Re: [CentOS] How to configure sendmail

2012-12-05 Thread Nikos Gatsis - Qbit
On 3/12/2012 2:00 μμ, centos-requ...@centos.org wrote: > > In reading my Linux Admin books and looking at the help files I > am confused about what entries to enter into sendmail.mc. To > date I have not had to configure sendmail since I use a class in > PHP that is straight, however I am learnin

Re: [CentOS] How to configure sendmail

2012-12-03 Thread Gé Weijers
On Sun, Dec 2, 2012 at 6:22 PM, Phil Dobbin wrote: > > Whilst bowing in due deference to people who've been using *nix/Linux > since it required a piece of string, two tin cans & coven in order to > achieve results, I was under the impression that nowadays, unless you > actually need some functio

Re: [CentOS] How to configure sendmail

2012-12-03 Thread John R Pierce
On 12/3/2012 2:46 PM, Tilman Schmidt wrote: > Am 03.12.2012 02:54, schrieb John R Pierce: >> >I once knew my way around the 'rules' in the .cf file. thats truly >> >some evil arcane magic in there. > Well, yes. I once knew how to program in assembly language, too. > > But that's not argument fo

Re: [CentOS] How to configure sendmail

2012-12-03 Thread Tilman Schmidt
Am 03.12.2012 02:54, schrieb John R Pierce: > I once knew my way around the 'rules' in the .cf file. thats truly > some evil arcane magic in there. Well, yes. I once knew how to program in assembly language, too. But that's not argument for or against Sendmail. The .cf file is a generated fi

Re: [CentOS] How to configure sendmail

2012-12-03 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 03.12.2012 20:13, schrieb Joseph Spenner: > I agree. When first trying to configure sendmail years ago, I remember how > painful it was. "Giving birth to a flaming porcupine", comes to mind. > Postfix is about as easy as I was always thinking sendmail should be. > > Now if only they'd do s

Re: [CentOS] How to configure sendmail

2012-12-03 Thread Joseph Spenner
On 12/2/2012 3:52 PM, Harold Pritchett wrote: > you are a sendmail expert.    I too have been using sendmail for > umpteen years (since the early 90s with UUCP, anyways), and feel > comfortable in it, and haven't to date been willing to put in the effort > to switch.. > > The OP, on the other

Re: [CentOS] How to configure sendmail

2012-12-03 Thread Scott Robbins
On Sun, Dec 02, 2012 at 10:46:29PM -0500, Stephen Harris wrote: > On Sun, Dec 02, 2012 at 05:54:06PM -0800, John R Pierce wrote: > > I once knew my way around the 'rules' in the .cf file. thats truly > > some evil arcane magic in there. > > My old SA interviews used to include a line of send

Re: [CentOS] How to configure sendmail

2012-12-02 Thread Stephen Harris
On Sun, Dec 02, 2012 at 05:54:06PM -0800, John R Pierce wrote: > I once knew my way around the 'rules' in the .cf file. thats truly > some evil arcane magic in there. My old SA interviews used to include a line of sendmail.cf to see if the applicant recognised it. At the time (SunOS 4, Solar

Re: [CentOS] How to configure sendmail

2012-12-02 Thread Ron Loftin
On Mon, 2012-12-03 at 02:22 +, Phil Dobbin wrote: > On 12/03/2012 01:54 AM, John R Pierce wrote: > > > On 12/2/2012 5:47 PM, Les Mikesell wrote: > >> If you don't like things that use traditional unix tools for the > >> purposes they were designed, why are you interested in using linux at > >

Re: [CentOS] How to configure sendmail

2012-12-02 Thread Les Mikesell
On Sun, Dec 2, 2012 at 8:22 PM, Phil Dobbin wrote: > >>> If you don't like things that use traditional unix tools for the >>> purposes they were designed, why are you interested in using linux at >>> all? From a user perspective making a few changes to sendmail.mc and >>> restarting the sendmail

Re: [CentOS] How to configure sendmail

2012-12-02 Thread Phil Dobbin
On 12/03/2012 01:54 AM, John R Pierce wrote: > On 12/2/2012 5:47 PM, Les Mikesell wrote: >> If you don't like things that use traditional unix tools for the >> purposes they were designed, why are you interested in using linux at >> all? From a user perspective making a few changes to sendmail.mc

