Re: [CentOS] Virtualization - what do You recommend?

2010-02-04 Thread Benjamin Donnachie
2010/2/2 Rafał Radecki : > I plan to use virtualization in my production environment. I plan to use one > of the following options: I am very happy with XenServer in our data centre. Use qemu for testing / devel purposes. Ben ___ CentOS mailing list Ce

Re: [CentOS] Virtualization - what do You recommend?

2010-02-03 Thread Christopher Chan
On Thursday, February 04, 2010 10:20 AM, David McGuffey wrote: > > On Tue, 2010-02-02 at 11:51 -0500, Max Hetrick wrote: >> Bobby wrote: >> >>> Odd, for some time I have had USB support with Sun's Virtualbox. It was a >>> problem at some point but works fine here (Using Fedora 11). I'm pretty >>>

Re: [CentOS] Virtualization - what do You recommend?

2010-02-03 Thread David McGuffey
On Tue, 2010-02-02 at 11:51 -0500, Max Hetrick wrote: > Bobby wrote: > > > Odd, for some time I have had USB support with Sun's Virtualbox. It was a > > problem at some point but works fine here (Using Fedora 11). I'm pretty > > sure I > > watched a USB CAM on XP (as a VM client) a while ago.

Re: [CentOS] Virtualization - what do You recommend?

2010-02-03 Thread Christopher Chan
On Thursday, February 04, 2010 01:52 AM, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote: > On Wed, Feb 03, 2010 at 10:14:50AM +0800, Christopher Chan wrote: >> On Wednesday, February 03, 2010 12:43 AM, John R Pierce wrote: >>> Rafa? Radecki wrote: Hi All. I plan to use virtualization in my production environ

Re: [CentOS] Virtualization - what do You recommend?

2010-02-03 Thread Kwan Lowe
On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 4:27 PM, Max Hetrick wrote: > a arias wrote: >> Over the last year I have worked with Xen, KVM, VMware ESX and Sun >> VirtualBox. VirtualBox is my recommendation, hands down. > > I think this is too vague of a opinion on virtualization use. I think it > depends on what you'r

Re: [CentOS] Virtualization - what do You recommend?

2010-02-03 Thread Rob Kampen
Max Hetrick wrote: a arias wrote: Over the last year I have worked with Xen, KVM, VMware ESX and Sun VirtualBox. VirtualBox is my recommendation, hands down. I think this is too vague of a opinion on virtualization use. I think it depends on what you're doing with it. VirtualBox is

Re: [CentOS] Virtualization - what do You recommend?

2010-02-03 Thread Max Hetrick
a arias wrote: > Over the last year I have worked with Xen, KVM, VMware ESX and Sun > VirtualBox. VirtualBox is my recommendation, hands down. I think this is too vague of a opinion on virtualization use. I think it depends on what you're doing with it. VirtualBox is a nice piece of software fo

Re: [CentOS] Virtualization - what do You recommend?

2010-02-03 Thread Les Mikesell
On 2/3/2010 1:19 PM, a arias wrote: > Over the last year I have worked with Xen, KVM, VMware ESX and Sun > VirtualBox. VirtualBox is my recommendation, hands down. > Virtualbox has the unique advantage of having a free version that can run on intel Macs. I can't think of anything else that makes

Re: [CentOS] Virtualization - what do You recommend?

2010-02-03 Thread a arias
Over the last year I have worked with Xen, KVM, VMware ESX and Sun VirtualBox. VirtualBox is my recommendation, hands down. On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 12:52 PM, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote: > On Wed, Feb 03, 2010 at 10:14:50AM +0800, Christopher Chan wrote: > > On Wednesday, February 03, 2010 12:43 AM, Jo

Re: [CentOS] Virtualization - what do You recommend?

2010-02-03 Thread Pasi Kärkkäinen
On Wed, Feb 03, 2010 at 10:14:50AM +0800, Christopher Chan wrote: > On Wednesday, February 03, 2010 12:43 AM, John R Pierce wrote: > > Rafa? Radecki wrote: > >> Hi All. > >> > >> I plan to use virtualization in my production environment. I plan to > >> use one of the following options: > >> - KVM;

Re: [CentOS] Virtualization - what do You recommend?

2010-02-03 Thread Arun Khan
On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 5:35 PM, Robert P. J. Day wrote: > > just to clarify, you're saying that KVM requires H/W virtualization > support, either VT-x or AMD-V, yes? because at this point, i don't > think that really qualifies as "special hardware" anymore, it's pretty > common. > > Yes common

Re: [CentOS] Virtualization - what do You recommend?

