Re: [CentOS] Difference between CentOS Linux and CentOS Stream

2021-07-23 Thread Johnny Hughes
On 7/20/21 10:03 AM, Nicolas Kovacs wrote: > Le 19/07/2021 à 21:38, Johnny Hughes a écrit : >> Yes, some items, if you really need 10 years, would require Alma or >> Rocky or Oracle if you don't want to pay for RHEL. > > Low risk updates over a ten year support cycle are the number one reason we'v

Re: [CentOS] Difference between CentOS Linux and CentOS Stream

2021-07-23 Thread Matthew Miller
On Wed, Jul 21, 2021 at 11:22:59AM +0300, Nikolaos Milas wrote: > Rocky Linux is here too and it steadily establishes itself as the > new standard in terms of a CentOS successor. From what I'm seeing in terms of numbers from watching EPEL¹, CentOS Stream is the most popular "successor". For RHEL r

Re: [CentOS] Difference between CentOS Linux and CentOS Stream

2021-07-21 Thread Nikolaos Milas
On 21/7/2021 12:32 π.μ., Ian Mortimer wrote: We've been using the 10 year support to convince researchers to install CentOS instead of their preferred option Ubuntu.  We've now lost that argument so most will go to Ubuntu.  Those who need 10 year support will move to Oracle. Rocky Linux is h

Re: [CentOS] Difference between CentOS Linux and CentOS Stream

2021-07-20 Thread Akemi Yagi
On Tue, Jul 20, 2021 at 7:50 AM Ian Pilcher wrote: > > On 7/19/21 1:58 PM, Johnny Hughes wrote: > > If you are not doing anything special with the kernel, then there is > > very little difference between CentOS Stream and CentOS Linux. > > Out of curiosity, do we yet know the frequency of reboot-r

Re: [CentOS] Difference between CentOS Linux and CentOS Stream

2021-07-20 Thread Ian Mortimer
On Tue, 20 Jul 2021, Nicolas Kovacs wrote: Low risk updates over a ten year support cycle are the number one reason we've all been using "classic" CentOS in the first place. We've been using the 10 year support to convince researchers to install CentOS instead of their preferred option Ubuntu.

Re: [CentOS] Difference between CentOS Linux and CentOS Stream

2021-07-20 Thread Nicolas Kovacs
Le 20/07/2021 à 17:30, Valeri Galtsev a écrit : > I have been there for the same reason solely. Switching to "rolling release" > style distribution (Like Debian and clones, or FreeBSD - the last is no Linux > ;-) will occasionally require a but of work when some component steps up and > does need a

Re: [CentOS] Difference between CentOS Linux and CentOS Stream

2021-07-20 Thread Valeri Galtsev
On 7/20/21 10:03 AM, Nicolas Kovacs wrote: Le 19/07/2021 à 21:38, Johnny Hughes a écrit : Yes, some items, if you really need 10 years, would require Alma or Rocky or Oracle if you don't want to pay for RHEL. Low risk updates over a ten year support cycle are the number one reason we've all

Re: [CentOS] Difference between CentOS Linux and CentOS Stream

2021-07-20 Thread Nicolas Kovacs
Le 19/07/2021 à 21:38, Johnny Hughes a écrit : > Yes, some items, if you really need 10 years, would require Alma or > Rocky or Oracle if you don't want to pay for RHEL. Low risk updates over a ten year support cycle are the number one reason we've all been using "classic" CentOS in the first plac

Re: [CentOS] Difference between CentOS Linux and CentOS Stream

2021-07-20 Thread Ian Pilcher
On 7/19/21 1:58 PM, Johnny Hughes wrote: If you are not doing anything special with the kernel, then there is very little difference between CentOS Stream and CentOS Linux. Out of curiosity, do we yet know the frequency of reboot-required updates (kernel, glibc, systemd, etc.) in CentOS Stream?

