Re: [CentOS] Raid 10 questions...2 drive

2010-09-27 Thread John Doe
From: Tom Bishop bisho...@gmail.com Thanks everyone for the input...I have decided to go with the f2 option, however the rebuild time seems to be taking quite a long time, almost 24hr...I have read that there are options for speeding this up but want to make sure that they are ok to

Re: [CentOS] Raid 10 questions...2 drive

2010-09-26 Thread Tom Bishop
Thanks everyone for the input...I have decided to go with the f2 option, however the rebuild time seems to be taking quite a long time, almost 24hr...I have read that there are options for speeding this up but want to make sure that they are ok to dohas to do with setting the minimum speed

Re: [CentOS] Raid 10 questions...2 drive

2010-09-25 Thread Benjamin Franz
On 09/24/2010 07:50 PM, Digimer wrote: Raid 10 requires 4 drives. First you would make two RAID 0 arrays, then create a third array that is RAID 1 using the two RAID 0 arrays for it's devices. With only two drives, your option is RAID 1 (mirroring - proper redundancy) or RAID 0 (striping

Re: [CentOS] Raid 10 questions...2 drive

2010-09-25 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 09/25/2010 01:06 PM, Benjamin Franz wrote: If you have a single drive failure with RAID 0+1 you've lost *all* of your redundancy - one more failure and you are dead. If you create two Things get a bit 'grey' with the mdraid10 and extentions, look at :

Re: [CentOS] Raid 10 questions...2 drive

2010-09-25 Thread Christopher Chan
Jacob Bresciani wrote: RAID10 requires at least 4 drives does it not? Since it's a strip set of mirrored disks, the smallest configuration I can see is 4 disks, 2 mirrored pairs stripped. He might be referring to what he can get from the mdraid10 (i know, Neil Brown could have chosen a

Re: [CentOS] Raid 10 questions...2 drive

2010-09-25 Thread Ross Walker
On Sep 25, 2010, at 9:11 AM, Christopher Chan christopher.c...@bradbury.edu.hk wrote: Jacob Bresciani wrote: RAID10 requires at least 4 drives does it not? Since it's a strip set of mirrored disks, the smallest configuration I can see is 4 disks, 2 mirrored pairs stripped. He might be

Re: [CentOS] Raid 10 questions...2 drive

2010-09-25 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 11:48 AM, Ross Walker rswwal...@gmail.com wrote: On Sep 25, 2010, at 9:11 AM, Christopher Chan christopher.c...@bradbury.edu.hk wrote: Jacob Bresciani wrote: RAID10 requires at least 4 drives does it not? Since it's a strip set of mirrored disks, the smallest

Re: [CentOS] Raid 10 questions...2 drive

2010-09-25 Thread Ross Walker
On Sep 25, 2010, at 1:52 PM, Tom H tomh0...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 11:48 AM, Ross Walker rswwal...@gmail.com wrote: On Sep 25, 2010, at 9:11 AM, Christopher Chan christopher.c...@bradbury.edu.hk wrote: Jacob Bresciani wrote: RAID10 requires at least 4 drives does it not?

Re: [CentOS] Raid 10 questions...2 drive

2010-09-25 Thread Miguel Medalha
And don't do it that way. If you have a single drive failure with RAID 0+1 you've lost *all* of your redundancy - one more failure and you are dead. If you create two RAID1 sets and then strip them into a RAID0 you get pretty much the same performance and space efficiency characteristics,

Re: [CentOS] Raid 10 questions...2 drive

2010-09-25 Thread Tom Bishop
Thanks for all of the inputs...I finally came across a good article summarizing what I needed, looks like I am going to try to the f2 option and then do some testing vs the default n2 option. I am building the array as we speak but it looks like building the f2 option will take 24hrs vs 2hrs for

Re: [CentOS] Raid 10 questions...2 drive

2010-09-25 Thread Miguel Medalha
Mdraid10 actually allows for a 3 drive raid10 set. It isn't raid10 per say but a raid level based on distributing copies of chunks around the spindles for redundancy. Isn't this what they call RAID 1e (RAID 1 Enhanced), which needs a minimum of 3 drives? This seems to me a much better

Re: [CentOS] Raid 10 questions...2 drive

2010-09-25 Thread Nataraj
Miguel Medalha wrote: Mdraid10 actually allows for a 3 drive raid10 set. It isn't raid10 per say but a raid level based on distributing copies of chunks around the spindles for redundancy. Isn't this what they call RAID 1e (RAID 1 Enhanced), which needs a minimum of 3 drives? This

Re: [CentOS] Raid 10 questions...2 drive

2010-09-25 Thread Ross Walker
On Sep 25, 2010, at 4:15 PM, Miguel Medalha miguelmeda...@sapo.pt wrote: Mdraid10 actually allows for a 3 drive raid10 set. It isn't raid10 per say but a raid level based on distributing copies of chunks around the spindles for redundancy. Isn't this what they call RAID 1e (RAID 1

Re: [CentOS] Raid 10 questions...2 drive

2010-09-25 Thread Miguel Medalha
The raid1e type probably didn't exist when Neil Brown came up with the algorithm. You are probably right. He should have patented it though... Maybe... Maybe he started out with the idea to create a raid10, but didn't want the complexity of managing sub-arrays so decided just to

Re: [CentOS] Raid 10 questions...2 drive

2010-09-25 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 4:04 PM, Ross Walker rswwal...@gmail.com wrote: On Sep 25, 2010, at 1:52 PM, Tom H tomh0...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 11:48 AM, Ross Walker rswwal...@gmail.com wrote: On Sep 25, 2010, at 9:11 AM, Christopher Chan christopher.c...@bradbury.edu.hk wrote:

[CentOS] Raid 10 questions...2 drive

2010-09-24 Thread Tom Bishop
I have been reading lots of stuff but trying to find out if a raid10 2drive setup is any better/worse than a normal raid 1 setupI have to 1Tb drives for my data and a seperate system drive, I am only interested in doing raid on my data... So i setup my initial test like this mdadm -v

Re: [CentOS] Raid 10 questions...2 drive

2010-09-24 Thread Digimer
On 10-09-24 10:27 PM, Tom Bishop wrote: I have been reading lots of stuff but trying to find out if a raid10 2drive setup is any better/worse than a normal raid 1 setupI have to 1Tb drives for my data and a seperate system drive, I am only interested in doing raid on my data... So i

Re: [CentOS] Raid 10 questions...2 drive

2010-09-24 Thread Jacob Bresciani
RAID10 requires at least 4 drives does it not? Since it's a strip set of mirrored disks, the smallest configuration I can see is 4 disks, 2 mirrored pairs stripped. On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 7:27 PM, Tom Bishop bisho...@gmail.com wrote: I have been reading lots of stuff but trying to find out if

Re: [CentOS] Raid 10 questions...2 drive

2010-09-24 Thread Jacob Bresciani
On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 7:50 PM, Digimer li...@alteeve.com wrote: On 10-09-24 10:27 PM, Tom Bishop wrote: I have been reading lots of stuff but trying to find out if a raid10 2drive setup is any better/worse than a normal raid 1 setupI have to 1Tb drives for my data and a seperate

Re: [CentOS] Raid 10 questions...2 drive

2010-09-24 Thread tomh0665
On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 10:50 PM, Digimer li...@alteeve.com wrote: On 10-09-24 10:27 PM, Tom Bishop wrote: I have been reading lots of stuff but trying to find out if a raid10 2drive setup is any better/worse than a normal raid 1 setupI have to 1Tb drives for my data and a seperate system