Re: [CentOS] Centos 8 Mate?

2019-10-28 Thread Bill Maidment
On 26/10/2019 11:07 pm, Fred Smith wrote: On Sat, Oct 26, 2019 at 07:08:02PM +1100, Bill Maidment wrote: On 26/10/2019 12:08 pm, David G. Miller wrote: >The corresponding system-config-printer rpm from Fedora 28 appears to >work.  Not the best solution but a solution. > But no longer available

Re: [CentOS] Centos 8 Mate?

2019-10-26 Thread David G. Miller
On 10/26/19 6:07 AM, Fred Smith wrote: On Sat, Oct 26, 2019 at 07:08:02PM +1100, Bill Maidment wrote: On 26/10/2019 12:08 pm, David G. Miller wrote: The corresponding system-config-printer rpm from Fedora 28 appears to work.  Not the best solution but a solution. But no longer available that

Re: [CentOS] Centos 8 Mate?

2019-10-26 Thread Fred Smith
On Sat, Oct 26, 2019 at 07:08:02PM +1100, Bill Maidment wrote: > On 26/10/2019 12:08 pm, David G. Miller wrote: > >The corresponding system-config-printer rpm from Fedora 28 appears to > >work.  Not the best solution but a solution. > > > > But no longer available that I can find. I presume it mus

Re: [CentOS] Centos 8 Mate?

2019-10-26 Thread Bill Maidment
On 26/10/2019 12:08 pm, David G. Miller wrote: The corresponding system-config-printer rpm from Fedora 28 appears to work.  Not the best solution but a solution. But no longer available that I can find. I presume it must be version 1.5.11-13 to match the -lib version -- Cheers Bill

Re: [CentOS] Centos 8 Mate?

2019-10-25 Thread David G. Miller
The corresponding system-config-printer rpm from Fedora 28 appears to work.  Not the best solution but a solution. Cheers, Dave On 10/25/19 5:33 PM, Frank Cox wrote: On Sat, 26 Oct 2019 10:17:53 +1100 Bill Maidment wrote: I have also got MATE 1.22.2 running, but I don't have access to Printe

Re: [CentOS] Centos 8 Mate?

2019-10-25 Thread Frank Cox
On Sat, 26 Oct 2019 10:17:53 +1100 Bill Maidment wrote: > I have also got MATE 1.22.2 running, but I don't have access to Printer > configuration in MATE. I think it's missing. On Centos 7 that functionality is provided by the system-config-printer rpm, as seen here: system-config-printer-1.

Re: [CentOS] Centos 8 Mate?

2019-10-25 Thread Bill Maidment
On 16/10/2019 9:17 am, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: On 10/16/19 12:07 AM, Fred Smith wrote: On Tue, Oct 15, 2019 at 10:11:50PM +0200, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: On 10/15/19 10:08 PM, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: This is interesting and promising: "The official unofficial repository for MATE for E

Re: [CentOS] Centos 8 Mate?

2019-10-21 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
On 10/21/19 9:41 PM, David G. Miller wrote: > On 10/21/19 1:00 AM, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: >> On 10/21/19 6:02 AM, David G. Miller wrote: >>> On 10/11/19 7:46 PM, Robert G (Doc) Savage via CentOS wrote: On Wed, 2019-09-25 at 15:25 +0200, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: >>> >>> A couple of minor

Re: [CentOS] Centos 8 Mate?

2019-10-21 Thread David G. Miller
On 10/21/19 1:00 AM, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: On 10/21/19 6:02 AM, David G. Miller wrote: On 10/11/19 7:46 PM, Robert G (Doc) Savage via CentOS wrote: On Wed, 2019-09-25 at 15:25 +0200, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: As of now, I have a working MATE DM on CentOS 8. It's a hack though, I used Fed

Re: [CentOS] Centos 8 Mate?

2019-10-21 Thread Simon Matter via CentOS
> > > On 2019-10-18 10:27, Jonathan Billings wrote: >> On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 09:23:38AM -0500, Valeri Galtsev wrote: >>> And last but not least: I got used to some way of interaction with >>> computer, >>> and that way is most productive for me after very long use. I don't >>> want to >>> blend i

Re: [CentOS] Centos 8 Mate?

