On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 3:40 PM, Warren Young wrote:
>
>> The beauty of the original K12LTSP respin was that just
>> you did a normal fill-in-the-form install pretty much like any
>> fedora/centos
>
> If you insist on having a whole OS dedicated to this, I guess you could go
> fork Raspbian (http
On Oct 14, 2014, at 1:34 PM, Les Mikesell wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 2:10 PM, Warren Young wrote:
>>
>> It should be trivial to set up an actual RPi to do that.
>
> The beauty of the original K12LTSP respin was that just
> you did a normal fill-in-the-form install pretty much like any
>
On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 2:10 PM, Warren Young wrote:
>
>> But, I'm kind of surprised that someone hasn't done a raspberry-pi
>> type device that boots directly into x2go and comes out cheaper than a
>> video card per seat. Haven't needed one badly enough to build it
>> myself yet.
>
> It should b
On Oct 14, 2014, at 12:19 PM, Les Mikesell wrote:
> But, I'm kind of surprised that someone hasn't done a raspberry-pi
> type device that boots directly into x2go and comes out cheaper than a
> video card per seat. Haven't needed one badly enough to build it
> myself yet.
It should be trivial t
On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 12:24 PM, Marcelo Ricardo Leitner
wrote:
> >>
>> Both are packaged and fairly easy to try on CentOS 6. On 7, only
>> x2go is available and it has a problem with the 3d requirement of
>> Gnome3 so you have to use KDE or install MATE from EPEL.
>
>
> Ah, just remembered one
On 13-10-2014 16:18, Les Mikesell wrote:
On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 2:03 PM, Valeri Galtsev
wrote:
Being able to grab your existing desktop remotely with all open
windows and long-running programs intact is a big plus, though - and
you get that for free with NX or x2go. Can you connect remotel
On 2014-10-13, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
> On Mon, October 13, 2014 1:50 pm, Les Mikesell wrote:
>>
>> Being able to grab your existing desktop remotely with all open
>> windows and long-running programs intact is a big plus, though - and
>> you get that for free with NX or x2go.
>
> How much differen
On Mon, October 13, 2014 1:50 pm, Les Mikesell wrote:
> Being able to grab your existing desktop remotely with all open
> windows and long-running programs intact is a big plus, though - and
> you get that for free with NX or x2go. Can you connect remotely to
> your VM host some other way if you a
On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 2:03 PM, Valeri Galtsev
wrote:
>
>>
>> Being able to grab your existing desktop remotely with all open
>> windows and long-running programs intact is a big plus, though - and
>> you get that for free with NX or x2go. Can you connect remotely to
>> your VM host some other w
On Mon, October 13, 2014 1:50 pm, Les Mikesell wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 9:01 AM, Chris Beattie
> wrote:
>> On 10/13/2014 7:17 AM, Steve Clark wrote:> Yes but you have to be
>> physically close to the main cpu. What about
>>> distractions from other people sitting right next to you?
>>> Pl
On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 9:01 AM, Chris Beattie wrote:
> On 10/13/2014 7:17 AM, Steve Clark wrote:> Yes but you have to be physically
> close to the main cpu. What about
>> distractions from other people sitting right next to you?
>> Playing music, etc.
>
> That's not all that different from moder
On 10/13/2014 7:17 AM, Steve Clark wrote:> Yes but you have to be physically
close to the main cpu. What about
> distractions from other people sitting right next to you?
> Playing music, etc.
