On Wednesday, May 30, 2012 02:56:24 PM Max Pyziur wrote:
My hope is to upgrade; that way I don't have to change/specify partition
topology, and hopefully only minimally adjust the existing
configurations.
I have tried this type of upgrade before; I have not had it go well for
the most part.
On Jun 3, 2012, at 12:55 PM, Max Pyziur p...@brama.com wrote:
On Wednesday, May 30, 2012 02:56:24 PM Max Pyziur wrote:
My hope is to upgrade; that way I don't have to change/specify partition
topology, and hopefully only minimally adjust the existing
configurations.
I have tried this type
On Sun, Jun 3, 2012 at 11:55 AM, Max Pyziur p...@brama.com wrote:
I recognize that most of the comments were from sysadmins, more involved
in managing server farms, and steeped in that knowledge/experience base.
And in upgrades, and thus have experience with the difference in
effort and
On Sun, 3 Jun 2012, Les Mikesell wrote:
On Sun, Jun 3, 2012 at 11:55 AM, Max Pyziur p...@brama.com wrote:
I recognize that most of the comments were from sysadmins, more involved
in managing server farms, and steeped in that knowledge/experience base.
And in upgrades, and thus have
On Sun, 3 Jun 2012, Ross Walker wrote:
On Jun 3, 2012, at 12:55 PM, Max Pyziur p...@brama.com wrote:
[... deleted for the sake of brevity ...]
Much thanks to thoughtful comments and cautions,
You might want to crawl /etc, /bin, /sbin, /usr and /var for files not under
management and
On Sun, Jun 3, 2012 at 1:53 PM, Max Pyziur p...@brama.com wrote:
My personal goal was to preserve the topology of the disk layout, as well
as the configurations.
Which are trivial to reproduce. And potentially improve in the process.
And you still have yet to explain what you think the
On Sun, 3 Jun 2012, Les Mikesell wrote:
On Sun, Jun 3, 2012 at 1:53 PM, Max Pyziur p...@brama.com wrote:
My personal goal was to preserve the topology of the disk layout, as well
as the configurations.
Which are trivial to reproduce. And potentially improve in the process.
It may be
On Wednesday, May 30, 2012 02:56:24 PM Max Pyziur wrote:
My hope is to upgrade; that way I don't have to change/specify partition
topology, and hopefully only minimally adjust the existing configurations.
I have tried this type of upgrade before; I have not had it go well for the
most part.
On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 2:54 PM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote:
i will not buy the argument with the hardware because
i had in the last years 4 notebooks, 3 workstations
and two different notebooks of my co-developer which
all done many dist-upgrades well if you know how
to
On 05/25/2012 07:52 PM, Les Mikesell wrote:
On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 7:42 PM, Max Pyziur p...@brama.com wrote:
I *do* still have an FC2 box.
Would anyone second this procedure:
http://www.centos.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=14052forum=37post_id=47945
It might possibly work, but
On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 10:04 AM, Max Pyziur p...@brama.com wrote:
The point is to leave configurations, partitions, and other components as
close as possible to being intact.
Why isn't the point to match the existing CentOS box in production
closely instead?
Since this is a server
Les Mikesell wrote:
On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 10:04 AM, Max Pyziur p...@brama.com wrote:
snip
Since this is a server environment, there are about 700-800 packages,
not the 3000
that sit on desktop machine.
If it is a server environment, you should be paying attention to the
supported life of
Les Mikesell wrote:
On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 10:04 AM, Max Pyziur p...@brama.com wrote:
snip
Since this is a server environment, there are about 700-800 packages,
not the 3000
that sit on desktop machine.
If it is a server environment, you should be paying attention to the
supported life
On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 11:07 AM, Max Pyziur p...@brama.com wrote:
Last, CentOS is built from Fedora Core 6. Usually, it makes sense to
proceed sequentially.
So you're going to upgrate to FC3, 4 and 5 before going to CentOS?
