Re: [CentOS] Postfix mail server procedure

2011-11-14 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
On Sat, 2011-11-12 at 09:47 -0700, Craig White wrote: > On Sat, 2011-11-12 at 21:53 +0800, Christopher Chan wrote: > > On Saturday, November 12, 2011 01:01 AM, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: > > > Cyrus is incredibly reliable, stable and fast. And the latest 2.4.x > > > series closes numerous potentia

Re: [CentOS] Postfix mail server procedure

2011-11-12 Thread Craig White
On Sat, 2011-11-12 at 21:53 +0800, Christopher Chan wrote: > On Saturday, November 12, 2011 01:01 AM, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: > > People with bad hardware can break anything; and you're probably talking > > about old versions anyway [anything with indexes/databases can corrupt]. > > You should

Re: [CentOS] Postfix mail server procedure

2011-11-12 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 12.11.2011 14:53, schrieb Christopher Chan: > Oh, so Cyrus is another 'use a database as a mail store'? The other one > that I know of but cannot remember the name of uses postgresql for its > mailstore. the only REAl db-driven mailservr is dbmail and in combination with postfix-mysql-confi

Re: [CentOS] Postfix mail server procedure

2011-11-12 Thread Christopher Chan
On Saturday, November 12, 2011 01:04 AM, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: > +1 The shipped packages on most distributions are a bit lame; Simon's > packages are the way to go. They also provision everything as Skiplist > [Cyrus' preferred DB format] avoiding the ugliness that is Berkley DB > [issue wi

Re: [CentOS] Postfix mail server procedure

2011-11-12 Thread Christopher Chan
On Saturday, November 12, 2011 01:01 AM, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: > On Fri, 2011-11-11 at 13:23 +0800, Christopher Chan wrote: > You don't mention a mail store [IMAP Server]? Such as Cyrus IMAP. > Something for Postfix to deliver the mail too. Mail store != imap server. Mail store =

Re: [CentOS] Postfix mail server procedure

2011-11-11 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
On Thu, 2011-11-10 at 23:13 -0700, Craig White wrote: > > > > > > been using cyrus-imapd for years - eats dovecot for lunch in terms of > > > features/performance/reliability/scaling/flexibility and just about > > > every other imaginable use for an IMAP server. > > Hmm, I must give it a try o

Re: [CentOS] Postfix mail server procedure

2011-11-11 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
On Fri, 2011-11-11 at 13:23 +0800, Christopher Chan wrote: > >>> You don't mention a mail store [IMAP Server]? Such as Cyrus IMAP. > >>> Something for Postfix to deliver the mail too. > >> Mail store != imap server. Mail store = structure for mboxes/maildirs. > > Cyrus is sort of its own t

Re: [CentOS] Postfix mail server procedure

2011-11-11 Thread Les Mikesell
On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 9:11 AM, Craig White wrote: > >> Have you looked at the ClearOS implementation which should come up >> running out of the box connected to an LDAP user base? > > No but configuring cyrus-imapd & postfix for LDAP is trivial. In fact, once > you get clued in to LDAP, yo

Re: [CentOS] Postfix mail server procedure

2011-11-11 Thread Craig White
On Nov 11, 2011, at 6:24 AM, Les Mikesell wrote: > On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 12:13 AM, Craig White wrote: >> On Fri, 2011-11-11 at 13:38 +0800, Christopher Chan wrote: > been using cyrus-imapd for years - eats dovecot for lunch in terms of features/performance/reliability/scaling/flexib

Re: [CentOS] Postfix mail server procedure

2011-11-11 Thread Les Mikesell
On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 12:13 AM, Craig White wrote: > On Fri, 2011-11-11 at 13:38 +0800, Christopher Chan wrote: >> > been using cyrus-imapd for years - eats dovecot for lunch in terms of >> > features/performance/reliability/scaling/flexibility and just about >> > every other imaginable use for

