My comment was sincere but was directed at Chris Pimberton, who I thought
was really funny.
I have nothing against Always Learning other than the fact that he hijacked
this thread from the original question that I asked...
On Oct 11, 2014 7:27 AM, "Valeri Galtsev"
wrote:
>
> On Sat, October 11,
On Sat, 2014-10-11 at 09:03 -0500, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
> >> If anyone is serious about security, it is not the keyboards one should
> >> worry about but another item that is so common it is always
> >> 'overlooked'. No further comment :-)
> If I were to hire sysadmin or computer security offic
On Sat, October 11, 2014 9:08 am, Igal Sapir wrote:
> On my short list for entertainment/stand up comedy :p
Have you ever heard someone saying "paranoia is on my sysadmin's job
description"? If you don't have an attitude described by that word you
better don't run severs. Not that I would say the
On Sat, Oct 11, 2014 at 08:00:44AM -0500, William Woods wrote:
> Either is your paranoia……
Enough already. Can you please take this off-list?
John
--
"Since every individual is accountable ultimately to the self, the formation
of that self dema
On my short list for entertainment/stand up comedy :p
On Oct 11, 2014 7:03 AM, "Valeri Galtsev"
wrote:
>
> On Fri, October 10, 2014 7:20 pm, William Woods wrote:
> > Whats your mailing address, I will send you some
> > more tinfoil.
> >
> > On Oct 10, 2014, at 5:35 PM, Always Learning wrote:
>
On Fri, October 10, 2014 7:20 pm, William Woods wrote:
> Whats your mailing address, I will send you some
> more tinfoil.
>
> On Oct 10, 2014, at 5:35 PM, Always Learning wrote:
>
>>
>> On Fri, 2014-10-10 at 16:31 -0500, Chris Pemberton wrote:
>>
>>> Did either of you think to crack open your lap
Either is your paranoia……
On Oct 11, 2014, at 7:16 AM, Always Learning wrote:
>
> On Fri, 2014-10-10 at 19:20 -0500, William Woods wrote:
>
>> Whats your mailing address, I will send you some
>> more tinfoil.
>
> I do hope you will be able to understand that your lack of knowledge and
> you
On Fri, 2014-10-10 at 19:20 -0500, William Woods wrote:
> Whats your mailing address, I will send you some
> more tinfoil.
I do hope you will be able to understand that your lack of knowledge and
your free offers of 'tin foil' are not really Centos matters.
--
Regards,
Paul.
England, EU.
_
Whats your mailing address, I will send you some
more tinfoil.
On Oct 10, 2014, at 5:35 PM, Always Learning wrote:
>
> On Fri, 2014-10-10 at 16:31 -0500, Chris Pemberton wrote:
>
>> Did either of you think to crack open your laptop cases and check for
>> embedded key logging hardware on the
On Fri, 2014-10-10 at 16:31 -0500, Chris Pemberton wrote:
> Did either of you think to crack open your laptop cases and check for
> embedded key logging hardware on the MB.. it could be in there... that
> tiny mislabeled capacitor near the USB bus would be a good hiding
> place... or have you
On Fri, 2014-10-10 at 13:07 -0500, William Woods wrote:
> I know its kinda hard for people to accept someone on a centos mailing list
> would
> use closed source, I am sorry some of you purists are offended.
I thought the entire Centos project was "Open Source". If that is
correct, what attract
On 10/10/2014 2:31 PM, Chris Pemberton wrote:
> To Paul and William,
>
> Did either of you think to crack open your laptop cases and check for
> embedded key logging hardware on the MB.. it could be in there... that
> tiny mislabeled capacitor near the USB bus would be a good hiding
> place... or h
To Paul and William,
Did either of you think to crack open your laptop cases and check for
embedded key logging hardware on the MB.. it could be in there... that
tiny mislabeled capacitor near the USB bus would be a good hiding
place... or have you been blindly typing away on those keyboards f
On Fri, October 10, 2014 1:30 pm, William Woods wrote:
> Then we are pretty much in agreement here, regarding the claims made
> by the other member of the list, I do think if you are going to make a
> claim and state it as if it is fact, you should back it up
>
Well, I know what claim you mean (
On 10/10/2014 11:44 AM, James Hogarth wrote:
> Keep in mind CentOS is a rebuild of RHEL so any resources for RHEL are
> applicable to CentOS.