2010-02-03 Thread Rainer Traut
Am 03.02.2010 00:07, schrieb Kwan Lowe: > KVM ... > back-end storage for the VMs so you can do snapshot backups. I'm > awaiting support for memory de-duplication on the host side as this > can really help cram more VMs into a box (my workloads are very light > on memory/cpu but libraries/packages c

Re: [CentOS] Virtualization - what do You recommend?

2010-02-02 Thread Geoff Galitz
> Xen > From the CentOS side it's very similar to KVM if you use the virt > tools. Performance is extremely good with paravirtualized machines. > It's a workhorse and quite stable, but the GUI is not so great. > Networking is a bear to configure. Requires separate kernel. I've > never quite go

Re: [CentOS] Virtualization - what do You recommend?

2010-02-02 Thread Christopher Chan
On Wednesday, February 03, 2010 12:43 AM, John R Pierce wrote: > Rafa? Radecki wrote: >> Hi All. >> >> I plan to use virtualization in my production environment. I plan to >> use one of the following options: >> - KVM; >> - VMWare Esxi; >> - VMWare Workstation. >> >> I plan to install Windows 2008

Re: [CentOS] Virtualization - what do You recommend?

2010-02-02 Thread William Warren
On 2/2/2010 6:20 AM, Rafa? Radecki wrote: Hi All. I plan to use virtualization in my production environment. I plan to use one of the following options: - KVM; - VMWare Esxi; - VMWare Workstation. I plan to install Windows 2008 as a guest. I want to use something like LVM snapshots for backu

Re: [CentOS] Virtualization - what do You recommend?

2010-02-02 Thread Kwan Lowe
2010/2/2 Rafał Radecki : > Hi All. > > I plan to use virtualization in my production environment. I plan to use one > of the following options: > - KVM; > - VMWare Esxi; > - VMWare Workstation. > > I plan to install Windows 2008 as a guest. I want to use something like LVM > snapshots for backups.

Re: [CentOS] Virtualization - what do You recommend?

2010-02-02 Thread Tom Bishop
So I have tried and used most, I am anxious to see redhats next version of KVM stuff that will make it into rhel 6, whenever that is, once the management tools on LINUX catch up I will be moving towards that. I am currently using vmware server 2 on centos 5.4 and while there were some issues there

Re: [CentOS] Virtualization - what do You recommend?

2010-02-02 Thread Les Mikesell
On 2/2/2010 11:09 AM, Greg Bailey wrote: > Les Mikesell wrote: >> I have to agree that ESXi is better, but I've had VMware server running >> for years (mostly 1.x versions on CentOS 3.x, but also some CentOS 5.x >> and VMware 2.x) with no surprises other than jumpy clocks. The servers >> have some

Re: [CentOS] Virtualization - what do You recommend?

2010-02-02 Thread Greg Bailey
Les Mikesell wrote: > I have to agree that ESXi is better, but I've had VMware server running > for years (mostly 1.x versions on CentOS 3.x, but also some CentOS 5.x > and VMware 2.x) with no surprises other than jumpy clocks. The servers > have sometimes been shut down for power work but I've

Re: [CentOS] Virtualization - what do You recommend?

2010-02-02 Thread Max Hetrick
Bobby wrote: > Interesting. Would you mind sharing what files that is as I've never > encountered it but would like to know more if/when I do? What version (of VB) > are you using? I'm running the latest version: 3.1.2 build 56127. I had to perform these steps to get USB to work on a Linux or

Re: [CentOS] Virtualization - what do You recommend?

2010-02-02 Thread Les Mikesell
On 2/2/2010 10:43 AM, John R Pierce wrote: > >> I plan to use virtualization in my production environment. I plan to >> use one of the following options: >> - KVM; >> - VMWare Esxi; >> - VMWare Workstation. >> >> I plan to install Windows 2008 as a guest. I want to use something >> like LVM snapsho

Re: [CentOS] Virtualization - what do You recommend?

2010-02-02 Thread Bobby
On Tuesday 02 February 2010 11:51:43 Max Hetrick wrote: > Bobby wrote: > > Odd, for some time I have had USB support with Sun's Virtualbox. It was a > > problem at some point but works fine here (Using Fedora 11). I'm pretty > > sure I watched a USB CAM on XP (as a VM client) a while ago. > > Well

Re: [CentOS] Virtualization - what do You recommend?

