[CentOS] Migrating away from Nagios

2010-06-18 Thread Joseph L. Casale
I have to rebuild a new Nagios box and thought this might be a good time to migrate away. I use snmp mostly for everything but with the fork Nagios endured I wonder about putting any more effort into the project. I probably should look at OpenNMS again, but the other options I think might work are

[CentOS] Migrating away from Nagios

2010-06-21 Thread Jane Curry
I'd try Zenoss. I wrote a big paper comparing Nagios, OpenNMS and Zenoss ( http://www.skills-1st.co.uk/papers/jane/open_source_mgmt_options.html ) - it's nearly 2 years back now but many of the basics are the same. At that time, I plumped for Zenoss but, to be fair, my main negative on OpenNMS

Re: [CentOS] Migrating away from Nagios

2010-06-18 Thread Baird, Josh
riday, June 18, 2010 10:32 AM To: 'centos@centos.org' Subject: [CentOS] Migrating away from Nagios I have to rebuild a new Nagios box and thought this might be a good time to migrate away. I use snmp mostly for everything but with the fork Nagios endured I wonder about putting any more

Re: [CentOS] Migrating away from Nagios

2010-06-18 Thread Les Mikesell
On 6/18/2010 10:31 AM, Joseph L. Casale wrote: > I have to rebuild a new Nagios box and thought this might be a good time > to migrate away. I use snmp mostly for everything but with the fork Nagios > endured I wonder about putting any more effort into the project. > > I probably should look at Ope

Re: [CentOS] Migrating away from Nagios

2010-06-18 Thread Joseph L. Casale
>I am a pretty hardcore ZenOSS user.. We use it to monitor over 1000 >devices in different fashions - using a combination of SNMP (Linux), WMI >(windows) and SSH (Unix/Aix). While there is a slight learning curve to >get everything working the way you want - it is, in my opinion, the most >powerfu

Re: [CentOS] Migrating away from Nagios

2010-06-18 Thread Joseph L. Casale
>It depends on what you are doing, but if it is mostly snmp data >collection and icmp/tcp application monitoring, OpenNMS will probably do >it out of the box with autodiscovery and no client setup. If you have >lots of custom nagios client code, you'll probably have to twiddle some >ugly XML c

Re: [CentOS] Migrating away from Nagios

2010-06-18 Thread Les Mikesell
On 6/18/2010 12:06 PM, Joseph L. Casale wrote: >> It depends on what you are doing, but if it is mostly snmp data >> collection and icmp/tcp application monitoring, OpenNMS will probably do >> it out of the box with autodiscovery and no client setup. If you have >> lots of custom nagios client cod

Re: [CentOS] Migrating away from Nagios

2010-06-19 Thread Rajagopal Swaminathan
Greetings, On 6/18/10, Joseph L. Casale wrote: > I have to rebuild a new Nagios box and thought this might be a good time > to migrate away. Try Zabbix. It is very responsive. in forums, mailing lists, bugzilla, etc. Important: try trunk Regards, Rajagopal ___

Re: [CentOS] Migrating away from Nagios

2010-06-19 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 06/19/2010 09:39 AM, Rajagopal Swaminathan wrote: > It is very responsive. in forums, mailing lists, bugzilla, etc. > I can offer some insight into this. We recently moved a 150 node network from cacti / nagios / monit to Zabbix; Its been an exceptional mixed bag. The API is extremely basic,

Re: [CentOS] Migrating away from Nagios

2010-06-20 Thread Pasi Kärkkäinen
On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 12:24:41PM +0100, Karanbir Singh wrote: > On 06/19/2010 09:39 AM, Rajagopal Swaminathan wrote: > > It is very responsive. in forums, mailing lists, bugzilla, etc. > > > > I can offer some insight into this. > > We recently moved a 150 node network from cacti / nagios / mon

Re: [CentOS] Migrating away from Nagios

2010-06-21 Thread Les Mikesell
Jane Curry wrote: > I'd try Zenoss. I wrote a big paper comparing Nagios, OpenNMS and > Zenoss ( > http://www.skills-1st.co.uk/papers/jane/open_source_mgmt_options.html ) > - it's nearly 2 years back now but many of the basics are the same. > At that time, I plumped for Zenoss but, to be fair,

Re: [CentOS] Migrating away from Nagios

2010-06-21 Thread Whit Blauvelt
> Jane Curry wrote: > > I'd try Zenoss. I wrote a big paper comparing Nagios, OpenNMS and > > Zenoss ( > > http://www.skills-1st.co.uk/papers/jane/open_source_mgmt_options.html ) Thanks for sharing that, Jane. Great paper. On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 07:40:10AM -0500, Les Mikesell wrote: > Also Op

Re: [CentOS] Migrating away from Nagios

2010-06-21 Thread lhecking
> As Jane's paper makes clear, Nagios less the networking tool, and more the > extensible way to monitor specific systems and applications. If hand editing > configuration files scares you, it's not for you. But anything that's trying > to go fully GUI these days goes XML. And if hand editing conf