2019-10-21 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
On 10/21/19 6:02 AM, David G. Miller wrote: > On 10/11/19 7:46 PM, Robert G (Doc) Savage via CentOS wrote: >> On Wed, 2019-09-25 at 15:25 +0200, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: >>> As of now, I have a working MATE DM on CentOS 8. It's a hack though, >>> I >>> used Fedora repositories. But that means com

Re: [CentOS] Centos 8 Mate?

2019-10-20 Thread David G. Miller
On 10/11/19 7:46 PM, Robert G (Doc) Savage via CentOS wrote: On Wed, 2019-09-25 at 15:25 +0200, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: As of now, I have a working MATE DM on CentOS 8. It's a hack though, I used Fedora repositories. But that means compiling MATE in EPEL should be straightforward, just recomp

Re: [CentOS] Centos 8 Mate?

2019-10-18 Thread Jonathan Billings
On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 12:34:59PM -0400, Scott Robbins wrote: > Mutt does work with gmail. Hrrm, I'm looking I see I do have the password > used in my msmtprc file. If one just uses a very simple muttrc file file, > it will also work but require the password. Of course I'm aware that mutt an use

Re: [CentOS] Centos 8 Mate?

2019-10-18 Thread Jonathan Billings
On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 10:36:25AM -0500, Valeri Galtsev wrote: > On 2019-10-18 10:27, Jonathan Billings wrote: > > It's too bad that Mutt doesn't support GMail's authentication well > And no, I don't use gmail anything, I know you are a wast majority who don't > care, so, I'll not explain, and wil

Re: [CentOS] Centos 8 Mate?

2019-10-18 Thread Scott Robbins
On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 12:48:49PM -0500, Valeri Galtsev wrote: > > > > to change meaning, I trim in an effort to make it easier for others to read > > stuff. So if it was me, feel free to chastize me either publicly or > > privately > > I will not: I did receive so many great advises from you,

Re: [CentOS] Centos 8 Mate?

2019-10-18 Thread Valeri Galtsev
On 2019-10-18 12:40, Scott Robbins wrote: On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 11:42:22AM -0500, Valeri Galtsev wrote: On Oct 18, 2019, at 11:34 AM, Scott Robbins wrote: On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 10:36:25AM -0500, Valeri Galtsev wrote: On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 09:23:38AM -0500, Valeri Galtsev wrote:

Re: [CentOS] Centos 8 Mate?

2019-10-18 Thread Scott Robbins
On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 11:42:22AM -0500, Valeri Galtsev wrote: > > > > On Oct 18, 2019, at 11:34 AM, Scott Robbins wrote: > > > > On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 10:36:25AM -0500, Valeri Galtsev wrote: > >> > >> > >>> On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 09:23:38AM -0500, Valeri Galtsev wrote: > And last bu

Re: [CentOS] Centos 8 Mate?

2019-10-18 Thread Valeri Galtsev
> On Oct 18, 2019, at 11:34 AM, Scott Robbins wrote: > > On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 10:36:25AM -0500, Valeri Galtsev wrote: >> >> >>> On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 09:23:38AM -0500, Valeri Galtsev wrote: And last but not least: I got used to some way of interaction with computer, and t

Re: [CentOS] Centos 8 Mate?

2019-10-18 Thread Scott Robbins
On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 10:36:25AM -0500, Valeri Galtsev wrote: > > > > On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 09:23:38AM -0500, Valeri Galtsev wrote: > > > And last but not least: I got used to some way of interaction with > > > computer, > > > and that way is most productive for me after very long use. I don

Re: [CentOS] Centos 8 Mate?

2019-10-18 Thread Valeri Galtsev
On 2019-10-18 10:27, Jonathan Billings wrote: On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 09:23:38AM -0500, Valeri Galtsev wrote: And last but not least: I got used to some way of interaction with computer, and that way is most productive for me after very long use. I don't want to blend in iPad generation, I wa

Re: [CentOS] Centos 8 Mate?

2019-10-18 Thread Jonathan Billings
On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 09:23:38AM -0500, Valeri Galtsev wrote: > And last but not least: I got used to some way of interaction with computer, > and that way is most productive for me after very long use. I don't want to > blend in iPad generation, I want to stay productive which I am. So, I use >

Re: [CentOS] Centos 8 Mate?

