Re: [CentOS] newbie question on installation over existing Linux

2015-06-10 Thread Paul Heinlein
On Wed, 10 Jun 2015, Warren Young wrote: I don’t have a “real” Solaris installation here to try, but the OpenIndiana, DilOS and SmartOS forks of OpenSolaris all symlink /bin to /usr/bin. I expect the same is true of Solaris 11, though I wouldn’t be surprised to learn that Solaris 10 still kep

Re: [CentOS] newbie question on installation over existing Linux

2015-06-10 Thread Warren Young
On Jun 10, 2015, at 12:49 PM, Patrick Hess wrote: > > Warren Young wrote: >> /usr was already assumed to be on the root FS in Solaris, FreeBSD > > I'm using both Solaris and FreeBSD quite extensively and, honestly, > have never heard of that assumption. I don’t have a “real” Solaris installatio

Re: [CentOS] newbie question on installation over existing Linux

2015-06-10 Thread Patrick Hess
Warren Young wrote: > /usr was already assumed to be on the root FS in Solaris, FreeBSD I'm using both Solaris and FreeBSD quite extensively and, honestly, have never heard of that assumption. In fact, on the machine that I'm currently typing this message on, the file systems look like this:

Re: [CentOS] newbie question on installation over existing Linux

2015-06-09 Thread Warren Young
On Jun 8, 2015, at 8:16 PM, g wrote: > > On 06/08/2015 09:11 PM, John R Pierce wrote: >> On 6/8/2015 6:29 PM, Peter wrote: >>> You can thank Fedora for making that rather pointless change and >>> breaking that capability. >> >> that 'capability' was a holdover of the 1980s when disks were >> me

Re: [CentOS] newbie question on installation over existing Linux

2015-06-09 Thread Valeri Galtsev
On Tue, June 9, 2015 10:51 am, Kay Schenk wrote: > > > On 06/08/2015 06:29 PM, Peter wrote: >> On 06/09/2015 12:19 PM, John R Pierce wrote: >>> On 6/8/2015 5:08 PM, g wrote: ie, partition for boot, partition for swap, partition for /, partition home, partition for usr, partition for var,

Re: [CentOS] newbie question on installation over existing Linux

2015-06-09 Thread Kay Schenk
On 06/08/2015 06:29 PM, Peter wrote: > On 06/09/2015 12:19 PM, John R Pierce wrote: >> On 6/8/2015 5:08 PM, g wrote: >>> ie, partition for boot, partition for swap, partition for /, partition >>> home, partition for usr, partition for var, partition for home2, >>> partition for what ever. >> >> >

Re: [CentOS] newbie question on installation over existing Linux

2015-06-08 Thread Peter
On 06/09/2015 02:13 PM, John R Pierce wrote: > I tend to install my virtual host websites under > /home/someuser/public_html where there's a someuser for each vhost. the > default /var/www website is generally completely stubbed off and not > even used. That was actually one of the scenarios that

Re: [CentOS] newbie question on installation over existing Linux

2015-06-08 Thread g
On 06/08/2015 09:11 PM, John R Pierce wrote: > On 6/8/2015 6:29 PM, Peter wrote: >> You can thank Fedora for making that rather pointless change and >> breaking that capability. > > that 'capability' was a holdover of the 1980s when disks were > measured in megabytes, and memory in kilobytes, s

Re: [CentOS] newbie question on installation over existing Linux

2015-06-08 Thread John R Pierce
On 6/8/2015 6:35 PM, Peter wrote: On 06/09/2015 01:31 PM, g wrote: >>/home in a dedicated partition, sure. > >only way i have done it from many years back. > >>/var/lib/${DATABASE_OR_WEB_SERVER}, ditto... > >if/when i set up a server. Servers are better off without a separate partition for /

Re: [CentOS] newbie question on installation over existing Linux

2015-06-08 Thread John R Pierce
On 6/8/2015 6:29 PM, Peter wrote: You can thank Fedora for making that rather pointless change and breaking that capability. that 'capability' was a holdover of the 1980s when disks were measured in megabytes, and memory in kilobytes, so large file systems were impractical. -- john r pier