2010-02-02 Thread Max Hetrick
Bobby wrote: > Odd, for some time I have had USB support with Sun's Virtualbox. It was a > problem at some point but works fine here (Using Fedora 11). I'm pretty sure > I > watched a USB CAM on XP (as a VM client) a while ago. Well, it's supported and works, however, you have to remount usbfs

Re: [CentOS] Virtualization - what do You recommend?

2010-02-02 Thread Bobby
On Tuesday 02 February 2010 11:08:21 Max Hetrick wrote: > There is a work around for USB support on Linux for VirtualBox, where > VMware works a bit better with USB. Odd, for some time I have had USB support with Sun's Virtualbox. It was a problem at some point but works fine here (Using Fedora

Re: [CentOS] Virtualization - what do You recommend?

2010-02-02 Thread John R Pierce
Rafa? Radecki wrote: > Hi All. > > I plan to use virtualization in my production environment. I plan to > use one of the following options: > - KVM; > - VMWare Esxi; > - VMWare Workstation. > > I plan to install Windows 2008 as a guest. I want to use something > like LVM snapshots for backups. St

Re: [CentOS] Virtualization - what do You recommend?

2010-02-02 Thread Max Hetrick
Jake Shipton wrote: > Hi, Personally, I'd recommend VMware Workstation. Always been good for > me, however lately I have been trying out Virtualbox (PUEL) :-). They > have an Open Source Edition also (Virtualbox), only it lacks USB > Support. If you go on there website, you can see the 3 missing f

Re: [CentOS] Virtualization - what do You recommend?

2010-02-02 Thread Jake Shipton
On 02/02/10 11:20, Rafał Radecki wrote: > Hi All. > > I plan to use virtualization in my production environment. I plan to use one > of the following options: > - KVM; > - VMWare Esxi; > - VMWare Workstation. > > I plan to install Windows 2008 as a guest. I want to use something like LVM > snapsh

Re: [CentOS] Virtualization - what do You recommend?

2010-02-02 Thread Les Mikesell
Rafa? Radecki wrote: > Hi All. > > I plan to use virtualization in my production environment. I plan to use > one of the following options: > - KVM; > - VMWare Esxi; > - VMWare Workstation. > > I plan to install Windows 2008 as a guest. I want to use something like > LVM snapshots for backups.

Re: [CentOS] Virtualization - what do You recommend?

2010-02-02 Thread Victor Padro
On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 6:05 AM, Robert P. J. Day wrote: > On Tue, 2 Feb 2010, Victor Padro wrote: > >> You can only install KVM or VMWare Workstation/Server in CentOS, I >> think you should try KVM, because it's opensource and it supports >> Windows but you need special hardware like the latest CP

Re: [CentOS] Virtualization - what do You recommend?

2010-02-02 Thread Ray Van Dolson
On Tue, Feb 02, 2010 at 07:05:59AM -0500, Robert P. J. Day wrote: > On Tue, 2 Feb 2010, Victor Padro wrote: > > > You can only install KVM or VMWare Workstation/Server in CentOS, I > > think you should try KVM, because it's opensource and it supports > > Windows but you need special hardware like

Re: [CentOS] Virtualization - what do You recommend?

2010-02-02 Thread Lorenzo Quatrini
Rafał Radecki ha scritto: > Hi All. > > I plan to use virtualization in my production environment. I plan to use > one of the following options: > - KVM; > - VMWare Esxi; > - VMWare Workstation. > > I plan to install Windows 2008 as a guest. I want to use something like > LVM snapshots for backup

Re: [CentOS] Virtualization - what do You recommend?

2010-02-02 Thread Robert P. J. Day
On Tue, 2 Feb 2010, Victor Padro wrote: > You can only install KVM or VMWare Workstation/Server in CentOS, I > think you should try KVM, because it's opensource and it supports > Windows but you need special hardware like the latest CPUs from AMD > or Intel... just to clarify, you're saying tha

Re: [CentOS] Virtualization - what do You recommend?

2010-02-02 Thread Victor Padro
2010/2/2 Rafał Radecki : > Hi All. > > I plan to use virtualization in my production environment. I plan to use one > of the following options: > - KVM; > - VMWare Esxi; > - VMWare Workstation. > > I plan to install Windows 2008 as a guest. I want to use something like LVM > snapshots for backups.

[CentOS] Virtualization - what do You recommend?

2010-02-02 Thread Rafał Radecki
Hi All. I plan to use virtualization in my production environment. I plan to use one of the following options: - KVM; - VMWare Esxi; - VMWare Workstation. I plan to install Windows 2008 as a guest. I want to use something like LVM snapshots for backups. Stability is also very important, the guest