That's not all that different from modern cube farms. You learn to tolerate or
ignore other people, o
On 10/11/2014 08:07 AM, Marcelo Ricardo Leitner wrote:
On 09-10-2014 14:13, Les Mikesell wrote:
On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 11:51 AM, Steve Clark wrote:
What exactly does that mean - multi seat environments?
http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/multiseat/
Ok I read the information. S
On 09-10-2014 14:13, Les Mikesell wrote:
On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 11:51 AM, Steve Clark wrote:
What exactly does that mean - multi seat environments?
http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/multiseat/
Ok I read the information. So as I understand it you are going have a
computer th
On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 05:33:22PM -0500, Les Mikesell wrote:
>
> What happens to ownership of a DVD or audio device when a different
> user logs in at the console - even if some other remote user wants to
> access them? The magic is more about ConsoleKit and PolicyKit than
> specifically system
On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 3:56 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
>
>
> Am 10.10.2014 um 22:38 schrieb Les Mikesell:
>
>> On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 3:18 PM, Chris Adams wrote:
>>>
>>> Once upon a time, Marko Vojinovic said:
I don't really see how systemd violates the "do one thing and do it
wel
On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 3:18 PM, Chris Adams wrote:
> Once upon a time, Marko Vojinovic said:
>> I don't really see how systemd violates the "do one thing and do it
>> well" philosophy.
>
> systemd (as PID 1) is not necessarily the problem. The problem IMHO is
> the systemd _project_ that appear
On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 09:13:13PM +0100, Marko Vojinovic wrote:
> It appears to me that much of bashing of systemd is just FUD. One of
> the typical misconceptions is the disable vs. mask for services ---
> despite appearances, the systemd "disable" does *exactly* the same
> thing that SYSV "disab
Once upon a time, Marko Vojinovic said:
> I don't really see how systemd violates the "do one thing and do it
> well" philosophy.
systemd (as PID 1) is not necessarily the problem. The problem IMHO is
the systemd _project_ that appears to have a severe case of scope creep.
They have swallowed up
On 10/10/2014 1:13 PM, Marko Vojinovic wrote:
It appears to me that much of bashing of systemd is just FUD.
...
But people simply refuse to understand
it (or never even bother to learn the details), and keep bashing
systemd for making the distinction between disabling and masking a
service.
I'
On Fri, 10 Oct 2014 11:05:19 -0500 (CDT)
"Valeri Galtsev" wrote:
> It is about fundamental approach. We always modularize things: split
> into smaller subunits each of the last doing its smaller task. This
> allows to make smaller things work reliably, and test these smaller
> things more comprehe
On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 02:37:01PM -0500, Les Mikesell wrote:
> A simple 'ps uf -p 1' on a couple of machines shows about 10x the
> resident memory use and 5x virtual on Centos 7 vs. 5.x. And yet, the
> programs that it started don't show any improvement for the extra
> cost.
So, the extra memory
On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 2:23 PM, Jonathan Billings wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 11:05:19AM -0500, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
>> We had this "modular" system V
>> boot until recently. We lost it. We got "iPhone, with whatever you can get
>> in App store" instead. And not all of us are pleased by thi
On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 11:05:19AM -0500, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
> We had this "modular" system V
> boot until recently. We lost it. We got "iPhone, with whatever you can get
> in App store" instead. And not all of us are pleased by this change. And,
> BTW, there was one of the posts of MS Windows b
On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 11:14 AM, Always Learning wrote:
>
>> It is about fundamental approach. We always modularize things: split into
>> smaller subunits each of the last doing its smaller task. This allows to
>> make smaller things work reliably, and test these smaller things more
>> comprehens
On Fri, 2014-10-10 at 11:05 -0500, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
> It is about fundamental approach. We always modularize things: split into
> smaller subunits each of the last doing its smaller task. This allows to
> make smaller things work reliably, and test these smaller things more
> comprehensively
On Fri, 2014-10-10 at 11:51 -0400, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
> Always Learning wrote:
> > Systemd should be been much more widely discussed with the general
> > Linux / Red Hat and clones community. I am sure beneficial improvements
> > would have been proposed and, hopefully, implemented prior to
On Fri, October 10, 2014 10:46 am, Always Learning wrote:
>
> On Wed, 2014-10-08 at 14:22 -0400, Digimer wrote:
>
>> Change is good.
>
> Change is inevitable in life. Virtually everything changes including the
> eventual decline of our sun. Not sure about atomic weights or the value
> of Pi (3.14
On Wed, 2014-10-08 at 14:22 -0400, Digimer wrote:
> Change is good.
