Re: [CentOS] Re: Ole Fossils [ was Re: ls and rm: "argument list too long"]

2008-10-26 Thread Robert
Jay Leafey wrote: I remember numbering on the back of cards with a pencil as a backup when you dropped the deck. And of course you numbered by tens just in case you had to insert something. I always took a magic-marker and made a diagonal line across the top of the deck. Made the initial

Re: [CentOS] Re: Ole Fossils [ was Re: ls and rm: "argument list too long"]

2008-10-26 Thread Jay Leafey
I remember numbering on the back of cards with a pencil as a backup when you dropped the deck. And of course you numbered by tens just in case you had to insert something. I always took a magic-marker and made a diagonal line across the top of the deck. Made the initial rough sort after a "dec

Re: [CentOS] Re: Ole Fossils [ was Re: ls and rm: "argument list too long"]

2008-10-26 Thread David G. Mackay
On Sat, 2008-10-25 at 15:03 -0700, Steven Vishoot wrote: > Gees i feel like i am at an ole farts convention, with this thread. :-D Run along home, sonny. :) Dave ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/cento

Re: [CentOS] Re: Ole Fossils [ was Re: ls and rm: "argument list too long"]

2008-10-26 Thread David G. Mackay
On Sat, 2008-10-25 at 15:02 -0700, Bill Campbell wrote: > The COMNET time sharing service in D.C. used the B-5500. It was formed by > several ex G.E. time sharing people, and we were one of their first beta > (and largest) customers, so I tended to get what I asked for. On the other > hand if s

Re: [CentOS] Re: Ole Fossils [ was Re: ls and rm: "argument list too long"]

2008-10-25 Thread Nifty Cluster Mitch
On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 12:16:23PM -0400, William L. Maltby wrote: > On Sat, 2008-10-25 at 12:14 -0400, William L. Maltby wrote: > > > > > Circa 1971/2(?), we had an IBM S360/30 with 64K (that's right, "K", "M") > s/"M"/not "M"/ I wish I still had some of my 789 and 6789 cards. If only to use

Re: [CentOS] Re: Ole Fossils [ was Re: ls and rm: "argument list too long"]

2008-10-25 Thread Steven Vishoot
- Original Message > From: David G. Mackay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: CentOS mailing list > Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2008 4:18:01 PM > Subject: Re: [CentOS] Re: Ole Fossils [ was Re: ls and rm: "argument list too > long"] > > > On Sat,

Re: [CentOS] Re: Ole Fossils [ was Re: ls and rm: "argument list too long"]

2008-10-25 Thread Bill Campbell
On Sat, Oct 25, 2008, David G. Mackay wrote: > >On Sat, 2008-10-25 at 12:10 -0700, Bill Campbell wrote: > >> My first Burroughs experience was on the B-5500, and it had some >> ``interesting'' quirks. Using Burroughs extended ALGOL, one could do what >> they called array row writes to very efficie

Re: [CentOS] Re: Ole Fossils [ was Re: ls and rm: "argument list too long"]

2008-10-25 Thread David G. Mackay
On Sat, 2008-10-25 at 12:10 -0700, Bill Campbell wrote: > My first Burroughs experience was on the B-5500, and it had some > ``interesting'' quirks. Using Burroughs extended ALGOL, one could do what > they called array row writes to very efficiently write large chunks of > memory with a single h

Re: [CentOS] Re: Ole Fossils [ was Re: ls and rm: "argument list too long"]

2008-10-25 Thread Bill Campbell
On Sat, Oct 25, 2008, David G. Mackay wrote: >On Sat, 2008-10-25 at 10:30 -0700, Bill Campbell wrote: > >> And our Burroughs B-3500 would run circles around the 360/50. >> The Burroughs had a whopping 200KB of memory, ran an average of >> 20 jobs in the mix, and didn't require 40 JCL cards to compi

Re: [CentOS] Re: Ole Fossils [ was Re: ls and rm: "argument list too long"]

2008-10-25 Thread William L. Maltby
On Sat, 2008-10-25 at 10:30 -0700, Bill Campbell wrote: > > > > >It did the job too. It was several years before we upgraded to a S360/50 > >with 512K (IIRC). > > And our Burroughs B-3500 would run circles around the 360/50. > The Burroughs had a whopping 200KB of memory, ran an average of > 20

Re: [CentOS] Re: Ole Fossils [ was Re: ls and rm: "argument list too long"]

2008-10-25 Thread David G. Mackay
On Sat, 2008-10-25 at 10:30 -0700, Bill Campbell wrote: > And our Burroughs B-3500 would run circles around the 360/50. > The Burroughs had a whopping 200KB of memory, ran an average of > 20 jobs in the mix, and didn't require 40 JCL cards to compile > and run a one line Hello World FORTRAN progra

