Re: [CentOS] Email/GroupWare Suite

Adam Tauno Williams wrote: > > This is one of the beauties of OpenGroupware - it's just PostgreSQL and > the filesystem. Simple and clean; PostgreSQL 8.3 performance is very > good. And you just reuse whatever SMTP/IMAP architecture you have or > want, this a strong bias towards Cyrus (of course

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> >> We are a public k-12 school and are looking to migrate to a groupware > >> style system for out staff to collaborate better. Currently we are using > >> Squirrelmail/postfix for email. Does anyone have any > >> recommendations/opinions. Any input would be greatly appreciated. > >> Thank you >

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> > Have you looked at the SME server disto from http://www.contribs.org? > It installs as an appliance-like setup managed through a simple web > interface. The code is mostly centos and includes hoard webmail running > over dovecot with maildir storage out of the box. It doesn't have a > shared

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On Fri, 9 Jan 2009, Kevin Thorpe wrote: > Bo Lynch wrote: >> Just wanted to get some thoughts from the list. >> >> We are a public k-12 school and are looking to migrate to a groupware >> style system for out staff to collaborate better. Currently we are using >> Squirrelmail/postfix for email

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Bo Lynch wrote: > > We really do not use an email client here. We try to keep everything web > based as much as possible. So interfacing with a email client such as > outlook really isn't that important to me. The web interface is what I'm > interested in. Have you looked at the SME server disto

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> >>> Can you use postfix with horde/imp? Yes, Horde doesn't care what the SMTP provider is so long as it works. > >> Well, postfix is just a MTA. IMP will use localhost:25 or > >> /usr/lib/sendmail to send mail ;-) > >> What's more interesting is the choice of IMAP-server ;-) Yep. > > We curre

Re: [CentOS] Email/GroupWare Suite

On Fri, 2009-01-09 at 13:15 -0600, Les Mikesell wrote: > Bill Campbell wrote: > > ... > >> Should I be concerned with the Licensing structure down the road? Meaning > >> in your opinion do you think that zimbra will close its door on the open > >> source model. Just don't want to demo something get

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Bill Campbell wrote: > ... >> Should I be concerned with the Licensing structure down the road? Meaning >> in your opinion do you think that zimbra will close its door on the open >> source model. Just don't want to demo something get everyone excited about >> using it and have to migrate to someth

Re: [CentOS] Email/GroupWare Suite

On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 6:36 PM, Max Hetrick wrote: > René Standfest wrote: > >> We have running at the moment eGroupWare, but we plan to migrate to SOGo >> (http://sogo.opengroupware.org) in the next two months (we had some annoying >> problems with eGW in the past). It has a really cool Webfronte

Re: [CentOS] Email/GroupWare Suite

Only was a reference for groupware names, you have to search into software repositories like freshmeat as well sourceforge. 2009/1/9 Adam Tauno Williams : > On Fri, 2009-01-09 at 11:29 -0600, Ricardo Carrillo wrote: >> maybe can look at http://nexist.sourceforge.net/groupware.html. > > Nothing on

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on 1-9-2009 9:23 AM Bill Campbell spake the following: > On Fri, Jan 09, 2009, Bo Lynch wrote: > ... >> Should I be concerned with the Licensing structure down the road? Meaning >> in your opinion do you think that zimbra will close its door on the open >> source model. Just don't want to demo some

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on 1-9-2009 8:21 AM Bo Lynch spake the following: > On Fri, January 9, 2009 11:31 am, Rainer Duffner wrote: >> Bo Lynch schrieb: >>> Can you use postfix with horde/imp? >>> >>> >> Well, postfix is just a MTA. IMP will use localhost:25 or >> /usr/lib/sendmail to send mail ;-) >> >> What's more inter

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On Fri, 2009-01-09 at 11:29 -0600, Ricardo Carrillo wrote: > maybe can look at http://nexist.sourceforge.net/groupware.html. Nothing on that list has been updated since 2004! If you want to do searching use a mainstream site like (although many projects, including ours

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maybe can look at http://nexist.sourceforge.net/groupware.html. cheers 2009/1/7 Bo Lynch : > Just wanted to get some thoughts from the list. > > We are a public k-12 school and are looking to migrate to a groupware > style system for out staff to collaborate better. Currently we are using > Sq