Re: [CentOS] Postfix mail server procedure

2011-11-10 Thread Craig White
On Fri, 2011-11-11 at 13:38 +0800, Christopher Chan wrote: > On Friday, November 11, 2011 01:28 PM, Craig White wrote: > > On Fri, 2011-11-11 at 13:23 +0800, Christopher Chan wrote: > > > > > >> Sorry, I keep forgetting about that crap... > >> > >> Never touched it and never wanted to after I h

Re: [CentOS] Postfix mail server procedure

2011-11-10 Thread Craig White
On Fri, 2011-11-11 at 13:40 +0800, Christopher Chan wrote: > On Friday, November 11, 2011 01:31 PM, Craig White wrote: > > LMTP > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Local_Mail_Transfer_Protocol > > > > > > That's still nothing to do with imap/pop3 servers. dovecot provides an > LDA for just

Re: [CentOS] Postfix mail server procedure

2011-11-10 Thread Christopher Chan
On Friday, November 11, 2011 01:31 PM, Craig White wrote: > On Thu, 2011-11-10 at 21:12 -0800, John R Pierce wrote: > >> On 11/10/11 4:48 PM, Christopher Chan wrote: >> You don't mention a mail store [IMAP Server]? Such as Cyrus IMAP. > Something for Postfix to

Re: [CentOS] Postfix mail server procedure

2011-11-10 Thread Christopher Chan
On Friday, November 11, 2011 01:28 PM, Craig White wrote: > On Fri, 2011-11-11 at 13:23 +0800, Christopher Chan wrote: > > >> Sorry, I keep forgetting about that crap... >> >> Never touched it and never wanted to after I heard the screams from a >> friend who used cyrus and swore by it until he

Re: [CentOS] Postfix mail server procedure

2011-11-10 Thread Craig White
On Thu, 2011-11-10 at 21:12 -0800, John R Pierce wrote: > On 11/10/11 4:48 PM, Christopher Chan wrote: > >> You don't mention a mail store [IMAP Server]? Such as Cyrus IMAP. > >> > Something for Postfix to deliver the mail too. > >> > > > Mail store != imap server. Mail store = structure for mb

Re: [CentOS] Postfix mail server procedure

2011-11-10 Thread Craig White
On Fri, 2011-11-11 at 13:23 +0800, Christopher Chan wrote: > Sorry, I keep forgetting about that crap... > > Never touched it and never wanted to after I heard the screams from a > friend who used cyrus and swore by it until he got corrupt mailboxes. > Had to help setup postfix, dovecot and vpo

Re: [CentOS] Postfix mail server procedure

2011-11-10 Thread Les Mikesell
On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 11:23 PM, Christopher Chan wrote: >> >>> Mail store != imap server. Mail store = structure for mboxes/maildirs. >>> >>> >> Cyrus is sort of its own thing with its own mail store. >> > > Sorry, I keep forgetting about that crap... > > Never touched it and never wanted t

Re: [CentOS] Postfix mail server procedure

2011-11-10 Thread Christopher Chan
On Friday, November 11, 2011 01:00 PM, Les Mikesell wrote: > On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 6:48 PM, Christopher Chan > wrote: > >> >>> For CLAMAV you need to have clamd running and a milter. I'm not certain >>> what milter's are current - when I set one up they were all had equally >>> stale

Re: [CentOS] Postfix mail server procedure

2011-11-10 Thread John R Pierce
On 11/10/11 4:48 PM, Christopher Chan wrote: >> You don't mention a mail store [IMAP Server]? Such as Cyrus IMAP. >> > Something for Postfix to deliver the mail too. >> > > Mail store != imap server. Mail store = structure for mboxes/maildirs. indeed, reader protocol servers like imap, pop3, a

Re: [CentOS] Postfix mail server procedure

2011-11-10 Thread Les Mikesell
On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 6:48 PM, Christopher Chan wrote: > >> For CLAMAV you need to have clamd running and a milter.  I'm not certain >> what milter's are current - when I set one up they were all had equally >> stale documentation.  Does CentOS currently ship a working clamav >> milter? >> > > R