2019-10-18 Thread Valeri Galtsev
On 2019-10-18 09:23, Valeri Galtsev wrote: On 2019-10-18 05:04, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: On 10/17/19 4:08 PM, Johnny Hughes wrote: On 9/24/19 2:41 PM, Frank Cox wrote: Without wanting to sound too pushy, I'm wondering if there is any update on the status of Mate now that Centos 8 has bee

Re: [CentOS] Centos 8 Mate?

2019-10-18 Thread Valeri Galtsev
On 2019-10-18 05:04, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: On 10/17/19 4:08 PM, Johnny Hughes wrote: On 9/24/19 2:41 PM, Frank Cox wrote: Without wanting to sound too pushy, I'm wondering if there is any update on the status of Mate now that Centos 8 has been released? I would love to jump on C8 and

Re: [CentOS] Centos 8 Mate?

2019-10-18 Thread Nicolas Kovacs
Le 18/10/2019 à 09:16, Alessandro Baggi a écrit : Hi Niki, why you choosed OpenSUSE Leap and not a distro like Fedora or Debian/Ubuntu? Earlier this year, I wrote a detailed blog article about choosing an OS. No theory and no speculation, just hands-on personal experience: https://www.microl

Re: [CentOS] Centos 8 Mate?

2019-10-18 Thread Georgios
you should give gnome3 some time. Here is the thing. At the beginning i disliked gnome3. I tried it for 1 or 2 days and then i turned to xfce. I started using gnome3 when one of my friends said that it is usable if you get use to it. I also considered the fact that desktop environments like xfce

Re: [CentOS] Centos 8 Mate?

2019-10-18 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
On 10/17/19 4:08 PM, Johnny Hughes wrote: > On 9/24/19 2:41 PM, Frank Cox wrote: >> Without wanting to sound too pushy, I'm wondering if there is any update on >> the status of Mate now that Centos 8 has been released? >> >> I would love to jump on C8 and start playing with it, but the lack of Mat

Re: [CentOS] Centos 8 Mate?

2019-10-18 Thread Alessandro Baggi
On 17/10/19 22:24, Nicolas Kovacs wrote: I decided to switch the desktop clients to OpenSUSE Leap KDE Hi Niki, why you choosed OpenSUSE Leap and not a distro like Fedora or Debian/Ubuntu? Best regards. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https

Re: [CentOS] Centos 8 Mate?

2019-10-17 Thread Yves Bellefeuille
Johnny Hughes wrote: > Is gnome3 really that bad :D It's better than Microsoft Bob, I suppose. -- Yves Bellefeuille ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos

Re: [CentOS] Centos 8 Mate?

2019-10-17 Thread Kay Schenk
On 10/17/19 7:08 AM, Johnny Hughes wrote: On 9/24/19 2:41 PM, Frank Cox wrote: Without wanting to sound too pushy, I'm wondering if there is any update on the status of Mate now that Centos 8 has been released? I would love to jump on C8 and start playing with it, but the lack of Mate is ki

Re: [CentOS] Centos 8 Mate?

2019-10-17 Thread Nicolas Kovacs
Le 17/10/2019 à 16:08, Johnny Hughes a écrit : Is gnome3 really that bad :D There's an easy way to figure that out. Our local school has been 100 % GNU/Linux since 2010 (when we first installed CentOS 5 on desktops and servers). On the latest count, I have a hundred users there. Over the ye

Re: [CentOS] Centos 8 Mate?

2019-10-17 Thread J Martin Rushton via CentOS
On 17/10/2019 15:59, Fred Smith wrote: > On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 09:08:28AM -0500, Johnny Hughes wrote: >> On 9/24/19 2:41 PM, Frank Cox wrote: >>> Without wanting to sound too pushy, I'm wondering if there is any update on >>> the status of Mate now that Centos 8 has been released? >>> >>> I wo

Re: [CentOS] Centos 8 Mate?

2019-10-17 Thread Robert G (Doc) Savage via CentOS
On Thu, 2019-10-17 at 10:59 -0400, Fred Smith wrote: > On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 09:08:28AM -0500, Johnny Hughes wrote: > > On 9/24/19 2:41 PM, Frank Cox wrote: > > > Without wanting to sound too pushy, I'm wondering if there is any > > > update on the status of Mate now that Centos 8 has been releas

Re: [CentOS] Centos 8 Mate?