Re: [CentOS] Email/GroupWare Suite

On Fri, Jan 09, 2009, Bo Lynch wrote: ... > >Should I be concerned with the Licensing structure down the road? Meaning >in your opinion do you think that zimbra will close its door on the open >source model. Just don't want to demo something get everyone excited about >using it and have to migrate

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Bo Lynch schrieb: > On Fri, January 9, 2009 11:31 am, Rainer Duffner wrote: > >> Bo Lynch schrieb: >> >>> Can you use postfix with horde/imp? >>> >>> >>> >> Well, postfix is just a MTA. IMP will use localhost:25 or >> /usr/lib/sendmail to send mail ;-) >> >> What's more interesting i

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On Fri, January 9, 2009 11:31 am, Rainer Duffner wrote: > Bo Lynch schrieb: >> >> Can you use postfix with horde/imp? >> >> > > Well, postfix is just a MTA. IMP will use localhost:25 or > /usr/lib/sendmail to send mail ;-) > > What's more interesting is the choice of IMAP-server ;-) > > > Rainer >

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Bo Lynch schrieb: > > Should I be concerned with the Licensing structure down the road? Meaning > in your opinion do you think that zimbra will close its door on the open > source model. The chance is always there. I come from the BSD-world, where this is happening regularly (or actually designed

Re: [CentOS] Email/GroupWare Suite

On Fri, January 9, 2009 11:31 am, Rainer Duffner wrote: > Bo Lynch schrieb: >> >> Can you use postfix with horde/imp? >> >> > > Well, postfix is just a MTA. IMP will use localhost:25 or > /usr/lib/sendmail to send mail ;-) > > What's more interesting is the choice of IMAP-server ;-) > > > Rainer >

Re: [CentOS] Email/GroupWare Suite

Bo Lynch schrieb: > > Can you use postfix with horde/imp? > > Well, postfix is just a MTA. IMP will use localhost:25 or /usr/lib/sendmail to send mail ;-) What's more interesting is the choice of IMAP-server ;-) Rainer ___ CentOS mailing list CentO

Re: [CentOS] Email/GroupWare Suite

On Wed, January 7, 2009 7:19 pm, Craig White wrote: > On Wed, 2009-01-07 at 18:54 -0500, Bo Lynch wrote: > >> >> So are you required to run zimbras release of these packages? >> >> If you are forced to use them then how delayed are the releases. >> Are you able to use something other than amavis an

Re: [CentOS] Email/GroupWare Suite

On Fri, January 9, 2009 10:07 am, Rainer Duffner wrote: > Bo Lynch schrieb: >> On Fri, January 9, 2009 6:23 am, Kevin Thorpe wrote: >> >>> Bo Lynch wrote: >>> Just wanted to get some thoughts from the list. We are a public k-12 school and are looking to migrate to a groupware >>>

Re: [CentOS] Email/GroupWare Suite

> > Hm. Zimbra does _that_ very well IMO. Supports IE+FF+Safari, > at least for the webmail-stuff. > > I'm not sure if the Open-Source version actually supports the > Outlook-stuff (we use the commercial version and I don't use > Outlook anyway...). > > I'd give Zimbra a try. It's relativel

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Bo Lynch schrieb: > On Fri, January 9, 2009 6:23 am, Kevin Thorpe wrote: > >> Bo Lynch wrote: >> >>> Just wanted to get some thoughts from the list. >>> >>> We are a public k-12 school and are looking to migrate to a groupware >>> style system for out staff to collaborate better. Curren

Re: [CentOS] Email/GroupWare Suite

On Fri, January 9, 2009 6:23 am, Kevin Thorpe wrote: > Bo Lynch wrote: >> Just wanted to get some thoughts from the list. >> >> We are a public k-12 school and are looking to migrate to a groupware >> style system for out staff to collaborate better. Currently we are using >> Squirrelmail/postf

Re: [CentOS] Email/GroupWare Suite

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Bo Lynch wrote: > Just wanted to get some thoughts from the list. > > We are a public k-12 school and are looking to migrate to a groupware > style system for out staff to collaborate better. Currently we are using > Squirrelmail/postfix for email. Does anyone have any > recommendations/opinion