Re: [CentOS] Re: Ole Fossils [ was Re: ls and rm: "argument list too long"]

2008-10-25 Thread David G. Mackay
On Sat, 2008-10-25 at 12:16 -0400, William L. Maltby wrote: > On Sat, 2008-10-25 at 12:14 -0400, William L. Maltby wrote: > > > > > Circa 1971/2(?), we had an IBM S360/30 with 64K (that's right, "K", "M") > s/"M"/not "M"/ Yep. The first computer I programmed on was an IBM 1130 with 16K of core

Re: [CentOS] Re: Ole Fossils [ was Re: ls and rm: "argument list too long"]

2008-10-25 Thread Bill Campbell
On Sat, Oct 25, 2008, William L. Maltby wrote: > >On Sat, 2008-10-25 at 10:17 -0500, David G. Mackay wrote: >> > >> Then came CANDE, TD8xx terminals, and editing on your head-per-track >> disk. Ah for the good old days, when men were men, and memory upgrades >> involved fork lifts. >I tried to s

Re: [CentOS] Re: Ole Fossils [ was Re: ls and rm: "argument list too long"]

2008-10-25 Thread William L. Maltby
On Sat, 2008-10-25 at 12:14 -0400, William L. Maltby wrote: > > Circa 1971/2(?), we had an IBM S360/30 with 64K (that's right, "K", "M") s/"M"/not "M"/ -- Bill ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos

Re: [CentOS] Re: Ole Fossils [ was Re: ls and rm: "argument list too long"]

2008-10-25 Thread William L. Maltby
On Sat, 2008-10-25 at 10:17 -0500, David G. Mackay wrote: > > Then came CANDE, TD8xx terminals, and editing on your head-per-track > disk. Ah for the good old days, when men were men, and memory upgrades > involved fork lifts. I tried to stay out of this thread, I really did. But the "forklift

[CentOS] Re: Ole Fossils [ was Re: ls and rm: "argument list too long"]

2008-10-25 Thread Scott Silva
> > I always laughed at the early quiz shows where they had a ``computer'' > selecting the questions -- where the computer was really a card sorter that > would select the picked question into a specific bin. > > Bill Knowing Hollywood, it was probably a prop, with a human behind it sorting the

Re: [CentOS] Re: Ole Fossils [ was Re: ls and rm: "argument list too long"]

2008-10-25 Thread David G. Mackay
On Fri, 2008-10-24 at 18:09 -0700, Bill Campbell wrote: > The Burroughs Medium Systems mainframes I worked on allowed one to store > the program on disk, then compile with modifications in a card deck, using > the sequence numbers to replace or insert lines from the cards. There were > options t

Re: [CentOS] Re: Ole Fossils [ was Re: ls and rm: "argument list too long"]

2008-10-24 Thread Bill Campbell
On Fri, Oct 24, 2008, Phil Schaffner wrote: >On Fri, 2008-10-24 at 16:16 -0700, Raymond Lillard wrote: >> That's why you punch sequence numbers in the >> last 8 columns. :-) > >... and some of the fancier card readers would even sort them for you, >but remember to number by some integer >> 1 or yo

Re: [CentOS] Re: Ole Fossils [ was Re: ls and rm: "argument list too long"]

2008-10-24 Thread Phil Schaffner
On Fri, 2008-10-24 at 16:16 -0700, Raymond Lillard wrote: > That's why you punch sequence numbers in the > last 8 columns. :-) ... and some of the fancier card readers would even sort them for you, but remember to number by some integer >> 1 or you had to redo the whole remainder of the deck to i

Re: [CentOS] Re: Ole Fossils [ was Re: ls and rm: "argument list too long"]

2008-10-24 Thread Raymond Lillard
Scott Silva wrote: > on 10-24-2008 3:21 PM Phil Schaffner spake the following: >> On Fri, 2008-10-24 at 14:19 -0400, Ed Westphal wrote: >>> Forgive my senility, but I'm continually amazed how many of us ole >>> fossils are still around, and running Linux! Not to use up too much >>> bandwidth, but

[CentOS] Re: Ole Fossils [ was Re: ls and rm: "argument list too long"]

2008-10-24 Thread Scott Silva
on 10-24-2008 3:21 PM Phil Schaffner spake the following: > On Fri, 2008-10-24 at 14:19 -0400, Ed Westphal wrote: >> Forgive my senility, but I'm continually amazed how many of us ole >> fossils are still around, and running Linux! Not to use up too much >> bandwidth, but the switch from Fortran