Change is inevitable in life. Virtually everything changes including the
eventual decline of our sun. Not sure about atomic weights or the value
of Pi (3.142) or E=mc² Perhaps they break the rule that everything
changes.
Being
On Wed, 2014-10-08 at 12:45 -0500, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
> When someone is saying "they are looking into hiring hitman for me" I'm
> not only questioning sanity of "them" (and we know many examples when
> majority is nasty), but also sanity of person who claims that.
The harsh reality of life is
On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 1:12 PM, Leon Fauster wrote:
> Am 09.10.2014 um 16:57 schrieb Les Mikesell :
>> I have. And I know how to. Ascii sort order is a straightforward
>> concept for both humans and computers. I knew how to deal with
>> scenarios with subtle issues like the network service 'com
Am 09.10.2014 um 16:57 schrieb Les Mikesell :
> I have. And I know how to. Ascii sort order is a straightforward
> concept for both humans and computers. I knew how to deal with
> scenarios with subtle issues like the network service 'completing'
> startup even though the connected switch was st
On 10/09/2014 01:13 PM, Les Mikesell wrote:
On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 11:51 AM, Steve Clark wrote:
What exactly does that mean - multi seat environments?
http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/multiseat/
Ok I read the information. So as I understand it you are going have a
computer th
On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 11:51 AM, Steve Clark wrote:
> >>>
>>> What exactly does that mean - multi seat environments?
>>
>> http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/multiseat/
>>
> Ok I read the information. So as I understand it you are going have a
> computer that
> has multiple graphics
Once upon a time, Steve Clark said:
> Ok I read the information. So as I understand it you are going have a
> computer that
> has multiple graphics cards with multiple keyboards and multiple mice divided
> into
> seats. Really?
>
> Where do I buy this computer?
Umm, Wal-Mart? Best Buy? You d
On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 11:35 AM, Valeri Galtsev
wrote:
>
> I'd rather have people look at this:
>
> http://www.zdnet.com/linus-torvalds-and-others-on-linuxs-systemd-733847/
>
Yes, "much too cavalier about bugs and compatibility" is exactly
right. Never mind the fact that you break everythin
On 10/09/2014 09:57 AM, Jonathan Billings wrote:
On Thu, Oct 09, 2014 at 07:12:50AM -0400, Steve Clark wrote:
Hi Jonathan,
What exactly does that mean - multi seat environments?
http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/multiseat/
Ok I read the information. So as I understand it you a
On Thu, October 9, 2014 11:12 am, James B. Byrne wrote:
>
> On Wed, October 8, 2014 13:36, Les Mikesell wrote:
>> On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 12:22 PM, Robert Arkiletian
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Just a heads up to those who haven't seen this yet. The main author of
>>> systemd publicly wrote about being basi
On Wed, October 8, 2014 14:49, Les Mikesell wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 1:33 PM, Digimer wrote:
>> >> On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 1:22 PM, Digimer wrote:
>
>
Airbags, ABS, Traction Control, ACE compatibility, stronger survival
space,
better fuel economy, more comfortable...
On Wed, October 8, 2014 13:36, Les Mikesell wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 12:22 PM, Robert Arkiletian wrote:
>>
>> Just a heads up to those who haven't seen this yet. The main author of
>> systemd publicly wrote about being basically persecuted.
>>
>> https://plus.google.com/u/0/+LennartPoetter
On Wed, October 8, 2014 11:31 pm, John R. Dennison wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 08, 2014 at 07:16:16PM -0700, Keith Keller wrote:
>>
>> I can't speak for John, but presumably you were singled out for making
>> your complaint in a completely ridiculous and inappropriate way.
>
> Please take this pissing co
On Thu, October 9, 2014 6:09 am, Leon Fauster wrote:
> Am 08.10.2014 um 19:35 schrieb Valeri Galtsev :
>>
>> On Wed, October 8, 2014 12:22 pm, Robert Arkiletian wrote:
>>> On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 10:08 AM, wrote:
>>>
Jonathan Billings wrote:
And the point of it is?