Re: [CentOS] Postfix mail server procedure

2011-11-10 Thread Christopher Chan
On Wednesday, November 09, 2011 07:23 PM, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: > On Wed, 2011-11-09 at 01:10 -0500, Jonathan Vomacka wrote: > >> CentOS Community >> I was wondering if anyone had a good resource or procedure for a step by >> step in installing a mail server with Centos. There ARE document

Re: [CentOS] Postfix mail server procedure

2011-11-10 Thread Bowie Bailey
On 11/9/2011 6:23 AM, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: > SPAMAssasin is a monster and the documentation is *BAD*. But I've > gotten it working. Just post specific questions. SpamAssassin is not THAT bad. There is a fair amount of info out there on how to integrate it with various mail servers. (http

Re: [CentOS] Postfix mail server procedure

2011-11-09 Thread Simon Slater
On Wed, 9 Nov 2011 20:33:23 Patrick Lists wrote: > On 11/09/2011 10:10 AM, Marius Vaitiekunas wrote: > > Hi, > > Maybe, somebody could recommend any good books about complete mail > > server open source solution? Sorry for OT. > > I found the "Postfix: the Definitive Guide" book by Kyle D. Dent ve

Re: [CentOS] Postfix mail server procedure

2011-11-09 Thread David C. Miller
- Original Message - > From: "Jonathan Vomacka" > To: centos@centos.org > Sent: Tuesday, November 8, 2011 10:10:28 PM > Subject: [CentOS] Postfix mail server procedure > > CentOS Community, > > I was wondering if anyone had a good resource or p

Re: [CentOS] Postfix mail server procedure

2011-11-09 Thread Mike Burger
> On 11/08/11 10:10 PM, Jonathan Vomacka wrote: > squirrelmail is not actually a mail server, its a web based mail > reader. its also not a standard part of the centos distribution. see > http://squirrelmail.org/ You sure about that? I've got a CentOS 5.6 system that I'm in the process of sta

Re: [CentOS] Postfix mail server procedure

2011-11-09 Thread Jussi Hirvi
On 9.11.2011 14.04, Jussi Hirvi wrote: > Looks like there is no similar "dual" setup for postfix. This postfix > tutorial does not look bad: > > http://www.wowtutorial.org/tutorial/169.html Uh, now I read some more of this thread and saw some (other) bad tutorials. This one is not so good either:

Re: [CentOS] Postfix mail server procedure

2011-11-09 Thread Jussi Hirvi
On 9.11.2011 13.23, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: > For CLAMAV you need to have clamd running and a milter. I'm not certain > what milter's are current - when I set one up they were all had equally > stale documentation. Does CentOS currently ship a working clamav > milter? Hope this is relevant. I

Re: [CentOS] Postfix mail server procedure

2011-11-09 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
On Wed, 2011-11-09 at 01:10 -0500, Jonathan Vomacka wrote: > CentOS Community > I was wondering if anyone had a good resource or procedure for a step by > step in installing a mail server with Centos. There ARE documents on > google, however almost all that i've found were outdated from 2005. Doe

Re: [CentOS] Postfix mail server procedure

2011-11-09 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
On Wed, 2011-11-09 at 02:58 -0600, John R. Dennison wrote: > On Wed, Nov 09, 2011 at 09:46:51AM +0100, Alexander Dalloz wrote: > > Am 09.11.2011 07:19, schrieb Leon Jacobs > > A strong NO! > Emphatically seconded. +1 Especially since CentOS 6 gives you pretty recent versions of everything. _

Re: [CentOS] Postfix mail server procedure

2011-11-09 Thread Les Bell
Alain Péan wrote: >> These two links, even if I read them rapidly, seem more accurate : http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/postfix http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/Amavisd << A few years ago, I followed the Postfix/amavisd/spamassassin/ClamAV HOWTO on the Centos Wiki and had two inbound mail gateways s