Re: [CentOS] Migrating away from Nagios

2010-06-21 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 20/06/2010 10:20, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote: >> of but dont seem keen on moving it forward. Which has the affect that >> everything on the management side ends up being point and click on a web >> interface ~ massive waste of time and counter productive. >> > > Care to talk a bit more about this

Re: [CentOS] Migrating away from Nagios

2010-06-21 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 21/06/2010 10:48, Jane Curry wrote: > On the Zenoss front, my main winges were the quality and reliability of > the documentation and the code. The other problem with Zenos is that its extremely slow, regularly fails to guarantee schedules and needs lots of resources. I'm a firm believer in

Re: [CentOS] Migrating away from Nagios

2010-06-21 Thread Les Mikesell
On 6/21/2010 9:24 AM, Karanbir Singh wrote: > On 20/06/2010 10:20, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote: >>> of but dont seem keen on moving it forward. Which has the affect that >>> everything on the management side ends up being point and click on a web >>> interface ~ massive waste of time and counter producti

Re: [CentOS] Migrating away from Nagios

2010-06-21 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 21/06/2010 15:47, Les Mikesell wrote: > Did you consider opennms - and if so was there a reason for not using > it? It has some integration for provisioning, but I'm not exactly sure > how it works and the latest release made some changes. its on the list of things I want to get to one day,

Re: [CentOS] Migrating away from Nagios

2010-06-21 Thread Les Mikesell
On 6/21/2010 8:57 AM, Whit Blauvelt wrote: > >> Also OpenNMS has had a lot of development in the last couple of years. >> Maps are in the core code, much more configuration can be done through the >> web interface > > All good stuff. But there's a big trade off. Web-based GUIs get coupled with

Re: [CentOS] Migrating away from Nagios

2010-06-21 Thread Les Mikesell
On 6/21/2010 10:01 AM, Karanbir Singh wrote: > >> Did you consider opennms - and if so was there a reason for not using >> it? It has some integration for provisioning, but I'm not exactly sure >> how it works and the latest release made some changes. > > its on the list of things I want to get to

Re: [CentOS] Migrating away from Nagios

2010-06-21 Thread Phil Manuel
- Original Message - > >> Did you consider opennms - and if so was there a reason for not using >> it? It has some integration for provisioning, but I'm not exactly sure >> how it works and the latest release made some changes. > > its on the list of things I want to get to one day, not

Re: [CentOS] Migrating away from Nagios

2010-06-21 Thread Rajagopal Swaminathan
Greetings, On 6/21/10, Jane Curry wrote: > > If you want further help, please ask! > Havwe you tried Zabbix, the NextGen NMS? Regards, Rajagopal ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos

Re: [CentOS] Migrating away from Nagios

2010-06-21 Thread Joseph L. Casale
>Has anyone looked at using icinga ? The forums are nearly dead, doesn't look like much of the Nagios folk jumped ship yet. Archives show next to no activity. Frankly, if I am migrating away from Nagios, I would likely be compelled to put any effort into a significant improvement like Zenoss or O

Re: [CentOS] Migrating away from Nagios

2010-06-22 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 22/06/2010 00:52, Phil Manuel wrote: > Has anyone looked at using icinga ? I know it replaces the front end of > nagios, and uses the same (slightly modified ?) backend, using the same > plugins. > Icinga is an interesting project, and there is work going on under the hood to make it a more

Re: [CentOS] Migrating away from Nagios

2010-06-22 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 21/06/2010 18:05, Les Mikesell wrote: > I didn't know about that, but the first googled hit says you are > supposed to be able to write reusable tests in a human-readable language > which sounds way too unrealistic to ever work. And I want a tool that > understands network equipment natively

Re: [CentOS] Migrating away from Nagios

2010-06-22 Thread Les Mikesell
On 6/22/2010 6:06 AM, Karanbir Singh wrote: > On 21/06/2010 18:05, Les Mikesell wrote: >> I didn't know about that, but the first googled hit says you are >> supposed to be able to write reusable tests in a human-readable language >> which sounds way too unrealistic to ever work. And I want a tool

Re: [CentOS] Migrating away from Nagios

2010-06-22 Thread Les Mikesell
On 6/21/2010 11:27 PM, Joseph L. Casale wrote: >> Has anyone looked at using icinga ? > > The forums are nearly dead, doesn't look like much of the Nagios > folk jumped ship yet. Archives show next to no activity. > > Frankly, if I am migrating away from Nagios, I would likely be compelled > to put

Re: [CentOS] Migrating away from Nagios

2010-06-22 Thread Andres Lucena
On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 6:53 AM, Rajagopal Swaminathan wrote: > Greetings, > > > On 6/21/10, Jane Curry wrote: >> >> If you want further help, please ask! >> > > > Havwe you tried Zabbix, the NextGen NMS? > +1 to Zabbix LAMP software, agent for all plataforms, script friendly, SNMP, IPMI, all t