>
> I'm not sure if any EL7 books have been written yet (as it's fairly new and
> the Red Hat certifications have only just started being updated).
>
> In th
On 8 October 2014 17:18, Igal @ getRailo.org wrote:
> On 10/8/2014 9:13 AM, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
> > Someone had mentioned on this list the following RedHat Enterprise 7 (and
> > as you know CentOS is binary replica of RedHat Enterprise with replaced
> > art work):
> >
> >
> https://access.redha
Then we are pretty much in agreement here, regarding the claims made
by the other member of the list, I do think if you are going to make a
claim and state it as if it is fact, you should back it up
> On Oct 10, 2014, at 1:23 PM, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
>
>
>> On Fri, October 10, 2014 1:07 pm, W
On Fri, October 10, 2014 1:07 pm, William Woods wrote:
> Not at all, and please dont tell me what I prefer, All I prefer is that
> people try to be homiest, you are right all software has bugs, but to
> imply in any way that
> open source is better is a misnomer.
>
> I use open source, closed sou
Not at all, and please don’t tell me what I prefer, All I prefer is that
people try to be homiest, you are right all software has bugs, but to imply in
any way that
open source is better is a misnomer.
I use open source, closed source, whatever tool fits the job, I don’t belong
to any specific c
On Fri, October 10, 2014 12:33 pm, William Woods wrote:
> So claim made, nothing to back it up. Got it.
>
> all I need to say is
BASH , OpenSSL
..
>
Nice examples. One-sided though. All software has bugs. You prefer
security through obscurity (closed source, and you have to _trust_ the
vendor of
And you can make all the claims you want, without being willing to back them up.
On Oct 10, 2014, at 12:56 PM, Always Learning wrote:
>
> On Fri, 2014-10-10 at 12:52 -0500, William Woods wrote:
>
>> I doubt you have been around longer than me, but not the point, nice
>> distraction though.
>>
On Fri, 2014-10-10 at 12:52 -0500, William Woods wrote:
> I doubt you have been around longer than me, but not the point, nice
> distraction though.
>
> I know quite well about google/Mozilla, yawn, old news, but if you are
> unwilling (or unable) to back up
> what you claim then I have no cho
I see, so you can’t back up your claim….ok.
On Oct 10, 2014, at 12:54 PM, Always Learning wrote:
>
> On Fri, 2014-10-10 at 12:33 -0500, William Woods wrote:
>
>> So claim made, nothing to back it up. Got it.
>
> You obviously didn't. Perhaps one day you may discover what others know
> today.
On Fri, 2014-10-10 at 12:33 -0500, William Woods wrote:
> So claim made, nothing to back it up. Got it.
You obviously didn't. Perhaps one day you may discover what others know
today.
--
Regards,
Paul.
England, EU.
___
CentOS mailing list
CentOS@c
Oh as a side note, that suggests nothing other than back up what you claim.
On Oct 10, 2014, at 12:45 PM, Always Learning wrote:
>
> On Fri, 2014-10-10 at 12:01 -0500, William Woods wrote:
>
>> Really, you have some URL’s to back up the paranoia ?
>
> That suggests I've been around a lot long
On Fri, 2014-10-10 at 12:21 -0500, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
> On Fri, October 10, 2014 12:01 pm, William Woods wrote:
> > Really, you have some URL’s to back up the paranoia ?
>
> Well, that's the problem with closed source systems (Which MS Windows is
> and commercial antiviruses for it are). One
I doubt you have been around longer than me, but not the point, nice
distraction though.
I know quite well about google/Mozilla, yawn, old news, but if you are
unwilling (or unable) to back up
what you claim then I have no choice but to call out a BS’er.
On Oct 10, 2014, at 12:45 PM, Always Lea
On Fri, 2014-10-10 at 12:01 -0500, William Woods wrote:
> Really, you have some URL’s to back up the paranoia ?