Re: [CentOS] newbie question on installation over existing Linux

2015-06-08 Thread g
On 06/08/2015 08:35 PM, Peter wrote: > On 06/09/2015 01:31 PM, g wrote: >>> /home in a dedicated partition, sure. >> >> only way i have done it from many years back. >> >>> /var/lib/${DATABASE_OR_WEB_SERVER}, ditto... >> >> if/when i set up a server. > > Servers are better off without a separate

Re: [CentOS] newbie question on installation over existing Linux

2015-06-08 Thread g
On 06/08/2015 08:29 PM, Peter wrote: <<>> > The real issue is that you cannot put /usr on a dedicated partition > anymore as of CentOS 7. This is because /bin, /lib and /lib64 are > symbolic linked in the /usr equivalents now. The (previous) purposes of > having a separate /bin and /lib was so

Re: [CentOS] newbie question on installation over existing Linux

2015-06-08 Thread Peter
On 06/09/2015 01:31 PM, g wrote: >> /home in a dedicated partition, sure. > > only way i have done it from many years back. > >> /var/lib/${DATABASE_OR_WEB_SERVER}, ditto... > > if/when i set up a server. Servers are better off without a separate partition for /home. Unlike desktop installs wh

Re: [CentOS] newbie question on installation over existing Linux

2015-06-08 Thread g
On 06/08/2015 07:19 PM, John R Pierce wrote: > On 6/8/2015 5:08 PM, g wrote: >> ie, partition for boot, partition for swap, partition for /, partition >> home, partition for usr, partition for var, partition for home2, >> partition for what ever. > > that model is not generally recommended anymo

Re: [CentOS] newbie question on installation over existing Linux

2015-06-08 Thread Peter
On 06/09/2015 12:19 PM, John R Pierce wrote: > On 6/8/2015 5:08 PM, g wrote: >> ie, partition for boot, partition for swap, partition for /, partition >> home, partition for usr, partition for var, partition for home2, >> partition for what ever. > > > that model is not generally recommended anym

Re: [CentOS] newbie question on installation over existing Linux

2015-06-08 Thread John R Pierce
On 6/8/2015 5:08 PM, g wrote: ie, partition for boot, partition for swap, partition for /, partition home, partition for usr, partition for var, partition for home2, partition for what ever. that model is not generally recommended anymore, at least not putting /usr on its own partition, there

Re: [CentOS] newbie question on installation over existing Linux

2015-06-08 Thread g
On 06/08/2015 06:12 PM, Kay Schenk wrote: > On 06/08/2015 02:00 PM, g wrote: <<<>>> >> just what do you want for a 1st choice? > > I think Peter addressed my concern and responded in a way that leads > me to believe a /home2 as you suggest is not necessary since it will > be bypassed in terms o

Re: [CentOS] newbie question on installation over existing Linux

2015-06-08 Thread Kay Schenk
On 06/08/2015 02:00 PM, g wrote: > > > On 06/08/2015 11:34 AM, Kay Schenk wrote: >> On 06/07/2015 11:05 PM, g wrote: >>> On 06/07/2015 07:25 PM, Kay Schenk wrote: >>> <<>> >>> So, I'm not sure how to interpret what you said. Can I get the same results from a CentOS install using some

Re: [CentOS] newbie question on installation over existing Linux

2015-06-08 Thread g
On 06/08/2015 11:34 AM, Kay Schenk wrote: > On 06/07/2015 11:05 PM, g wrote: >> On 06/07/2015 07:25 PM, Kay Schenk wrote: >> <<>> >> >>> So, I'm not sure how to interpret what you said. Can I get the same >>> results from a CentOS install using some combination of options? >> >> because your are

Re: [CentOS] newbie question on installation over existing Linux

2015-06-08 Thread m . roth
Kay Schenk wrote: > On 06/07/2015 10:11 PM, Peter wrote: >> On 06/08/2015 12:25 PM, Kay Schenk wrote: >>> My situation is I have 7 separate Linux partitions and a swap area. >>> One of the partitions is /home, so it's already in its own partition. >>> I want to keep the partitions for CentOS exact