2019-10-17 Thread Fred Smith
On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 09:08:28AM -0500, Johnny Hughes wrote: > On 9/24/19 2:41 PM, Frank Cox wrote: > > Without wanting to sound too pushy, I'm wondering if there is any update on > > the status of Mate now that Centos 8 has been released? > > > > I would love to jump on C8 and start playing wi

Re: [CentOS] Centos 8 Mate?

2019-10-17 Thread Johnny Hughes
On 9/24/19 2:41 PM, Frank Cox wrote: > Without wanting to sound too pushy, I'm wondering if there is any update on > the status of Mate now that Centos 8 has been released? > > I would love to jump on C8 and start playing with it, but the lack of Mate is > kind of a showstopper for me at the mo

Re: [CentOS] Centos 8 Mate?

2019-10-15 Thread Fred Smith
On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 12:17:17AM +0200, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: > On 10/16/19 12:07 AM, Fred Smith wrote: > > On Tue, Oct 15, 2019 at 10:11:50PM +0200, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: > >> On 10/15/19 10:08 PM, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: > >>> This is interesting and promising: > >>> > >>> "The off

Re: [CentOS] Centos 8 Mate?

2019-10-15 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
On 10/16/19 12:07 AM, Fred Smith wrote: > On Tue, Oct 15, 2019 at 10:11:50PM +0200, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: >> On 10/15/19 10:08 PM, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: >>> This is interesting and promising: >>> >>> "The official unofficial repository for MATE for EL8.": >>> https://copr.fedorainfracloud

Re: [CentOS] Centos 8 Mate?

2019-10-15 Thread Fred Smith
On Tue, Oct 15, 2019 at 10:11:50PM +0200, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: > On 10/15/19 10:08 PM, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: > > This is interesting and promising: > > > > "The official unofficial repository for MATE for EL8.": > > https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/neonman/MATE/ > > The previous

Re: [CentOS] Centos 8 Mate?

2019-10-15 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
On 10/15/19 10:08 PM, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: > This is interesting and promising: > > "The official unofficial repository for MATE for EL8.": > https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/neonman/MATE/ The previous link is forked repo (I do not know why) and here is original repo: https://copr.fe

Re: [CentOS] Centos 8 Mate?

2019-10-15 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
This is interesting and promising: "The official unofficial repository for MATE for EL8.": https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/neonman/MATE/ On 9/26/19 8:02 AM, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: > On 9/26/19 2:00 AM, Earl Ramirez wrote: >>> >>> If you want it ... package and build it when building

Re: [CentOS] Centos 8 Mate?

2019-10-11 Thread Robert G (Doc) Savage via CentOS
On Wed, 2019-09-25 at 15:25 +0200, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: > > As of now, I have a working MATE DM on CentOS 8. It's a hack though, > I > used Fedora repositories. But that means compiling MATE in EPEL > should > be straightforward, just recompile Fedora 28 packages. > > > I used Fedora 28 re

Re: [CentOS] Centos 8 Mate?

2019-10-05 Thread Robert G (Doc) Savage via CentOS
On Wed, 2019-09-25 at 15:25 +0200, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: > On 9/24/19 10:55 PM, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > > On Tue, 24 Sep 2019 at 15:41, Frank Cox > > wrote: > > > Without wanting to sound too pushy, I'm wondering if there is any > > > update on the status of Mate now that Centos 8 has b

Re: [CentOS] Centos 8 Mate?

2019-09-30 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
On 9/30/19 8:01 PM, Robert G (Doc) Savage via CentOS wrote: > On Thu, 2019-09-26 at 08:02 +0200, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: >> >> I managed to install F28 MATE packages to CentOS 8, so all is needed >> is >> to recompile those in EPEL. > > I too am a solid fan of MATE. F28 had v1.16. F30 has the l

Re: [CentOS] Centos 8 Mate?

2019-09-30 Thread Robert G (Doc) Savage via CentOS
On Thu, 2019-09-26 at 08:02 +0200, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: > > I managed to install F28 MATE packages to CentOS 8, so all is needed > is > to recompile those in EPEL. I too am a solid fan of MATE. F28 had v1.16. F30 has the latest v1.22. Is there any reason I should not try the latest? Perhaps

Re: [CentOS] Centos 8 Mate?

2019-09-26 Thread Nicolas Kovacs
Le 25/09/2019 à 00:24, Valeri Galtsev a écrit : > I tried SUSE around ver 7. Memory leak in code run as unpiveleged user > was consistently crashing stock SUSE installation. Whereas downloaded > and build kernel from kernel.org (with all default options) on the same > SAUSE box successfully killed

Re: [CentOS] Centos 8 Mate?