Possibly. Unless someone else can attest to their own experience
Max Pyziur wrote:
Les Mikesell wrote:
On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 10:04 AM, Max Pyziur p...@brama.com wrote:
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To clarify, the machine is a test/development box that also acts as a
router to a DSL connection that (for the most part) replicates a
co-located production machine that is currently
On 05/30/12 9:07 AM, Max Pyziur wrote:
Possibly. Unless someone else can attest to their own experience and
knowledge that it's generally ok to move from FC2 to CentOS 5.*. That was
my point in starting this thread.
sure. take new system, clean install 5.latest on it, configure your
Max Pyziur wrote:
Les Mikesell wrote:
On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 10:04 AM, Max Pyziur p...@brama.com wrote:
snip
To clarify, the machine is a test/development box that also acts as a
router to a DSL connection that (for the most part) replicates a
co-located production machine that is
On 05/30/12 10:26 AM, Max Pyziur wrote:
I'm not interested in acquiring more hardware but rather hope to use what
I have. It works satisfactorily in its current configuration; my interest
is in aligning the OS of the test/backup unit with that of the production
machine.
then back it up, wipe
Max Pyziur wrote:
Max Pyziur wrote:
Les Mikesell wrote:
On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 10:04 AM, Max Pyziur p...@brama.com wrote:
snip
To clarify, the machine is a test/development box that also acts as a
router to a DSL connection that (for the most part) replicates a
co-located production
Max Pyziur wrote:
Max Pyziur wrote:
Les Mikesell wrote:
On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 10:04 AM, Max Pyziur p...@brama.com wrote:
snip
To clarify, the machine is a test/development box that also acts as a
router to a DSL connection that (for the most part) replicates a
co-located production
On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 1:21 PM, Max Pyziur p...@brama.com wrote:
Here is what I wrote:
http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/2012-May/126307.html
... It's a test machine that replicates a production server. ...
How would you improve it in order to remedy the apparent confusion?
But in
On 5/30/2012 2:21 PM, Max Pyziur wrote:
I appreciate your and others' efforts at advice. I'm simply trying to use
existing hardware (that's the eco-friendly approach), and trying to build
my understanding of the Fedora/CentOS operational relationships. Given
that it has been stated that CentOS
On 05/30/12 11:21 AM, Max Pyziur wrote:
I'm not yet looking
for a recommendation for a clean install.
there is no other sane approach. you can upgrade the system a half
dozen times through those intermediate versions, and sort out every
issue that comes along, or you can build a clean new
On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 1:21 PM, Max Pyziur p...@brama.com wrote:
Here is what I wrote:
http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/2012-May/126307.html
... It's a test machine that replicates a production server. ...
How would you improve it in order to remedy the apparent confusion?
But
On 05/30/2012 12:37 PM, John R Pierce wrote:
On 05/30/12 10:26 AM, Max Pyziur wrote:
I'm not interested in acquiring more hardware but rather hope to use what
I have. It works satisfactorily in its current configuration; my interest
is in aligning the OS of the test/backup unit with that of
On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 1:51 PM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote:
Am 30.05.2012 20:36, schrieb Les Mikesell:
Fedora doesn't support/recommend in-place upgrades across major
versions or at least didn't for those versions. My experience was
that even within a major rev. an update
Max Pyziur wrote:
Max Pyziur wrote:
Max Pyziur wrote:
Les Mikesell wrote:
On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 10:04 AM, Max Pyziur p...@brama.com wrote:
snip
I appreciate your and others' efforts at advice. I'm simply trying to use
existing hardware (that's the eco-friendly approach), and trying to
On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 1:56 PM, Max Pyziur p...@brama.com wrote:
Thank you; this is very helpful.
My hope is to upgrade; that way I don't have to change/specify partition
topology,
But that takes a couple of minutes - or you could use the saved
kickstart info if FC2 saved it back then. Or
On 05/25/2012 07:52 PM, Les Mikesell wrote:
On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 7:42 PM, Max Pyziur p...@brama.com wrote:
I *do* still have an FC2 box.
Would anyone second this procedure:
http://www.centos.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=14052forum=37post_id=47945
It might possibly work, but I
Greetings,
I *do* still have an FC2 box.
Would anyone second this procedure:
http://www.centos.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=14052forum=37post_id=47945
Thanks.
Max Pyziur
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On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 5:03 PM, Max Pyziur p...@brama.com wrote:
I *do* still have an FC2 box.
Would anyone second this procedure:
http://www.centos.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=14052forum=37post_id=47945
It might possibly work, but I can't quite imagine why anyone would
want
On Fri, 25 May 2012, Les Mikesell wrote:
On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 5:03 PM, Max Pyziur p...@brama.com wrote:
I *do* still have an FC2 box.
Would anyone second this procedure:
http://www.centos.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=14052forum=37post_id=47945
It might possibly work, but I
On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 7:42 PM, Max Pyziur p...@brama.com wrote:
I *do* still have an FC2 box.
Would anyone second this procedure:
http://www.centos.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=14052forum=37post_id=47945
It might possibly work, but I can't quite imagine why anyone would
want
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