Can som
On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 9:05 AM, Leon Fauster wrote:
> >>
>>> But what am I doing. The World passed that point...
>>>
>>
>> I guess debugging the GUIs that make the config files accessible will
>> be job security for the young guys that replace us...
>
>
>
> Are you serious? Do you provide manually
Am 09.10.2014 um 15:07 schrieb Les Mikesell :
> On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 8:02 AM, Valeri Galtsev
> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Really? What application could you not start with sysv init syntax?
>>> What CPU has become too slow to start things serially? What feature
>>> do you need that could not have bee
On Thu, Oct 09, 2014 at 07:12:50AM -0400, Steve Clark wrote:
> Hi Jonathan,
>
> What exactly does that mean - multi seat environments?
http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/multiseat/
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On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 8:02 AM, Valeri Galtsev
wrote:
>
>>> was - the requirements at that time were nearly/completely
>>> different. We have different scenarios right now.
>>
>> Really? What application could you not start with sysv init syntax?
>> What CPU has become too slow to start things se
On Thu, October 9, 2014 7:37 am, Les Mikesell wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 6:19 AM, Leon Fauster
> wrote:
>> >>
But so did other systems, but they later found out that sometimes you
have
to break this backwards to infinity compatibility in order to get some
big
progres
On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 6:19 AM, Leon Fauster wrote:
> >>
>>> But so did other systems, but they later found out that sometimes you have
>>> to break this backwards to infinity compatibility in order to get some big
>>> progress.
>>
>> Only if the design was bad in the first place. And if the desi
Am 08.10.2014 um 20:25 schrieb Les Mikesell :
>
> On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 1:11 PM, Marcelo Ricardo Leitner
> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> But oddly, he didn't even mention that there would be a real simple
>>> solution - just add backwards-compatible improvements instead of
>>> actively wrecking the inter
Am 08.10.2014 um 20:18 schrieb m.r...@5-cent.us:
> Marcelo Ricardo Leitner wrote:
>> On 08-10-2014 14:36, Les Mikesell wrote:
>>> On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 12:22 PM, Robert Arkiletian
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> But oddly, he didn't even mention that there would be a real simple
>>> solution - just add backw
On 10/08/2014 07:39 PM, Jonathan Billings wrote:
On Oct 8, 2014, at 6:58 PM, Jonathan Billings wrote:
3.) better support multi-seat environments
Errr... I meant that moving it to userspace makes it easier to support
multi-seat environments.
Hi Jonathan,
What exactly does that mean - multi s
Am 08.10.2014 um 19:35 schrieb Valeri Galtsev :
>
> On Wed, October 8, 2014 12:22 pm, Robert Arkiletian wrote:
>> On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 10:08 AM, wrote:
>>
>>> Jonathan Billings wrote:
>>>
>>> And the point of it is?
>>>
>>> Can someone just send the team that's working systemd on a nice
>>>
On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 7:25 AM, Les Mikesell wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 1:11 PM, Marcelo Ricardo Leitner
> wrote:
> > >>>
> >>>
> https://plus.google.com/u/0/+LennartPoetteringTheOneAndOnly/posts/J2TZrTvu7vd
> >>
> >>
>
> No, do you dig a new foundation for your house every 10 years? Tra
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On Wed, Oct 08, 2014 at 07:16:16PM -0700, Keith Keller wrote:
>
> I can't speak for John, but presumably you were singled out for making
> your complaint in a completely ridiculous and inappropriate way.
Please take this pissing contest off-list if you would all be so kind.
On 09/10/14 12:02 AM, Victoria Svitovenko wrote:
Who are you and who is John you braive behind computer tell me your name and
everything will be taking care of what scared
Mods?
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On 2014-10-08, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
>>> John R Pierce wrote:
>On 10/8/2014 10:45 AM,m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
> >>Maybe that would get past his self-centered self-importance.
>
>look in the mirror.
>>
>> I was commenting re your constant complaining that you don't like
>> chan
On Oct 8, 2014, at 6:58 PM, Jonathan Billings wrote:
> 3.) better support multi-seat environments
Errr... I meant that moving it to userspace makes it easier to support
multi-seat environments.