Re: [CentOS] Difference between CentOS Linux and CentOS Stream

2021-07-19 Thread Gionatan Danti
Il 2021-07-19 21:38 Johnny Hughes ha scritto: Sure .. but just like you are using EL8 right now .. EL9 will be released before the 8-Stream EOL. Again .. Have no issues using whatever, but there will be plenty of time to get Stream 9 up and going for most loads before Stream 8 EOL. Any news ab

Re: [CentOS] Difference between CentOS Linux and CentOS Stream

2021-07-19 Thread J Martin Rushton via CentOS
Judging from the dates on /etc/*release Alma dropped on May 26. Also been solid. On 19/07/2021 21:26, Antonio Leding wrote: FWIW, Rocky Linux dropped GA v8.4 on Jun 21st and has been really stable for me thus far.  For those not aware, Rocky is based on RHEL and has the primary goal to be a C

Re: [CentOS] Difference between CentOS Linux and CentOS Stream

2021-07-19 Thread Antonio Leding
FWIW, Rocky Linux dropped GA v8.4 on Jun 21st and has been really stable for me thus far. For those not aware, Rocky is based on RHEL and has the primary goal to be a CentOS replacement. Also has solid sponsors - AWS, Microsoft, & Google… - - - On 19 Jul 2021, at 12:17, Antonis Kopsaftis wro

Re: [CentOS] Difference between CentOS Linux and CentOS Stream

2021-07-19 Thread Johnny Hughes
On 7/19/21 2:17 PM, Antonis Kopsaftis wrote: > Hello, > > Even if centos stream 8 is pretty stable for production usage his eol > date is until 2024 (same as centos 7). > In the following 2 years i will have to migrate my centos 7 servers to > something newer. I can choose a distro with the same e

Re: [CentOS] Difference between CentOS Linux and CentOS Stream

2021-07-19 Thread Antonis Kopsaftis
Hello, Even if centos stream 8 is pretty stable for production usage his eol date is until 2024 (same as centos 7). In the following 2 years i will have to migrate my centos 7 servers to something newer. I can choose a distro with the same eol date. I need a distro which much more long eol dat

Re: [CentOS] Difference between CentOS Linux and CentOS Stream

2021-07-19 Thread Johnny Hughes
On 7/19/21 12:59 PM, Antonis Kopsaftis wrote: > Hello, > > Check https://wiki.centos.org/About/Product to find the EOL dates for > each version of Centos. > > To my opinion the only centos version that is anymore appropriate for > production usage is version 7. Centos 8 is production ready but th

Re: [CentOS] Difference between CentOS Linux and CentOS Stream

2021-07-19 Thread Antonis Kopsaftis
Hello, Check https://wiki.centos.org/About/Product to find the EOL dates for each version of Centos. To my opinion the only centos version that is anymore appropriate for production usage is version 7. Centos 8 is production ready but the eol date is only a few months away. I choosed to mi

Re: [CentOS] Difference between CentOS Linux and CentOS Stream

2021-07-19 Thread Rich Bowen
On 7/19/21 12:01 PM, Kaushal Shriyan wrote: Hi, I am confused between CentOS Linux and CentOS Stream as per https://www.centos.org/download/. Please guide me on which one I need to use in the production environment. Is there a difference between CentOS Linux and CentOS Stream? Thanks in adva

Re: [CentOS] Difference between CentOS Linux and CentOS Stream

2021-07-19 Thread Jonathan Billings
On Mon, Jul 19, 2021 at 09:31:30PM +0530, Kaushal Shriyan wrote: > I am confused between CentOS Linux and CentOS Stream as per > https://www.centos.org/download/. Please guide me on which one I need to > use in the production environment. Is there a difference between CentOS > Linux and CentOS Stre

[CentOS] Difference between CentOS Linux and CentOS Stream

2021-07-19 Thread Kaushal Shriyan
Hi, I am confused between CentOS Linux and CentOS Stream as per https://www.centos.org/download/. Please guide me on which one I need to use in the production environment. Is there a difference between CentOS Linux and CentOS Stream? Thanks in advance and I look forward to hearing from you. Best