Re: [CentOS] Email/GroupWare Suite

On Fri, Jan 09, 2009, Bo Lynch wrote: >On Wed, January 7, 2009 7:19 pm, Craig White wrote: >> On Wed, 2009-01-07 at 18:54 -0500, Bo Lynch wrote: ... >> zimbra is pretty much of a closed box in that they have already decided >> what / how / where you will run stuff and no, you can't run anything >>

Re: [CentOS] Email/GroupWare Suite

On Wed, January 7, 2009 7:19 pm, Craig White wrote: > On Wed, 2009-01-07 at 18:54 -0500, Bo Lynch wrote: > >> >> So are you required to run zimbras release of these packages? >> >> If you are forced to use them then how delayed are the releases. >> Are you able to use something other than amavis an

Re: [CentOS] Email/GroupWare Suite

Max Hetrick schrieb am 08.01.2009 17:23: >> We have running at the moment eGroupWare, but we plan to migrate to SOGo >> (http://sogo.opengroupware.org) in the next two months (we had some annoying >> problems with eGW in the past). It has a really cool Webfrontend (looks like >> Thunderbird with Li

Re: [CentOS] Email/GroupWare Suite

Adam Tauno Williams wrote: > I develop on OpenGroupware, not SOGo, but both use SOPE's LDAP > library/bindings. If the DSA supports LDAPv3 binds you shouldn't have > any problems using it. > > I'd recommend OpenLDAP any day, as it is far-and-away the faster and > more feature-reach DSA. But I v

Re: [CentOS] Email/GroupWare Suite

Bo Lynch wrote: > Just wanted to get some thoughts from the list. > > We are a public k-12 school and are looking to migrate to a groupware > style system for out staff to collaborate better. Currently we are > using Squirrelmail/postfix for email. Does anyone have any > recommendations/opi

Re: [CentOS] Email/GroupWare Suite

> > We have running at the moment eGroupWare, but we plan to migrate to SOGo > > (http://sogo.opengroupware.org) in the next two months (we had some annoying > > problems with eGW in the past). It has a really cool Webfrontend (looks like > > Thunderbird with Lightning) and has a really functional

Re: [CentOS] Email/GroupWare Suite

René Standfest wrote: > We have running at the moment eGroupWare, but we plan to migrate to SOGo > (http://sogo.opengroupware.org) in the next two months (we had some annoying > problems with eGW in the past). It has a really cool Webfrontend (looks like > Thunderbird with Lightning) and has a rea

Re: [CentOS] Email/GroupWare Suite

René Standfest wrote: > We have running at the moment eGroupWare, but we plan to migrate to SOGo > (http://sogo.opengroupware.org) in the next two months (we had some annoying > problems with eGW in the past). It has a really cool Webfrontend (looks like > Thunderbird with Lightning) and has a rea

Re: [CentOS] Email/GroupWare Suite

Rainer Duffner wrote: > For Zimbra, yes. > But honestly: how on earth would they be able to guarantee that it's > working correctly in any other meaningful way? > Would you like to do support for your product that relies on a dozen > or more external other products (that aren't maintained in m

Re: [CentOS] Email/GroupWare Suite

> otherwise, um, if you really do want self hosting... pick your > favorite email server (postfix, sendmail, etc), use cyrus imap, let your > clients use any imap email app they prefer (Mozilla Thunderbird, > Microsoft Outlook or Live Mail, etc) Agree strongly with PostFix+Cyrus. It is a

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> > Actually you only get 25 users for free. After that you have to pay > > for it. I'm using it on one of my domains and it's very very good, > > but too low a limit for any decent sized business. > does that apply to nonprofits like k12/edus ? Can't answer that without making stuff up. :) Mine'

Re: [CentOS] Email/GroupWare Suite

Spiro Harvey wrote: > John R Pierce wrote: > > [using google mail+calendar+etc] > > >> The advantages of doing it this way are no costs at all, >> > > Actually you only get 25 users for free. After that you have to pay for > it. I'm using it on one of my domains and it's very very good, bu

Re: [CentOS] Email/GroupWare Suite

r...@vshift.com wrote: > Cc$ > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > Huh??? and why did you send this, quoting 200 something lines of previous peoples quotes without a clue what you're referring to?? folks, your cellphones make LOUSY email list communications device. please sti