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On Oct 8, 2014, at 1:08 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
> And the point of it is?
Moving the VT management into userspace. Having it in-kernel makes it
1.) difficult to program for (and hasn't been updated much since the 90s)
2.) insecure and
3.) better support multi-seat environments
amongst ot
On Wed, October 8, 2014 1:25 pm, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
> John R Pierce wrote:
>> On 10/8/2014 11:14 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
>>> John R Pierce wrote:
>On 10/8/2014 10:45 AM,m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
> >>I want to*WHACK* Poettering between the eyes, and get his
> attention.
>
On Wed, October 8, 2014 12:55 pm, John R Pierce wrote:
> On 10/8/2014 10:35 AM, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
>> OK, I for one am boycotting his creature, to the extent I can, the way I
>> can: I move my servers away from Linux (to FreeBSD, if someone
>> interested). None of my server will run on the box
John R Pierce wrote:
> On 10/8/2014 12:10 PM, Marcelo Ricardo Leitner wrote:
>> Anyway, hands down if you still use one of the very first mobile
>> phones and not a smartphone
>
> I use a modern clamshell/flipphone. fits in my pocket much better than
> a smartphone and is better for making phone
On 10/8/2014 12:10 PM, Marcelo Ricardo Leitner wrote:
Anyway, hands down if you still use one of the very first mobile
phones and not a smartphone
I use a modern clamshell/flipphone. fits in my pocket much better than
a smartphone and is better for making phone calls.
--
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On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 2:05 PM, John R Pierce wrote:
>>>
>> Only if the design was bad in the first place. And if the design was
>> really bad, there wouldn't be any users to infuriate by breaking the
>> interfaces they use. But the unix design that linux and linux
>> distributions copied was pr
On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 2:24 PM, Steve Clark wrote:
>
> Yes, wasn't it amazing how much could get done with so little resources. We
> ran our whole
> college administration on an IBM-1130 with 8K of core and a 2.5mega byte
> removable drive.
And now the font rendering takes more computing power th
On 10/08/2014 03:00 PM, John R Pierce wrote:
On 10/8/2014 11:29 AM, Les Mikesell wrote:
On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 1:22 PM, Digimer wrote:
Airbags, ABS, Traction Control, ACE compatibility, stronger survival space,
better fuel economy, more comfortable...
I think I've forgotten what user interfac
On 10/08/2014 02:22 PM, Digimer wrote:
On 08/10/14 02:18 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
Marcelo Ricardo Leitner wrote:
On 08-10-2014 14:36, Les Mikesell wrote:
On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 12:22 PM, Robert Arkiletian
wrote:
Just a heads up to those who haven't seen this yet. The main author of
system
On 08-10-2014 15:25, Les Mikesell wrote:
On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 1:11 PM, Marcelo Ricardo Leitner
wrote:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/+LennartPoetteringTheOneAndOnly/posts/J2TZrTvu7vd
But oddly, he didn't even mention that there would be a real simple
solution - just add backwards-compatible
On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 2:00 PM, John R Pierce wrote:
> >
> anyways, cars are not a good analogy to computers over the same time scale,
> unless you want to go back to the days of the model T, where the 3 pedals
> operated clutch bands on a planetary transmission, and the throttle and
> ignition ti
On 10/8/2014 11:25 AM, Les Mikesell wrote:
Only if the design was bad in the first place. And if the design was
really bad, there wouldn't be any users to infuriate by breaking the
interfaces they use. But the unix design that linux and linux
distributions copied was pretty good, including the
On 10/8/2014 11:29 AM, Les Mikesell wrote:
On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 1:22 PM, Digimer wrote:
> >
>Airbags, ABS, Traction Control, ACE compatibility, stronger survival space,
>better fuel economy, more comfortable...
