Re: [CentOS] help fdisk and dd

On 3/15/10, Scott Silva wrote: > on 3-5-2010 3:03 PM JohnS spake the following: >> On Fri, 2010-03-05 at 22:33 +, David G.Miller wrote: >>> writes: >>> > m.r...@... wrote: > > [...] > >> Alternatively, the answer on another techie mailing list I'm on is >> that >>

Re: [CentOS] help fdisk and dd

MHR wrote: On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 3:33 PM, Scott Silva wrote: on 3-5-2010 3:03 PM JohnS spake the following: On Fri, 2010-03-05 at 22:33 +, David G.Miller wrote: writes: m.r...@... wrote: [...] Alternatively, the answer on another techie mailing

Re: [CentOS] help fdisk and dd

On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 3:33 PM, Scott Silva wrote: > on 3-5-2010 3:03 PM JohnS spake the following: >> On Fri, 2010-03-05 at 22:33 +, David G.Miller wrote: >>> writes: >>> > m.r...@... wrote: > > [...] > >> Alternatively, the answer on another techie mailing list I'm on i

Re: [CentOS] help fdisk and dd

on 3-5-2010 3:03 PM JohnS spake the following: > On Fri, 2010-03-05 at 22:33 +, David G.Miller wrote: >> writes: >> m.r...@... wrote: [...] > Alternatively, the answer on another techie mailing list I'm on is that > you could disassemble the disks and use thermite.

Re: [CentOS] help fdisk and dd

- Original Message > From: Paul Heinlein > To: CentOS mailing list > Sent: Fri, March 5, 2010 8:16:19 PM > Subject: Re: [CentOS] help fdisk and dd > > > Or, donate the drives and a cheap torx driver to the educational > charity of your choice. Kids *love

Re: [CentOS] help fdisk and dd

Paul Heinlein wrote: > Or, donate the drives and a cheap torx driver to the educational > charity of your choice. Kids *love* taking them apart, and the magnets > are quite useful! > hah, I have some magnets from some old 5.25" ESDI server drives on my fridge at home. one of them easily hol

Re: [CentOS] help fdisk and dd

On Fri, 5 Mar 2010, David G. Miller wrote: > Over the years I've ended up with a pile of old hard drives. Some > are unreliable; some won't even spin up and some are just REALLY old > (e.g., 100s of MB size). I also inherited a couple of rifles (M-1 > Garand and M-1 Carbine). I'm thinking wri

Re: [CentOS] help fdisk and dd

On Fri, 2010-03-05 at 22:33 +, David G.Miller wrote: > writes: > > > > > > m.r...@... wrote: > > > > > > [...] > > > > > >> Alternatively, the answer on another techie mailing list I'm on is that > > >> you could disassemble the disks and use thermite. > > > > > > Just a hammer, no need to

Re: [CentOS] help fdisk and dd

writes: > > > m.r...@... wrote: > > > > [...] > > > >> Alternatively, the answer on another techie mailing list I'm on is that > >> you could disassemble the disks and use thermite. > > > > Just a hammer, no need to disassemble the case. > > > I dunno, a buddy who was in army intel back in the

Re: [CentOS] help fdisk and dd

From: Mike McCarty > What is the difference between the above two commands? > Did I miss something? See my second post where I replaced zero by random... > I don't know what "n times more secure" means. Could you > please explain? Does that mean that, with n times as much > work, one can still r

Re: [CentOS] help fdisk and dd

> m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: >> That may be the case, but the laws and regulations still want that level >> of security, due to the regular "one of our people lost a laptop/it was >> stolen, and 7 zillion PII* got stolen!!!" >> >> mark "yes, I am working for the gov't" But not the DoD, let me

Re: [CentOS] help fdisk and dd

> m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: >>> I wrote >>> >>> [...] >>> Alternatively, the answer on another techie mailing list I'm on is that you could disassemble the disks and use thermite. >>> Just a hammer, no need to disassemble the case. >>> >> I dunno, a buddy who was in army intel back in

Re: [CentOS] help fdisk and dd

m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: > I dunno, a buddy who was in army intel back in the early eighties told me, > about 10 years ago, that they could flatten out the platters and read some > data. Thermite not only melts the platters, but will hit the Curie point. > in the 80s, disks held 10-20MB per 5.25

Re: [CentOS] help fdisk and dd

m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: > That may be the case, but the laws and regulations still want that level > of security, due to the regular "one of our people lost a laptop/it was > stolen, and 7 zillion PII* got stolen!!!" > > mark "yes, I am working for the gov't" > the oft-quoted 1995 vint

