Re: [CentOS] how to unmount an NFS share when the NFS server is unavailable?

2011-01-27 Thread Dr. Ed Morbius
on 07:54 Thu 27 Jan, John Hodrien (j.h.hodr...@leeds.ac.uk) wrote: > On Wed, 26 Jan 2011, Dr. Ed Morbius wrote: > > > I'd suggest the automount route as well (you're only open to NFS issues > > while the filesystem is mounted), but you then have to maintain > > automount maps and run the risk of i

Re: [CentOS] how to unmount an NFS share when the NFS server is unavailable?

2011-01-27 Thread Les Mikesell
On 1/27/2011 7:30 AM, Rudi Ahlers wrote: >> >>> BackupPC doesn't intergrate into cPanel. >> >> Why does it have to integrate? It runs on a different machine. Can't you >> make a >> remote apache authenticate the same way as a cpanel user would to access its >> web >> interface? >> > > Sorry, I sh

Re: [CentOS] how to unmount an NFS share when the NFS server is unavailable?

2011-01-27 Thread m . roth
Stephen Harris wrote: > On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 10:05:35AM -0500, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: >> It may be crap, but a) I haven't seen any ISPs that offer shell access >> for >> the better part of a decade, at least, and b) consider the enTHUsistic > > www.panix.com - Your $HOME away from home. > > Of

Re: [CentOS] how to unmount an NFS share when the NFS server is unavailable?

2011-01-27 Thread Stephen Harris
On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 10:05:35AM -0500, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: > It may be crap, but a) I haven't seen any ISPs that offer shell access for > the better part of a decade, at least, and b) consider the enTHUsistic www.panix.com - Your $HOME away from home. Of course many people who want shell a

Re: [CentOS] how to unmount an NFS share when the NFS server is unavailable?

2011-01-27 Thread Always Learning
On Thu, 2011-01-27 at 10:05 -0500, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: > > On Wed, 2011-01-26 at 23:05 -0800, John R Pierce wrote: > > > >> cpanel is pure crap. > It may be crap, but a) I haven't seen any ISPs that offer shell access for > the better part of a decade, at least, and b) consider the enTHUsist

Re: [CentOS] how to unmount an NFS share when the NFS server is unavailable?

2011-01-27 Thread m . roth
Always Learning wrote: > > On Wed, 2011-01-26 at 23:05 -0800, John R Pierce wrote: > >> cpanel is pure crap. > > It is a ghastly and frustrating nightmare. Command line, even for a > Linux beginner like me, is far superior. It is amazing that people pay > lots of money to use it. > It may be crap,

Re: [CentOS] how to unmount an NFS share when the NFS server is unavailable?

2011-01-27 Thread Always Learning
On Wed, 2011-01-26 at 23:05 -0800, John R Pierce wrote: > cpanel is pure crap. It is a ghastly and frustrating nightmare. Command line, even for a Linux beginner like me, is far superior. It is amazing that people pay lots of money to use it. -- With best regards, Paul. England, EU.

Re: [CentOS] how to unmount an NFS share when the NFS server is unavailable?

2011-01-27 Thread m . roth
Rudi Ahlers wrote: > On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 3:00 PM, Les Mikesell > wrote: >> On 1/27/11 12:57 AM, Rudi Ahlers wrote: >>> Actually, since the original question involved access to backups, I should have given my usual answer which is that backuppc is the thing > It currently backs up ev

Re: [CentOS] how to unmount an NFS share when the NFS server is unavailable?

2011-01-27 Thread Rudi Ahlers
On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 3:00 PM, Les Mikesell wrote: > On 1/27/11 12:57 AM, Rudi Ahlers wrote: >> >>> >>> Actually, since the original question involved access to backups, I >>> should have given my usual answer which is that backuppc is the thing to >>> use for backups and it provides a web inter

Re: [CentOS] how to unmount an NFS share when the NFS server is unavailable?

2011-01-27 Thread Les Mikesell
On 1/27/11 12:57 AM, Rudi Ahlers wrote: > >> >> Actually, since the original question involved access to backups, I >> should have given my usual answer which is that backuppc is the thing to >> use for backups and it provides a web interface for restores (you pick >> the historical version you wan

Re: [CentOS] how to unmount an NFS share when the NFS server is unavailable?

2011-01-26 Thread John Hodrien
On Wed, 26 Jan 2011, Dr. Ed Morbius wrote: > I'd suggest the automount route as well (you're only open to NFS issues > while the filesystem is mounted), but you then have to maintain > automount maps and run the risk of issues with the automounter (I've > seen large production environments in whic

Re: [CentOS] how to unmount an NFS share when the NFS server is unavailable?

2011-01-26 Thread Rudi Ahlers
On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 9:05 AM, John R Pierce wrote: > On 01/26/11 10:57 PM, Rudi Ahlers wrote: >> >> BackupPC doesn't intergrate into cPanel. > > > cpanel is pure crap. > > > And you are any better? -- Kind Regards Rudi Ahlers SoftDux Website: http://www.SoftDux.com Technical Blog: http://

Re: [CentOS] how to unmount an NFS share when the NFS server is unavailable?

2011-01-26 Thread John R Pierce
On 01/26/11 10:57 PM, Rudi Ahlers wrote: > > BackupPC doesn't intergrate into cPanel. cpanel is pure crap. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos

Re: [CentOS] how to unmount an NFS share when the NFS server is unavailable?