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John R Pierce wrote: [using google mail+calendar+etc] > The advantages of doing it this way are no costs at all, Actually you only get 25 users for free. After that you have to pay for it. I'm using it on one of my domains and it's very very good, but too low a limit for any decent sized busin

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On 7-Jan-09, at 3:57 PM, John R Pierce wrote: > > otherwise, um, if you really do want self hosting... pick your > favorite email server (postfix, sendmail, etc), use cyrus imap, let > your > clients use any imap email app they prefer (Mozilla Thunderbird, > Microsoft Outlook or Live Mail

Re: [CentOS] Email/GroupWare Suite

Am 08.01.2009 um 00:54 schrieb Bo Lynch: > > So are you required to run zimbras release of these packages? > For Zimbra, yes. But honestly: how on earth would they be able to guarantee that it's working correctly in any other meaningful way? Would you like to do support for your product that

Re: [CentOS] Email/GroupWare Suite

On Wed, 2009-01-07 at 18:54 -0500, Bo Lynch wrote: > > So are you required to run zimbras release of these packages? > > If you are forced to use them then how delayed are the releases. > Are you able to use something other than amavis and clam for scanning?? We > use a product called VAMS relea

Re: [CentOS] Email/GroupWare Suite

Cc$ Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: "Bo Lynch" Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 18:45:22 To: CentOS mailing list Subject: Re: [CentOS] Email/GroupWare Suite On Wed, January 7, 2009 6:06 pm, Andrew Cotter wrote: > > >> -Origina

Re: [CentOS] Email/GroupWare Suite

On Wed, January 7, 2009 3:59 pm, Bill Campbell wrote: > On Wed, Jan 07, 2009, Bo Lynch wrote: >> >>On Wed, January 7, 2009 3:38 pm, Tim Nelson wrote: > ... >>I would have thought that this was a small install:) We probably have at >>the most around 200-250. I was just guessing for growth. We too op

Re: [CentOS] Email/GroupWare Suite

For a completely /different/ idea... I know several nonprofit and not-for-profit groups who coordinate their email and activities using a combination of GMail, google calendar(s) for scheduling, google apps for shared documents, and google group(s) for message board functionality. You can pull

Re: [CentOS] Email/GroupWare Suite

On Wed, January 7, 2009 6:06 pm, Andrew Cotter wrote: > > >> -Original Message- >> From: centos-boun...@centos.org >> [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of Rainer Duffner >> Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 5:32 PM >> To: CentOS mailing

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Andrew Cotter wrote: > > My problem would be that a single machine is a single point of failure. We > are looking at zimbra and using at least two machines utilizing GFS and our > SAN so we can withstand a failure. Wouldn't drbl/heartbeat be less complicated for 2 machines? -- Les Mikese

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> -Original Message- > From: centos-boun...@centos.org > [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of Rainer Duffner > Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 5:32 PM > To: CentOS mailing list > Subject: Re: [CentOS] Email/GroupWare Suite > > > Am 07.01.2009

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Am 07.01.2009 um 22:24 schrieb Adam Tauno Williams: >>> You'll definitely want to look at a multi-server setup for that. >>> Put your >>> mail/web services on one box and database/LDAP on another. Also, >>> for such >>> a large installation you may even want to look at their commercially >>>

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- "Bo Lynch" wrote: > I would have thought that this was a small install:) We probably have > at > the most around 200-250. I was just guessing for growth. We too opt > open > source. Is zimbra a resource hog? Meaning do you think it would work > with > maybe a xeon quadcore with 4gb RAM? RAM

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> > You'll definitely want to look at a multi-server setup for that. Put your > > mail/web services on one box and database/LDAP on another. Also, for such > > a large installation you may even want to look at their commercially > > supported editions. Last time I checked (admittedly quite a while

Re: [CentOS] Email/GroupWare Suite

> On Wed, January 7, 2009 3:23 pm, Ed Westphal wrote: >> I may start a war here, but I'm going to recommend Lotus Notes / Domino >> as the collaborative software for you. I've had quite a bit of >> experience with it in a large multi-national company. It can definitely >> handle all that you may wa

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> >> I may start a war here, but I'm going to recommend Lotus Notes / Domino > >> as the collaborative software for you. I've had quite a bit of > >> experience with it in a large multi-national company. It can definitely > > Has anyone used PHPGroupware? > > I've been looking at some comparisons w