Re: [CentOS] newbie question on installation over existing Linux

2015-06-08 Thread Kay Schenk
On 06/07/2015 11:05 PM, g wrote: > > > On 06/07/2015 07:25 PM, Kay Schenk wrote: > <<>> > >> So, I'm not sure how to interpret what you said. Can I get the same >> results from a CentOS install using some combination of options? > > because your are playing with multi flavors, > [i bet you l

Re: [CentOS] newbie question on installation over existing Linux

2015-06-08 Thread Kay Schenk
On 06/07/2015 10:11 PM, Peter wrote: > On 06/08/2015 12:25 PM, Kay Schenk wrote: >> My situation is I have 7 separate Linux partitions and a swap area. One >> of the partitions is /home, so it's already in its own partition. >> I want to keep the partitions for CentOS exactly as I have them in t

Re: [CentOS] newbie question on installation over existing Linux

2015-06-08 Thread Robert Heller
At Sun, 07 Jun 2015 15:16:45 -0700 CentOS mailing list wrote: > > If I choose to do a fresh install of CentOS 6 with "replace existing > Linux systems", will it also wipe out my /home directory? In the past > when I've done this with another Linux distro, /home was not affected. Probably... >

Re: [CentOS] newbie question on installation over existing Linux

2015-06-07 Thread g
On 06/07/2015 07:25 PM, Kay Schenk wrote: <<>> > So, I'm not sure how to interpret what you said. Can I get the same > results from a CentOS install using some combination of options? because your are playing with multi flavors, [i bet you like going to baskin-robbins for ice cream ;-) ] a sol

Re: [CentOS] newbie question on installation over existing Linux

2015-06-07 Thread Peter
On 06/08/2015 12:25 PM, Kay Schenk wrote: > My situation is I have 7 separate Linux partitions and a swap area. One > of the partitions is /home, so it's already in its own partition. > I want to keep the partitions for CentOS exactly as I have them in terms > of size, etc. In the past, even when

Re: [CentOS] newbie question on installation over existing Linux

2015-06-07 Thread Kay Schenk
On 06/07/2015 04:52 PM, g wrote: > > > On 06/07/2015 05:29 PM, Kay Schenk wrote: >> On 06/07/2015 03:25 PM, Gregory P. Ennis wrote: > <<<>>> > >>> Yes it does replace your home directory. When I do a fresh >>> install, I back up my home directory on a usb drive and then copy >>> it back after

Re: [CentOS] newbie question on installation over existing Linux

2015-06-07 Thread g
On 06/07/2015 05:29 PM, Kay Schenk wrote: > On 06/07/2015 03:25 PM, Gregory P. Ennis wrote: <<<>>> >> Yes it does replace your home directory. When I do a fresh >> install, I back up my home directory on a usb drive and then copy >> it back after the install. I think you can also 'muck' with t

Re: [CentOS] newbie question on installation over existing Linux

2015-06-07 Thread Kay Schenk
On 06/07/2015 03:25 PM, Gregory P. Ennis wrote: > On Sun, 2015-06-07 at 15:16 -0700, Kay Schenk wrote: >> If I choose to do a fresh install of CentOS 6 with "replace existing >> Linux systems", will it also wipe out my /home directory? In the past >> when I've done this with another Linux distro,

Re: [CentOS] newbie question on installation over existing Linux

2015-06-07 Thread Gregory P. Ennis
On Sun, 2015-06-07 at 15:16 -0700, Kay Schenk wrote: > If I choose to do a fresh install of CentOS 6 with "replace existing > Linux systems", will it also wipe out my /home directory? In the past > when I've done this with another Linux distro, /home was not > affected. > > Or, would I need to do

[CentOS] newbie question on installation over existing Linux

2015-06-07 Thread Kay Schenk
If I choose to do a fresh install of CentOS 6 with "replace existing Linux systems", will it also wipe out my /home directory? In the past when I've done this with another Linux distro, /home was not affected. Or, would I need to do "fresh" install and then muck with partitioning using a Custom La