That suggests I've been around a lot longer than you and appear, with
some subjects, to know a little more than you. Many things happened when
the Internet was in its infancy and befor
So claim made, nothing to back it up. Got it.
all I need to say is…BASH , OpenSSL…..
I am sure there are more.
But really, if you are going to claim something, at least be willing to back up
what you claim is that asking to much ?
On Oct 10, 2014, at 12:21 PM, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
>
> On
On Fri, October 10, 2014 12:01 pm, William Woods wrote:
> Really, you have some URLs to back up the paranoia ?
Well, that's the problem with closed source systems (Which MS Windows is
and commercial antiviruses for it are). One can claim something and there
is no way to prove it is right or it i
Really, you have some URL’s to back up the paranoia ?
On Oct 10, 2014, at 12:00 PM, Always Learning wrote:
>
> On Fri, 2014-10-10 at 12:19 -0400, James B. Byrne wrote:
>
>> On Thu, October 9, 2014 21:11, John R Pierce wrote:
>>> On 10/9/2014 6:07 PM, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
BTW, the whole i
On Fri, 2014-10-10 at 12:19 -0400, James B. Byrne wrote:
> On Thu, October 9, 2014 21:11, John R Pierce wrote:
> > On 10/9/2014 6:07 PM, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
> >> BTW, the whole idea of "antivirus" is flawed. It is based on "enumerate
> >> bad". You can't, as one never knows what will be invente
Looks like I need my tin foil hat…..
On Oct 10, 2014, at 11:19 AM, James B. Byrne wrote:
>
> On Thu, October 9, 2014 21:11, John R Pierce wrote:
>> On 10/9/2014 6:07 PM, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
>>> BTW, the whole idea of "antivirus" is flawed. It is based on "enumerate
>>> bad". You can't, as one
On Thu, October 9, 2014 21:11, John R Pierce wrote:
> On 10/9/2014 6:07 PM, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
>> BTW, the whole idea of "antivirus" is flawed. It is based on "enumerate
>> bad". You can't, as one never knows what will be invented in a future.
>
> I agree, but I don't know what else you can put
On 10/9/2014 6:07 PM, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
BTW, the whole idea of "antivirus" is flawed. It is based on "enumerate
bad". You can't, as one never knows what will be invented in a future.
I agree, but I don't know what else you can put in the hands of the
novice, unless its the iPhone world of
actually, I think that the anti-virus that comes with Windows is only
available for desktop OSs like Windows 7, and not available for the
Server OSs like 2008 R2.
On 10/9/2014 6:07 PM, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
> On Thu, October 9, 2014 7:41 pm, John R Pierce wrote:
>> On 10/9/2014 8:18 AM, Valeri Ga
On Thu, October 9, 2014 7:41 pm, John R Pierce wrote:
> On 10/9/2014 8:18 AM, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
>> M$ Windows is the only OS (and I knew quite a few of the past and know
>> quite a few of present) whose creators tell you you can not safely run
>> it
>> without 3rd part software (anti-virus)...
On 10/9/2014 8:18 AM, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
M$ Windows is the only OS (and I knew quite a few of the past and know
quite a few of present) whose creators tell you you can not safely run it
without 3rd part software (anti-virus)...
Windows has included a decent A/V system, variously called Micro
On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 4:18 AM, Valeri Galtsev
wrote:
>
> On Thu, October 9, 2014 10:08 am, Igal @ getRailo.org wrote:
> > On 10/9/2014 12:22 AM, Mihamina Rakotomandimby wrote:
> >> On 10/08/2014 07:50 PM, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
> >>> Again, this is just $0.02 worth of my own opinion, definitely
On Thu, October 9, 2014 4:27 pm, Scott Robbins wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 09, 2014 at 10:24:32AM -0500, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, October 9, 2014 9:37 am, James B. Byrne wrote:
>> >
>> > On Wed, October 8, 2014 12:50, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
>> >>
>>
>> No, at the moment I run services in FreeBS
On Thu, Oct 09, 2014 at 10:24:32AM -0500, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
>
> On Thu, October 9, 2014 9:37 am, James B. Byrne wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, October 8, 2014 12:50, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
> >>
>
> No, at the moment I run services in FreeBSD jails. Even a single host
> sometimes lives in several jails
On Thu, October 9, 2014 2:22 am, Mihamina Rakotomandimby wrote:
> On 10/08/2014 07:50 PM, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
>> Again, this is just $0.02 worth of my own opinion, definitely not a
>> consensus (and likely not even a majority opinion) on this list.