2019-09-25 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
On 9/26/19 2:00 AM, Earl Ramirez wrote: >> >> If you want it ... package and build it when building on 8 becomes >> available via CBS to SIGs. Should be early next week. > With the new initiative CentOS and Fedora Stream, wouldn't it be easier > collaborate with Fedora SIGs to bring an updated ver

Re: [CentOS] Centos 8 Mate?

2019-09-25 Thread Robert Nichols
On 9/25/19 1:46 PM, Chris Adams wrote: Once upon a time, Robert Nichols said: the lack of VM snapshot capability is a total deal-breaker for me. The capability is still there and works just the same as before. The only change is that the new preferred tool for graphical VM management, Cockpi

Re: [CentOS] Centos 8 Mate?

2019-09-25 Thread Earl Ramirez
> > If you want it ... package and build it when building on 8 becomes > available via CBS to SIGs. Should be early next week. With the new initiative CentOS and Fedora Stream, wouldn't it be easier collaborate with Fedora SIGs to bring an updated version of Mate to CentOS > and build whatever y

Re: [CentOS] Centos 8 Mate?

2019-09-25 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Chris Adams said: > Once upon a time, Robert Nichols said: > > the lack of VM snapshot capability is a total deal-breaker for me. > > The capability is still there and works just the same as before. The > only change is that the new preferred tool for graphical VM management,

Re: [CentOS] Centos 8 Mate?

2019-09-25 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Robert Nichols said: > the lack of VM snapshot capability is a total deal-breaker for me. The capability is still there and works just the same as before. The only change is that the new preferred tool for graphical VM management, Cockpit, doesn't yet support making snapshots.

Re: [CentOS] Centos 8 Mate?

2019-09-25 Thread Johnny Hughes
On 9/25/19 7:30 AM, Pete Biggs wrote: > >> I am guessing that because CentOS releases only every 3-5 years, >> people forget how much work is done at the beginning of every release. >> First there is a lack of packages available. Then there is the >> complaining that the OS is useless because it d

Re: [CentOS] Centos 8 Mate?

2019-09-25 Thread Valeri Galtsev
On 2019-09-25 10:12, Liam O'Toole wrote: On 25/09/2019 03:12, Fred Smith wrote: On Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 11:54:34PM +0100, Liam O'Toole wrote: On Tue, 24 Sep, 2019 at 14:48:57 -0600, Frank Cox wrote: On Tue, 24 Sep 2019 21:27:07 +0100 Liam O'Toole wrote: If the availability of a particular

Re: [CentOS] Centos 8 Mate?

2019-09-25 Thread Liam O'Toole
On 25/09/2019 03:12, Fred Smith wrote: On Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 11:54:34PM +0100, Liam O'Toole wrote: On Tue, 24 Sep, 2019 at 14:48:57 -0600, Frank Cox wrote: On Tue, 24 Sep 2019 21:27:07 +0100 Liam O'Toole wrote: If the availability of a particular desktop environment is a showstopper, then p

Re: [CentOS] Centos 8 Mate?

2019-09-25 Thread Fred Smith
On Wed, Sep 25, 2019 at 08:22:39AM -0400, Jonathan Billings wrote: > On Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 10:04:01PM -0500, Robert Nichols wrote: > > I might end up switching to Mint. > > I'm not sure that's a huge threat to CentOS, they're quite different. > > CentOS 7 really only supported GNOME3, largely b

Re: [CentOS] Centos 8 Mate?

2019-09-25 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
On 9/24/19 10:55 PM, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > On Tue, 24 Sep 2019 at 15:41, Frank Cox wrote: >> >> Without wanting to sound too pushy, I'm wondering if there is any update on >> the status of Mate now that Centos 8 has been released? >> >> I would love to jump on C8 and start playing with it

Re: [CentOS] Centos 8 Mate?

2019-09-25 Thread Pete Biggs
> I am guessing that because CentOS releases only every 3-5 years, > people forget how much work is done at the beginning of every release. > First there is a lack of packages available. Then there is the > complaining that the OS is useless because it doesn't have ABC. Then > there is finding th

Re: [CentOS] Centos 8 Mate?