Re: [CentOS] Email/GroupWare Suite

on 1-7-2009 12:15 PM Bo Lynch spake the following: > On Wed, January 7, 2009 3:23 pm, Ed Westphal wrote: >> Bo Lynch wrote: >>> Just wanted to get some thoughts from the list. >>> >>> We are a public k-12 school and are looking to migrate to a groupware >>> style system for out staff to collabo

Re: [CentOS] Email/GroupWare Suite

On Wed, Jan 07, 2009, Bo Lynch wrote: > >On Wed, January 7, 2009 3:38 pm, Tim Nelson wrote: ... >I would have thought that this was a small install:) We probably have at >the most around 200-250. I was just guessing for growth. We too opt open >source. Is zimbra a resource hog? Meaning do you think

Re: [CentOS] Email/GroupWare Suite

On Wed, January 7, 2009 3:38 pm, Tim Nelson wrote: > - "Bo Lynch" wrote: >> I would say that we have around 300 users. >> >> Bo Lynch > > You'll definitely want to look at a multi-server setup for that. Put your > mail/web services on one box and database/LDAP on another. Also, for such > a l

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Bo Lynch schrieb am 07.01.2009 20:56: > Just wanted to get some thoughts from the list. > > We are a public k-12 school and are looking to migrate to a groupware > style system for out staff to collaborate better. Currently we are using > Squirrelmail/postfix for email. Does anyone have any >

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- "Bo Lynch" wrote: > I would say that we have around 300 users. > > Bo Lynch You'll definitely want to look at a multi-server setup for that. Put your mail/web services on one box and database/LDAP on another. Also, for such a large installation you may even want to look at their commerci

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On Wed, January 7, 2009 3:28 pm, Tim Nelson wrote: > - "Bo Lynch" wrote: >> Just wanted to get some thoughts from the list. >> >> We are a public k-12 school and are looking to migrate to a groupware >> style system for out staff to collaborate better. Currently we are >> using >> Squirre

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- "Bo Lynch" wrote: > Just wanted to get some thoughts from the list. > > We are a public k-12 school and are looking to migrate to a groupware > style system for out staff to collaborate better. Currently we are > using > Squirrelmail/postfix for email. Does anyone have any > recommendat

Re: [CentOS] Email/GroupWare Suite

On Wed, January 7, 2009 3:23 pm, Ed Westphal wrote: > Bo Lynch wrote: >> Just wanted to get some thoughts from the list. >> >> We are a public k-12 school and are looking to migrate to a groupware >> style system for out staff to collaborate better. Currently we are using >> Squirrelmail/postfi

Re: [CentOS] Email/GroupWare Suite

Bo Lynch wrote: > Just wanted to get some thoughts from the list. > > We are a public k-12 school and are looking to migrate to a groupware > style system for out staff to collaborate better. Currently we are using > Squirrelmail/postfix for email. Does anyone have any > recommendations/opinion

Re: [CentOS] Email/GroupWare Suite

> -Original Message- > From: centos-boun...@centos.org > [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of Bo Lynch > Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 2:56 PM > To: centos@centos.org > Subject: [CentOS] Email/GroupWare Suite > > Just wanted to get some thoughts fr

Re: [CentOS] Email/GroupWare Suite

Bo Lynch wrote: > Just wanted to get some thoughts from the list. > > We are a public k-12 school and are looking to migrate to a groupware > style system for out staff to collaborate better. Currently we are using > Squirrelmail/postfix for email. Does anyone have any > recommendations/opinio

Re: [CentOS] Email/GroupWare Suite

On Wed, 2009-01-07 at 14:56 -0500, Bo Lynch wrote: > Just wanted to get some thoughts from the list. > > We are a public k-12 school and are looking to migrate to a groupware > style system for out staff to collaborate better. Currently we are using > Squirrelmail/postfix for email. Does anyon

[CentOS] Email/GroupWare Suite

Just wanted to get some thoughts from the list. We are a public k-12 school and are looking to migrate to a groupware style system for out staff to collaborate better. Currently we are using Squirrelmail/postfix for email. Does anyone have any recommendations/opinions. Any input would be great