2011-01-26 Thread Rudi Ahlers
On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 1:26 AM, Les Mikesell wrote: > On 1/26/2011 4:55 PM, Dr. Ed Morbius wrote: >> >> The specific solution is 'umount -fl'. >> >> The general solution's a little stickier. >> >> I'd suggest the automount route as well (you're only open to NFS issues >> while the filesystem is m

Re: [CentOS] how to unmount an NFS share when the NFS server is unavailable?

2011-01-26 Thread Les Mikesell
On 1/26/2011 4:55 PM, Dr. Ed Morbius wrote: > > The specific solution is 'umount -fl'. > > The general solution's a little stickier. > > I'd suggest the automount route as well (you're only open to NFS issues > while the filesystem is mounted), but you then have to maintain > automount maps and run

Re: [CentOS] how to unmount an NFS share when the NFS server is unavailable?

2011-01-26 Thread Dr. Ed Morbius
on 10:23 Wed 26 Jan, Rudi Ahlers (r...@softdux.com) wrote: > Hi All, > > How do I unmount an NFS share when the NFS server is unaivalable? > > I tried "umount /bck" but it "hangs" indefinitely > "umount -f /bck" tells me the mount if busy and I can't unmount it: > > root@saturn:[~]$ umount -f /b

Re: [CentOS] how to unmount an NFS share when the NFS server is unavailable?

2011-01-26 Thread Rudi Ahlers
On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 4:10 PM, Paul Heinlein wrote: > On Wed, 26 Jan 2011, Les Mikesell wrote: > >>> That won't really work. The NFS clients run cPanel and we need a >>> way for end-users to have full access to their backups all the >>> time. We used to run backup over FTP, but then when a clien

Re: [CentOS] how to unmount an NFS share when the NFS server is unavailable?

2011-01-26 Thread Paul Heinlein
On Wed, 26 Jan 2011, Les Mikesell wrote: >> That won't really work. The NFS clients run cPanel and we need a >> way for end-users to have full access to their backups all the >> time. We used to run backup over FTP, but then when a client wanted >> to restore data one of the techs first had to

Re: [CentOS] how to unmount an NFS share when the NFS server is unavailable?

2011-01-26 Thread Les Mikesell
On 1/26/11 5:35 AM, Rudi Ahlers wrote: > On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 12:41 PM, Lorenzo Quatrini > wrote: >> Rudi Ahlers ha scritto: >>> On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 10:32 AM, Edo wrote: >>> >>> How does one mount an NFS share, to avoid system timeouts when the >>> remove NFS server is offline? >>> >> I w

Re: [CentOS] how to unmount an NFS share when the NFS server is unavailable?

2011-01-26 Thread John Hodrien
On Wed, 26 Jan 2011, Rudi Ahlers wrote: > That won't really work. The NFS clients run cPanel and we need a way > for end-users to have full access to their backups all the time. We > used to run backup over FTP, but then when a client wanted to restore > data one of the techs first had to download

Re: [CentOS] how to unmount an NFS share when the NFS server is unavailable?

2011-01-26 Thread Rudi Ahlers
On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 12:41 PM, Lorenzo Quatrini wrote: > Rudi Ahlers ha scritto: >> On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 10:32 AM, Edo wrote: >> >> How does one mount an NFS share, to avoid system timeouts when the >> remove NFS server is offline? >> > I would use a different approach: use autofs, then the

Re: [CentOS] how to unmount an NFS share when the NFS server is unavailable?

2011-01-26 Thread Edo
Hi, On Jan 26, 2011, at 5:50 PM, Rudi Ahlers wrote: > On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 10:32 AM, Edo wrote: >> Hi, >> >> On 1/26/11 5:23 PM, Rudi Ahlers wrote: >>> Hi All, >>> >>> How do I unmount an NFS share when the NFS server is unaivalable? >>> >>> I tried "umount /bck" but it "hangs" indefinite

Re: [CentOS] how to unmount an NFS share when the NFS server is unavailable?

2011-01-26 Thread Lorenzo Quatrini
Rudi Ahlers ha scritto: > On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 10:32 AM, Edo wrote: > > How does one mount an NFS share, to avoid system timeouts when the > remove NFS server is offline? > I would use a different approach: use autofs, then the share is mounted "on the fly" only when needed, and unmounted aft

Re: [CentOS] how to unmount an NFS share when the NFS server is unavailable?

2011-01-26 Thread Rudi Ahlers
On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 10:32 AM, Edo wrote: > Hi, > > On 1/26/11 5:23 PM, Rudi Ahlers wrote: >> Hi All, >> >> How do I unmount an NFS share when the NFS server is unaivalable? >> >> I tried "umount /bck" but it "hangs" indefinitely >> "umount -f /bck" tells me the mount if busy and I can't unmoun

Re: [CentOS] how to unmount an NFS share when the NFS server is unavailable?

2011-01-26 Thread Edo
Hi, On 1/26/11 5:23 PM, Rudi Ahlers wrote: > Hi All, > > How do I unmount an NFS share when the NFS server is unaivalable? > > I tried "umount /bck" but it "hangs" indefinitely > "umount -f /bck" tells me the mount if busy and I can't unmount it: Try: umount -f -l /bck HTH, -- - Edwin - m

[CentOS] how to unmount an NFS share when the NFS server is unavailable?

2011-01-26 Thread Rudi Ahlers
Hi All, How do I unmount an NFS share when the NFS server is unaivalable? I tried "umount /bck" but it "hangs" indefinitely "umount -f /bck" tells me the mount if busy and I can't unmount it: root@saturn:[~]$ umount -f /bck umount2: Device or resource busy umount: /bck: device is busy umount2: D