2019-09-25 Thread Jonathan Billings
On Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 10:04:01PM -0500, Robert Nichols wrote: > I might end up switching to Mint. I'm not sure that's a huge threat to CentOS, they're quite different. CentOS 7 really only supported GNOME3, largely because Red Hat is so involved in GNOME development. MATE support on CentOS 7 s

Re: [CentOS] Centos 8 Mate?

2019-09-25 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
On 9/25/19 12:22 PM, Nicolas Kovacs wrote: > Le 25/09/2019 à 08:18, Ljubomir Ljubojevic a écrit : >> Why do you need "every major and minor desktop environment under the >> sun"? I run CentOS desktops/laptops since 5.3 and even rebuilt 70+ >> packages for it, even Skype rpm. >> >> All I need for

Re: [CentOS] Centos 8 Mate?

2019-09-25 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Tue, 24 Sep 2019 at 17:09, Frank Cox wrote: > > On Tue, 24 Sep 2019 16:55:19 -0400 > Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > > > Nothing has changed since the September 16 answer I gave: > > > > This is more of a question for the EPEL lists versus here. The current > > status is that desktops are harder

Re: [CentOS] Centos 8 Mate?

2019-09-25 Thread wwp
Hello, On Wed, 25 Sep 2019 11:33:53 +0200 Rainer Traut wrote: > Am 25.09.19 um 08:18 schrieb Ljubomir Ljubojevic: > > All I need for work that feeds me is one good work environment and that > > is MATE. All tray icons are visible so I can see if message or mail > > comes without need to move mo

Re: [CentOS] Centos 8 Mate?

2019-09-25 Thread Nicolas Kovacs
Le 25/09/2019 à 08:18, Ljubomir Ljubojevic a écrit : > Why do you need "every major and minor desktop environment under the > sun"? I run CentOS desktops/laptops since 5.3 and even rebuilt 70+ > packages for it, even Skype rpm. > > All I need for work that feeds me is one good work environment a

Re: [CentOS] Centos 8 Mate?

2019-09-25 Thread Rainer Traut
Am 25.09.19 um 08:18 schrieb Ljubomir Ljubojevic: All I need for work that feeds me is one good work environment and that is MATE. All tray icons are visible so I can see if message or mail comes without need to move more then eyeball. And stablity of CentOS makes it best option even though ver

Re: [CentOS] Centos 8 Mate?

2019-09-25 Thread H Toms
On 24/09/2019 21:55, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > On Tue, 24 Sep 2019 at 15:41, Frank Cox wrote: >> Without wanting to sound too pushy, I'm wondering if there is any update on >> the status of Mate now that Centos 8 has been released? >> >> I would love to jump on C8 and start playing with it, b

Re: [CentOS] Centos 8 Mate?

2019-09-24 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
On 9/25/19 12:06 AM, Nicolas Kovacs wrote: > But on the desktop, I've switched to OpenSUSE Leap, and I'm a happy > camper now. I can highly recommend it. Sports every major and minor > desktop environment under the sun, and it's a nice blend of semi-rolling > releases based on a rock-solid SLES bas

Re: [CentOS] Centos 8 Mate?

2019-09-24 Thread Robert Nichols
On 9/24/19 9:12 PM, Fred Smith wrote: OTOH, if I was forced to use Gnome, I may well go shoot myself. I was thinking I might as well go back to Windows, but that's pretty much the same thing. Right now I'm rather dismayed by RHEL/CentOS 8. I was hoping to skip CentOS 7 and go straight from

Re: [CentOS] Centos 8 Mate?

2019-09-24 Thread Fred Smith
On Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 11:54:34PM +0100, Liam O'Toole wrote: > On Tue, 24 Sep, 2019 at 14:48:57 -0600, Frank Cox wrote: > > On Tue, 24 Sep 2019 21:27:07 +0100 > > Liam O'Toole wrote: > > > > > If the availability of a particular desktop environment is a > > > showstopper, then perhaps RHEL and Ce

Re: [CentOS] Centos 8 Mate?

2019-09-24 Thread Liam O'Toole
On Tue, 24 Sep, 2019 at 18:08:08 -0400, Fred Smith wrote: > On Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 02:48:57PM -0600, Frank Cox wrote: > > On Tue, 24 Sep 2019 21:27:07 +0100 > > Liam O'Toole wrote: > > > > > If the availability of a particular desktop environment is a > > > showstopper, then perhaps RHEL and Cent

Re: [CentOS] Centos 8 Mate?