Re: [CentOS] help fdisk and dd

m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: >> I wrote >> >> [...] >> >>> Alternatively, the answer on another techie mailing list I'm on is that >>> you could disassemble the disks and use thermite. >> Just a hammer, no need to disassemble the case. >> > I dunno, a buddy who was in army intel back in the early eighti

Re: [CentOS] help fdisk and dd

> m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: > > [...] > >> Alternatively, the answer on another techie mailing list I'm on is that >> you could disassemble the disks and use thermite. > > Just a hammer, no need to disassemble the case. > I dunno, a buddy who was in army intel back in the early eighties told me, abou

Re: [CentOS] help fdisk and dd

John Doe wrote: > > Oops, for the slow procedures, it is /dev/random instead of /dev/zero... Ah, ok, disregard the other message. Mike -- p="p=%c%s%c;main(){printf(p,34,p,34);}";main(){printf(p,34,p,34);} Oppose globalization and One World Governments like the UN. This message made from 100% re

Re: [CentOS] help fdisk and dd

m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: [...] > Alternatively, the answer on another techie mailing list I'm on is that > you could disassemble the disks and use thermite. Just a hammer, no need to disassemble the case. Mike -- p="p=%c%s%c;main(){printf(p,34,p,34);}";main(){printf(p,34,p,34);} Oppose globaliz

Re: [CentOS] help fdisk and dd

John Doe wrote: > From: chloe K >> What is the best practice to remove all data in the disk? >> ls fdisk ok or use dd > > Maybe something like (replace the ?): > - fast but not secure: >dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/?d? bs=4096 > - slow but more secure: >dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/?d? bs=4096

Re: [CentOS] help fdisk and dd

> Sorin Srbu wrote: >> I second that. Dban is the niftiest thing since sliced bread. Very handy >> tool, if a bit slow. But I guess that comes with the territory. 8-) >> > > DBAN runs at wire speed. Its just that disks with 100s or 1000s of > gigabytes take a long long time to fully write. > > DBA

Re: [CentOS] help fdisk and dd

Sorin Srbu wrote: > I second that. Dban is the niftiest thing since sliced bread. Very handy > tool, if a bit slow. But I guess that comes with the territory. 8-) > DBAN runs at wire speed. Its just that disks with 100s or 1000s of gigabytes take a long long time to fully write. DBAN's defau

Re: [CentOS] help fdisk and dd

From: John Doe > From: chloe K > > What is the best practice to remove all data in the disk? > > ls fdisk ok or use dd > Maybe something like (replace the ?): > - fast but not secure: >dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/?d? bs=4096 > - slow but more secure: >dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/?d? bs=4096 > -

Re: [CentOS] help fdisk and dd

> Hi all > > What is the best practice to remove all data in the disk? > > ls fdisk ok or use dd > > Can data be recovered? > > and what is the dd command? > > Thank you > Default with boot and nuke is three (or is it four?) passes, but you can tell it full US DoD seven pas

Re: [CentOS] help fdisk and dd

From: chloe K > What is the best practice to remove all data in the disk? > ls fdisk ok or use dd Maybe something like (replace the ?): - fast but not secure: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/?d? bs=4096 - slow but more secure: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/?d? bs=4096 - n times slower but n times mor

Re: [CentOS] help fdisk and dd

>-Original Message- >From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf >Of Benjamin Donnachie >Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 3:11 PM >To: CentOS mailing list >Subject: Re: [CentOS] help fdisk and dd > >On 4 March 2010 14:01, Sorin Srbu

Re: [CentOS] help fdisk and dd

On 4 March 2010 14:01, Sorin Srbu wrote: > I second that. Dban is the niftiest thing since sliced bread. Very handy > tool, if a bit slow. But I guess that comes with the territory. 8-) The ATA Secure Erase command is generally faster but more difficult - see http://ata.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/

Re: [CentOS] help fdisk and dd

>-Original Message- >From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf >Of Hakan Koseoglu >Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 2:54 PM >To: CentOS mailing list >Subject: Re: [CentOS] help fdisk and dd > >> What is the best practice to remov

Re: [CentOS] help fdisk and dd

On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 1:01 PM, chloe K wrote: > What is the best practice to remove all data in the disk? If you want to securely remove the data, I recommend using a tool like DBAN. If you want to just wipe out the partition & boot sector for a clean reinstallation, dd'ing the disk with zero for

Re: [CentOS] help fdisk and dd

Greetings, On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 6:31 PM, chloe K wrote: > Hi all > > What is the best practice to remove all data in the disk? > > ls fdisk ok or use dd > > Can data be recovered? > > and what is the dd command? > fdisk just repartiions the disk. dd is an axe. It can be used to copy anything

[CentOS] help fdisk and dd

Hi all What is the best practice to remove all data in the disk? ls fdisk ok or use dd Can data be recovered? and what is the dd command? Thank you __ Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! http://www.fl