re: [CentOS] Backup server
>
> Sorin Srbu wrote:
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: centos-boun...@centos.org [
>-Original Message-
>From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On
Behalf
>Of Alan McKay
>Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 3:01 PM
>To: CentOS mailing list
>Subject: Re: [CentOS] Backup server
>
>BackupPC over here - very happy with it f
>-Original Message-
>From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf
>Of Les Mikesell
>Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 2:49 PM
>To: CentOS mailing list
>Subject: Re: [CentOS] Backup server
>
>Between compression and pooling, I get abou
>-Original Message-
>From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On
Behalf
>Of Max Hetrick
>Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 2:36 PM
>To: CentOS mailing list
>Subject: Re: [CentOS] Backup server
>
>Sorin Srbu wrote:
>
>> Somewhat s
Alan McKay wrote:
> BackupPC over here - very happy with it for Linux and Windoze, at home and
> work
I too have found BackupPC a marvelously simple-to-use program.
In fact it seems to me much better for backing up Windows XP
than Windows own Backup program,
which I have never completely underst
BackupPC over here - very happy with it for Linux and Windoze, at home and work
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Sorin Srbu wrote:
>> -Original Message-
>> From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On
> Behalf
>> Of Barry Brimer
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 2:15 PM
>> To: CentOS mailing list
>> Subject: Re: [CentOS] Backup server
Sorin Srbu wrote:
> Somewhat similar, thanks. I think however I need to get away from this sort
> of backups. They're just to space-consuming.
Check out the user submitted HowTos on the Wiki.
http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos#head-bab8e87dc82e722540e2d39de8408750004a8c4a
Regards,
Max
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>-Original Message-
>From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On
Behalf
>Of Barry Brimer
>Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 2:15 PM
>To: CentOS mailing list
>Subject: Re: [CentOS] Backup server
>
>I use rsnapshot .. which manages set
+1 for Backuppc.
On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 7:30 AM, Les Mikesell wrote:
> Sorin Srbu wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I've built a new backup server for our linux-clients.
> >
> > Is Amanda the way to go for a backup-solution?
> >
> > It seems to be pretty powerful, if a bit finickety to set up init
Sorin Srbu wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I've built a new backup server for our linux-clients.
>
> Is Amanda the way to go for a backup-solution?
>
> It seems to be pretty powerful, if a bit finickety to set up initially.
>
> The way we currently do backups is to use rsync from the clients to two
> fol
> On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 5:04 AM, Sorin Srbu wrote:
>
>> The way we currently do backups is to use rsync from the clients to two
>> folders on an older server that rolls over every other week. This worked fine
>> for a while, but the rsync is cumulative and the users generate a tremendous
>> amo
On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 5:04 AM, Sorin Srbu wrote:
> The way we currently do backups is to use rsync from the clients to two
> folders on an older server that rolls over every other week. This worked fine
> for a while, but the rsync is cumulative and the users generate a tremendous
> amount of d
Sorin Srbu wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I've built a new backup server for our linux-clients.
>
> Is Amanda the way to go for a backup-solution?
>
> It seems to be pretty powerful, if a bit finickety to set up initially.
>
> The way we currently do backups is to use rsync from the clients to two
> fol
From: Sorin Srbu
> I've built a new backup server for our linux-clients.
> Is Amanda the way to go for a backup-solution?
> It seems to be pretty powerful, if a bit finickety to set up initially.
> The way we currently do backups is to use rsync from the clients to two
> folders on an older serv
Hi all,
I've built a new backup server for our linux-clients.
Is Amanda the way to go for a backup-solution?
It seems to be pretty powerful, if a bit finickety to set up initially.
The way we currently do backups is to use rsync from the clients to two
folders on an older server that rolls ove
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