Re: [CentOS] Postfix mail server procedure

2011-11-09 Thread Patrick Lists
On 11/09/2011 10:10 AM, Marius Vaitiekunas wrote: > Hi, > Maybe, somebody could recommend any good books about complete mail > server open source solution? Sorry for OT. I found the "Postfix: the Definitive Guide" book by Kyle D. Dent very useful to learn about Postfix. There is also "The Book of

Re: [CentOS] Postfix mail server procedure

2011-11-09 Thread Alain Péan
Le 09/11/2011 10:02, Leon Jacobs a écrit : > On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 10:58 AM, John R. Dennison wrote: >> On Wed, Nov 09, 2011 at 09:46:51AM +0100, Alexander Dalloz wrote: >>> Am 09.11.2011 07:19, schrieb Leon Jacobs: >>> >>> A strong NO! >> Emphatically seconded. > Forgetting to add "A quick googl

Re: [CentOS] Postfix mail server procedure

2011-11-09 Thread Marius Vaitiekunas
On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 8:10 AM, Jonathan Vomacka wrote: > CentOS Community, > > I was wondering if anyone had a good resource or procedure for a step by > step in installing a mail server with Centos. There ARE documents on > google, however almost all that i've found were outdated from 2005. Does

Re: [CentOS] Postfix mail server procedure

2011-11-09 Thread Leon Jacobs
On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 10:58 AM, John R. Dennison wrote: > On Wed, Nov 09, 2011 at 09:46:51AM +0100, Alexander Dalloz wrote: >> Am 09.11.2011 07:19, schrieb Leon Jacobs: >> >> A strong NO! > > Emphatically seconded. Forgetting to add "A quick google came up with..." and not reading the article, i

Re: [CentOS] Postfix mail server procedure

2011-11-09 Thread John R. Dennison
On Wed, Nov 09, 2011 at 09:46:51AM +0100, Alexander Dalloz wrote: > Am 09.11.2011 07:19, schrieb Leon Jacobs: > > A strong NO! Emphatically seconded. > That "howto" tinstructs to run through source installs on CentOS. A > really bad habit. Even completeley unnecessary. Most of the howto's I've s

Re: [CentOS] Postfix mail server procedure

2011-11-09 Thread Alexander Dalloz
Am 09.11.2011 07:19, schrieb Leon Jacobs: > http://www.howtoforge.com/virtual-users-and-domains-with-postfix-courier-mysql-and-squirrelmail-centos-6.0-x86_64 A strong NO! That "howto" tinstructs to run through source installs on CentOS. A really bad habit. Even completeley unnecessary. And nob

Re: [CentOS] Postfix mail server procedure

2011-11-09 Thread Christopher Chan
On Wednesday, November 09, 2011 02:36 PM, John R Pierce wrote: > On 11/08/11 10:10 PM, Jonathan Vomacka wrote: > >> I was wondering if anyone had a good resource or procedure for a step by >> step in installing a mail server with Centos. There ARE documents on >> google, however almost all that

Re: [CentOS] Postfix mail server procedure

2011-11-08 Thread John R Pierce
On 11/08/11 10:10 PM, Jonathan Vomacka wrote: > I was wondering if anyone had a good resource or procedure for a step by > step in installing a mail server with Centos. There ARE documents on > google, however almost all that i've found were outdated from 2005. Does > anyone know where I can find t

Re: [CentOS] Postfix mail server procedure

2011-11-08 Thread Leon Jacobs
http://www.howtoforge.com/virtual-users-and-domains-with-postfix-courier-mysql-and-squirrelmail-centos-6.0-x86_64 On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 8:10 AM, Jonathan Vomacka wrote: > CentOS Community, > > I was wondering if anyone had a good resource or procedure for a step by > step in installing a mail se

[CentOS] Postfix mail server procedure

2011-11-08 Thread Jonathan Vomacka
CentOS Community, I was wondering if anyone had a good resource or procedure for a step by step in installing a mail server with Centos. There ARE documents on google, however almost all that i've found were outdated from 2005. Does anyone know where I can find this type of document for a mails