Re: [CentOS] How to configure sendmail

2012-12-02 Thread John R Pierce
On 12/2/2012 5:47 PM, Les Mikesell wrote: > If you don't like things that use traditional unix tools for the > purposes they were designed, why are you interested in using linux at > all? From a user perspective making a few changes to sendmail.mc and > restarting the sendmail service is quite eas

Re: [CentOS] How to configure sendmail

2012-12-02 Thread Les Mikesell
On Sun, Dec 2, 2012 at 6:25 PM, Brian Mathis wrote: > > Conceptually, the fact that sendmail requires a makefile and a bunch > of macros just to generate the configuration pretty clearly points to > *something* being wrong, or at least anachronistic, with the design. If you don't like things that

Re: [CentOS] How to configure sendmail

2012-12-02 Thread John R Pierce
On 12/2/2012 3:52 PM, Harold Pritchett wrote: > Why? Once upon a time, many years ago, I tried postfix. I ended up removing > it and installing sendmail. I've been using sendmail since the early 1980's, > when we were running the Eric Allman code from UCB on a VAX 780 under BCD > Unix. And,

Re: [CentOS] How to configure sendmail

2012-12-02 Thread Vlad K.
On 12/02/2012 08:53 PM, Todd Cary wrote: > PHP that is straight, however I am learning how to use Concrete5 > for my local Rotary club and it apparently needs sendmail. Are you sure it requires the Sendmail MTA, or just the sendmail (compatible) binary (which is actually what PHP requires by defa

Re: [CentOS] How to configure sendmail

2012-12-02 Thread Brian Mathis
On Sun, Dec 2, 2012 at 6:52 PM, Harold Pritchett wrote: > On 12/2/2012 6:08 PM, John R Pierce wrote: >> On 12/2/2012 2:46 PM, Tilman Schmidt wrote: >>> Not a good advice for someone who already has some experience >>> with Sendmail but none with Postfix. He'll have to read docs >>> either way, but

Re: [CentOS] How to configure sendmail

2012-12-02 Thread Harold Pritchett
On 12/2/2012 6:08 PM, John R Pierce wrote: > On 12/2/2012 2:46 PM, Tilman Schmidt wrote: >> Not a good advice for someone who already has some experience >> with Sendmail but none with Postfix. He'll have to read docs >> either way, but staying with Sendmail spares him the effort >> of reinstallati

Re: [CentOS] How to configure sendmail

2012-12-02 Thread John R Pierce
On 12/2/2012 2:46 PM, Tilman Schmidt wrote: > Not a good advice for someone who already has some experience > with Sendmail but none with Postfix. He'll have to read docs > either way, but staying with Sendmail spares him the effort > of reinstallation (including probable breakage of his running >

Re: [CentOS] How to configure sendmail

2012-12-02 Thread Tilman Schmidt
Am 02.12.2012 21:09, schrieb Eero Volotinen: > 2012/12/2 Todd Cary : >> In reading my Linux Admin books and looking at the help files I >> am confused about what entries to enter into sendmail.mc. To >> date I have not had to configure sendmail since I use a class in >> PHP that is straight, howev

Re: [CentOS] How to configure sendmail

2012-12-02 Thread Alexander Dalloz
Am 02.12.2012 20:53, schrieb Todd Cary: > In reading my Linux Admin books and looking at the help files I > am confused about what entries to enter into sendmail.mc. To > date I have not had to configure sendmail since I use a class in > PHP that is straight, however I am learning how to use Co

Re: [CentOS] How to configure sendmail

2012-12-02 Thread Phil Dobbin
On 12/02/2012 08:09 PM, Eero Volotinen wrote: > 2012/12/2 Todd Cary : >> In reading my Linux Admin books and looking at the help files I >> am confused about what entries to enter into sendmail.mc. To >> date I have not had to configure sendmail since I use a class in >> PHP that is straight, how

Re: [CentOS] How to configure sendmail

2012-12-02 Thread Eero Volotinen
2012/12/2 Todd Cary : > In reading my Linux Admin books and looking at the help files I > am confused about what entries to enter into sendmail.mc. To > date I have not had to configure sendmail since I use a class in > PHP that is straight, however I am learning how to use Concrete5 > for my loca

[CentOS] How to configure sendmail

2012-12-02 Thread Todd Cary
In reading my Linux Admin books and looking at the help files I am confused about what entries to enter into sendmail.mc. To date I have not had to configure sendmail since I use a class in PHP that is straight, however I am learning how to use Concrete5 for my local Rotary club and it apparen