2019-09-24 Thread Liam O'Toole
On Tue, 24 Sep, 2019 at 14:48:57 -0600, Frank Cox wrote: > On Tue, 24 Sep 2019 21:27:07 +0100 > Liam O'Toole wrote: > > > If the availability of a particular desktop environment is a > > showstopper, then perhaps RHEL and CentOS are not the best choice for > > you. > > That may be, but in view of

Re: [CentOS] Centos 8 Mate?

2019-09-24 Thread Valeri Galtsev
On 2019-09-24 17:06, Nicolas Kovacs wrote: Le 24/09/2019 à 23:09, Frank Cox a écrit : Perhaps now that more people have their hands on Centos 8 and can work with it the folks who know what they're doing for getting desktops running on EL8 (and I'm definitely not one of them) will be able to ma

Re: [CentOS] Centos 8 Mate?

2019-09-24 Thread Fred Smith
On Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 02:48:57PM -0600, Frank Cox wrote: > On Tue, 24 Sep 2019 21:27:07 +0100 > Liam O'Toole wrote: > > > If the availability of a particular desktop environment is a > > showstopper, then perhaps RHEL and CentOS are not the best choice for > > you. > > That may be, but in view

Re: [CentOS] Centos 8 Mate?

2019-09-24 Thread Nicolas Kovacs
Le 24/09/2019 à 23:09, Frank Cox a écrit : > Perhaps now that more people have their hands on Centos 8 and can > work with it the folks who know what they're doing for getting > desktops running on EL8 (and I'm definitely not one of them) will be > able to make further progress. For what it's wort

Re: [CentOS] Centos 8 Mate?

2019-09-24 Thread Frank Cox
On Tue, 24 Sep 2019 16:55:19 -0400 Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > Nothing has changed since the September 16 answer I gave: > > This is more of a question for the EPEL lists versus here. The current > status is that desktops are harder to package up in EL8 and only a > less feature version is avai

Re: [CentOS] Centos 8 Mate?

2019-09-24 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Tue, 24 Sep 2019 at 15:41, Frank Cox wrote: > > Without wanting to sound too pushy, I'm wondering if there is any update on > the status of Mate now that Centos 8 has been released? > > I would love to jump on C8 and start playing with it, but the lack of Mate is > kind of a showstopper for

Re: [CentOS] Centos 8 Mate?

2019-09-24 Thread Frank Cox
On Tue, 24 Sep 2019 21:27:07 +0100 Liam O'Toole wrote: > If the availability of a particular desktop environment is a > showstopper, then perhaps RHEL and CentOS are not the best choice for > you. That may be, but in view of the fact that you can even get a version of CDE that works (very well)

Re: [CentOS] Centos 8 Mate?

2019-09-24 Thread Liam O'Toole
On Tue, 24 Sep, 2019 at 16:29:41 -0400, mark wrote: > Liam O'Toole wrote: > > On Tue, 24 Sep, 2019 at 13:41:08 -0600, Frank Cox wrote: > > > >> Without wanting to sound too pushy, I'm wondering if there is any > >> update on the status of Mate now that Centos 8 has been released? > >> > >> I would

Re: [CentOS] Centos 8 Mate?

2019-09-24 Thread mark
Liam O'Toole wrote: > On Tue, 24 Sep, 2019 at 13:41:08 -0600, Frank Cox wrote: > >> Without wanting to sound too pushy, I'm wondering if there is any >> update on the status of Mate now that Centos 8 has been released? >> >> I would love to jump on C8 and start playing with it, but the lack of >> M

Re: [CentOS] Centos 8 Mate?

2019-09-24 Thread Liam O'Toole
On Tue, 24 Sep, 2019 at 13:41:08 -0600, Frank Cox wrote: > Without wanting to sound too pushy, I'm wondering if there is any update on > the status of Mate now that Centos 8 has been released? > > I would love to jump on C8 and start playing with it, but the lack of Mate is > kind of a showstop

[CentOS] Centos 8 Mate?

2019-09-24 Thread Frank Cox
Without wanting to sound too pushy, I'm wondering if there is any update on the status of Mate now that Centos 8 has been released? I would love to jump on C8 and start playing with it, but the lack of Mate is kind of a showstopper for me at the moment. -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Real D 3D Digital