I think I've forgotten what user interfaces these break. Did they
take away the
On 08-10-2014 15:18, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
Marcelo Ricardo Leitner wrote:
On 08-10-2014 14:36, Les Mikesell wrote:
On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 12:22 PM, Robert Arkiletian
wrote:
Just a heads up to those who haven't seen this yet. The main author of
systemd publicly wrote about being basically p
On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 1:33 PM, Digimer wrote:
> >> On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 1:22 PM, Digimer wrote:
>>> Airbags, ABS, Traction Control, ACE compatibility, stronger survival
>>> space,
>>> better fuel economy, more comfortable...
>>
>>
>> I think I've forgotten what user interfaces these
On 08/10/14 02:29 PM, Les Mikesell wrote:
On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 1:22 PM, Digimer wrote:
Airbags, ABS, Traction Control, ACE compatibility, stronger survival space,
better fuel economy, more comfortable...
I think I've forgotten what user interfaces these break. Did they
take away the stee
On 08/10/14 02:25 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
John R Pierce wrote:
On 10/8/2014 11:14 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
John R Pierce wrote:
On 10/8/2014 10:45 AM,m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
I want to*WHACK* Poettering between the eyes, and get his
attention.
Maybe that would get past his self-cent
On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 1:22 PM, Digimer wrote:
> >
> Airbags, ABS, Traction Control, ACE compatibility, stronger survival space,
> better fuel economy, more comfortable...
I think I've forgotten what user interfaces these break. Did they
take away the steering wheel to add them?
--
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John R Pierce wrote:
> On 10/8/2014 11:14 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
>> John R Pierce wrote:
>>> >On 10/8/2014 10:45 AM,m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
>>I want to*WHACK* Poettering between the eyes, and get his
attention.
>>Maybe that would get past his self-centered self-importance.
>>>
On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 1:11 PM, Marcelo Ricardo Leitner
wrote:
> >>>
>>> https://plus.google.com/u/0/+LennartPoetteringTheOneAndOnly/posts/J2TZrTvu7vd
>>
>>
>> But oddly, he didn't even mention that there would be a real simple
>> solution - just add backwards-compatible improvements instead of
>>
On 08/10/14 02:18 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
Marcelo Ricardo Leitner wrote:
On 08-10-2014 14:36, Les Mikesell wrote:
On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 12:22 PM, Robert Arkiletian
wrote:
Just a heads up to those who haven't seen this yet. The main author of
systemd publicly wrote about being basically
Marcelo Ricardo Leitner wrote:
> On 08-10-2014 14:36, Les Mikesell wrote:
>> On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 12:22 PM, Robert Arkiletian
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Just a heads up to those who haven't seen this yet. The main author of
>>> systemd publicly wrote about being basically persecuted.
>>>
>>> https://plus
On 10/8/2014 11:14 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
John R Pierce wrote:
>On 10/8/2014 10:45 AM,m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
>>I want to*WHACK* Poettering between the eyes, and get his attention.
>>Maybe that would get past his self-centered self-importance.
>
>look in the mirror.
Why? In what way am
John R Pierce wrote:
> On 10/8/2014 10:45 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
>> I want to*WHACK* Poettering between the eyes, and get his attention.
>> Maybe that would get past his self-centered self-importance.
>
> look in the mirror.
Why? In what way am I coming up with new complicated overlays for w
On 08-10-2014 14:36, Les Mikesell wrote:
On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 12:22 PM, Robert Arkiletian wrote:
Just a heads up to those who haven't seen this yet. The main author of
systemd publicly wrote about being basically persecuted.
https://plus.google.com/u/0/+LennartPoetteringTheOneAndOnly/posts/
On 10/8/2014 10:45 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
I want to*WHACK* Poettering between the eyes, and get his attention.
Maybe that would get past his self-centered self-importance.
look in the mirror.
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somewhere on the middle of the
On 10/8/2014 10:35 AM, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
OK, I for one am boycotting his creature, to the extent I can, the way I
can: I move my servers away from Linux (to FreeBSD, if someone
interested). None of my server will run on the box that has systemd.