>
> Just your humble opinion, but how do you in
On 10/9/2014 8:18 AM, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
> On Thu, October 9, 2014 10:08 am, Igal @ getRailo.org wrote:
>> On 10/9/2014 12:22 AM, Mihamina Rakotomandimby wrote:
>>> On 10/08/2014 07:50 PM, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
Again, this is just $0.02 worth of my own opinion, definitely not a
consen
On Thu, October 9, 2014 9:37 am, James B. Byrne wrote:
>
> On Wed, October 8, 2014 12:50, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
>>
>>
>> I would say, CentOS 6 is the best of Linuxes suitable for server (IMHO).
>> However, I for one decided to move my servers away from Linux (as from
>> "Unix-like" Linux gradually
On Thu, October 9, 2014 10:08 am, Igal @ getRailo.org wrote:
> On 10/9/2014 12:22 AM, Mihamina Rakotomandimby wrote:
>> On 10/08/2014 07:50 PM, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
>>> Again, this is just $0.02 worth of my own opinion, definitely not a
>>> consensus (and likely not even a majority opinion) on th
On 10/9/2014 12:22 AM, Mihamina Rakotomandimby wrote:
> On 10/08/2014 07:50 PM, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
>> Again, this is just $0.02 worth of my own opinion, definitely not a
>> consensus (and likely not even a majority opinion) on this list.
>
> Just your humble opinion, but how do you insist and re
On Wed, October 8, 2014 12:50, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
>
>
> I would say, CentOS 6 is the best of Linuxes suitable for server (IMHO).
> However, I for one decided to move my servers away from Linux (as from
> "Unix-like" Linux gradually becomes "Windows-like" during last 5 years or
> so). Since some
On 10/08/2014 07:50 PM, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
Again, this is just $0.02 worth of my own opinion, definitely not a
consensus (and likely not even a majority opinion) on this list.
Just your humble opinion, but how do you insist and repeat it :-)
___
Ce
On 10/8/2014 3:16 PM, Dave Stevens wrote:
Quoting Bowie Bailey :
On 10/8/2014 12:50 PM, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
I would say, CentOS 6 is the best of Linuxes suitable for server (IMHO).
However, I for one decided to move my servers away from Linux (as from
"Unix-like" Linux gradually becomes "Wi
On 10/8/2014 12:50 PM, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
On Wed, October 8, 2014 11:18 am, Igal @ getRailo.org wrote:
On 10/8/2014 9:13 AM, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
Someone had mentioned on this list the following RedHat Enterprise 7
(and
as you know CentOS is binary replica of RedHat Enterprise with replaced
On Wed, October 8, 2014 11:18 am, Igal @ getRailo.org wrote:
> On 10/8/2014 9:13 AM, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
>> Someone had mentioned on this list the following RedHat Enterprise 7
>> (and
>> as you know CentOS is binary replica of RedHat Enterprise with replaced
>> art work):
>>
>> https://access.r
On 10/8/2014 9:13 AM, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
> Someone had mentioned on this list the following RedHat Enterprise 7 (and
> as you know CentOS is binary replica of RedHat Enterprise with replaced
> art work):
>
> https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/7/html/System_Adm
On Wed, October 8, 2014 10:51 am, Igal @ getRailo.org wrote:
> hi all,
>
> after many years of working almost exclusively with Windows servers I am
> trying to switch to CentOS.
>
> I have a couple of books which were written for CentOS 5, but many
> (basic) things do not apply to CentOS 7 anymore,
hi all,
after many years of working almost exclusively with Windows servers I am
trying to switch to CentOS.
I have a couple of books which were written for CentOS 5, but many
(basic) things do not apply to CentOS 7 anymore, which is very confusing.
Internet resources suffer from the same proble
54 matches
Mail list logo
