Re: [CentOS] OT: AF 4k sector drives with 512 emulation

2015-02-28 Thread Chris Murphy
On Sat, Feb 28, 2015 at 12:33 AM, Robert Arkiletian wrote: > According to this pdf [1] alignment is important but from what I understand > 512e emulation still has a small RMW performance hit from writes that are > smaller than 4k or if the writes are not a multiple of 4k. There shouldn't be writ

Re: [CentOS] OT: AF 4k sector drives with 512 emulation

2015-02-27 Thread Robert Arkiletian
On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 2:59 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: > On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 1:53 PM, Robert Arkiletian > wrote: > > Still have good quality older sata hardware raid cards that require 512 > > bytes/sector. As far as I know HD manufacturers are not making native 512 > > bytes/sector drives any

Re: [CentOS] OT: AF 4k sector drives with 512 emulation

2015-02-27 Thread Chris Murphy
The default for fdisk, parted, and gdisk is starting the first partition on LBA 2048, which is 8 sector aligned. You don't need any options. The alternative is to simply not partition the drives or the resulting RAID and just format it. Chris Murphy ___

Re: [CentOS] OT: AF 4k sector drives with 512 emulation

2015-02-27 Thread John R Pierce
On 2/27/2015 3:06 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Alignment's easy: using parted (the user-hostile program), if you do go in with parted -a optimal /dev/drive, and do mkpart pri ext4 0.0GB 100% (for non-root drives, for example), it's aligned correctly. i found -a optimal to do weird things, and al

Re: [CentOS] OT: AF 4k sector drives with 512 emulation

2015-02-27 Thread m . roth
Chris Murphy wrote: > The emulation implementations don't come into play if the alignment is > correct from the start. The better implementations have significantly > less pathological behavior if alignment is wrong, but that's > anecdotal, I don't have any empirical data available. But I'd say in

Re: [CentOS] OT: AF 4k sector drives with 512 emulation

2015-02-27 Thread Chris Murphy
On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 1:53 PM, Robert Arkiletian wrote: > Still have good quality older sata hardware raid cards that require 512 > bytes/sector. As far as I know HD manufacturers are not making native 512 > bytes/sector drives any more. 512n drives still exist, although they tend to be a bit s

Re: [CentOS] OT: AF 4k sector drives with 512 emulation

2015-02-27 Thread John R Pierce
On 2/27/2015 12:53 PM, Robert Arkiletian wrote: Still have good quality older sata hardware raid cards that require 512 bytes/sector. As far as I know HD manufacturers are not making native 512 bytes/sector drives any more. Some have better 512e emulation than others. Looking for some advice on

[CentOS] OT: AF 4k sector drives with 512 emulation

2015-02-27 Thread Robert Arkiletian
Still have good quality older sata hardware raid cards that require 512 bytes/sector. As far as I know HD manufacturers are not making native 512 bytes/sector drives any more. Some have better 512e emulation than others. Looking for some advice on which to avoid and which are recommended. Thanks.