Workstations stay Linux...
you've said this a
Digimer wrote:
> On 08/10/14 01:35 PM, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
>> On Wed, October 8, 2014 12:22 pm, Robert Arkiletian wrote:
>>> On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 10:08 AM, wrote:
Jonathan Billings wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 08, 2014 at 11:04:11AM -0400, Steve Clark wrote:
>> Anybody see this article on
On Wed, October 8, 2014 12:36 pm, Digimer wrote:
> On 08/10/14 01:35 PM, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, October 8, 2014 12:22 pm, Robert Arkiletian wrote:
>>> On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 10:08 AM, wrote:
>>>
Jonathan Billings wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 08, 2014 at 11:04:11AM -0400, Steve Clark
On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 12:22 PM, Robert Arkiletian wrote:
>
> Just a heads up to those who haven't seen this yet. The main author of
> systemd publicly wrote about being basically persecuted.
>
> https://plus.google.com/u/0/+LennartPoetteringTheOneAndOnly/posts/J2TZrTvu7vd
But oddly, he didn't ev
On 08/10/14 01:35 PM, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
On Wed, October 8, 2014 12:22 pm, Robert Arkiletian wrote:
On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 10:08 AM, wrote:
Jonathan Billings wrote:
On Wed, Oct 08, 2014 at 11:04:11AM -0400, Steve Clark wrote:
Anybody see this article on /.
I'd avoid slashdot entirely
On Wed, October 8, 2014 12:22 pm, Robert Arkiletian wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 10:08 AM, wrote:
>
>> Jonathan Billings wrote:
>> > On Wed, Oct 08, 2014 at 11:04:11AM -0400, Steve Clark wrote:
>> >> Anybody see this article on /.
>> >
>> > I'd avoid slashdot entirely and read the phoronix art
Robert Arkiletian wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 10:08 AM, wrote:
>> Jonathan Billings wrote:
>> > On Wed, Oct 08, 2014 at 11:04:11AM -0400, Steve Clark wrote:
>> >> Anybody see this article on /.
>> >
>> > I'd avoid slashdot entirely and read the phoronix article:
>> >
>> > http://www.phoronix.c
On 08/10/14 01:22 PM, Robert Arkiletian wrote:
On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 10:08 AM, wrote:
Jonathan Billings wrote:
On Wed, Oct 08, 2014 at 11:04:11AM -0400, Steve Clark wrote:
Anybody see this article on /.
I'd avoid slashdot entirely and read the phoronix article:
http://www.phoronix.com/sc
On Wed, October 8, 2014 12:15 pm, Digimer wrote:
> On 08/10/14 01:08 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
>> Jonathan Billings wrote:
>>> On Wed, Oct 08, 2014 at 11:04:11AM -0400, Steve Clark wrote:
Anybody see this article on /.
>>>
>>> I'd avoid slashdot entirely and read the phoronix article:
>>>
>
On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 10:08 AM, wrote:
> Jonathan Billings wrote:
> > On Wed, Oct 08, 2014 at 11:04:11AM -0400, Steve Clark wrote:
> >> Anybody see this article on /.
> >
> > I'd avoid slashdot entirely and read the phoronix article:
> >
> > http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTg
On 08/10/14 01:08 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
Jonathan Billings wrote:
On Wed, Oct 08, 2014 at 11:04:11AM -0400, Steve Clark wrote:
Anybody see this article on /.
I'd avoid slashdot entirely and read the phoronix article:
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTgwNzQ
Also, note
Jonathan Billings wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 08, 2014 at 11:04:11AM -0400, Steve Clark wrote:
>> Anybody see this article on /.
>
> I'd avoid slashdot entirely and read the phoronix article:
>
> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTgwNzQ
>
> Also, note that this is in the experimental rel
On Wed, Oct 08, 2014 at 11:04:11AM -0400, Steve Clark wrote:
> Anybody see this article on /.
I'd avoid slashdot entirely and read the phoronix article:
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTgwNzQ
Also, note that this is in the experimental release and most likely
won't be EL7's s
Anybody see this article on /.
--
Stephen Clark
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