Re: [CentOS] postfix mail server

2012-09-17 Thread Karl Vogel
>> On Mon, 17 Sep 2012 20:57:25 +0200, >> Reindl Harald said: R> point 3 [Backup must be easy] is bullshit. have fun tar/rsync R> maildir/mbox CONSISTENT while the server is up. nothing easier than R> that with database-replication. Backing up maildirs doesn't require any downtime because

Re: [CentOS] postfix mail server

2012-09-17 Thread Joseph L. Casale
> If you want a list of good reasons to NOT use a database for email, > have a look at > http://www.memoryhole.net/~kyle/databaseemail.html The funny part is at scale, all the reasons he has against mail in a db are the exclusive list of why I think its a good idea, not to mention it _is_

Re: [CentOS] postfix mail server

2012-09-17 Thread Karl Vogel
>> On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 11:05 PM, wrote: J> I want to create database for stores mail and users there. >> On Mon, 17 Sep 2012 11:02:11 -0500, replied: L> I think you would need 3rd party software to put the mail store in a L> mysql or postgresql database. If you want a list of good reason

Re: [CentOS] postfix mail server

2012-09-17 Thread Les Mikesell
On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 11:05 PM, jiten jha wrote: > I want to create database for stores mail and users there. I think you would need 3rd party software to put the mail store in a mysql or postgresql database. Is there some reason you want to do that instead of using the standard dovecot or cyr

Re: [CentOS] postfix mail server

2012-09-13 Thread jiten jha
I want to create database for stores mail and users there. On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 3:03 AM, Matt wrote: > > I have postfix mail server it is running fine . In my mail server all > users > > are virtual. Can I merge all users with his/her mails in mysql or > > postgresql database. > > Does this m

Re: [CentOS] postfix mail server

2012-09-13 Thread Matt
> I have postfix mail server it is running fine . In my mail server all users > are virtual. Can I merge all users with his/her mails in mysql or > postgresql database. Does this mean you want the account details and all messages all stored in mysql rather then maildir or mbox format? Is that com

Re: [CentOS] postfix mail server

2012-09-11 Thread Les Mikesell
On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 2:18 AM, John R Pierce wrote: > > > also, postfix is a mail transfer agent, it doesn't implement the user > reader side like IMAP or POP, it just transfers messages. another > package, such as dovecot or cyrus, is used as a client agent for reading > email via pop or imap p

Re: [CentOS] postfix mail server

2012-09-11 Thread John R Pierce
On 09/10/12 11:57 PM, jiten jha wrote: > I mean I have postfix server i want to merge all mail and users in mysql. and we've gone ful circle, without you answering our questions or. the word 'merge' usually means to combine many pieces into one, like to combine a bunch of seperate files or folde

Re: [CentOS] postfix mail server

2012-09-11 Thread Frank Cox
On Tue, 11 Sep 2012 12:27:34 +0530 jiten jha wrote: > I mean I have postfix server i want to merge all mail and users in mysql. Define your purpose. That's not something that one would normally do. -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Real D 3D Digital Cinema ~ www.melvilletheatre.com www.creekfm.com - FIFTY

Re: [CentOS] postfix mail server

2012-09-10 Thread jiten jha
I mean I have postfix server i want to merge all mail and users in mysql. On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 11:04 AM, John R Pierce wrote: > On 09/10/12 9:13 PM, jiten jha wrote: > > my answer is not. I mean I have 400 user with his/her mails. So can I > shift > > or move all mails and users in MYSQL (dat

Re: [CentOS] postfix mail server

2012-09-10 Thread John R Pierce
On 09/10/12 9:13 PM, jiten jha wrote: > my answer is not. I mean I have 400 user with his/her mails. So can I shift > or move all mails and users in MYSQL (database) . shift or move all mail and users from where to where ? do you mean between two servers, or ?? -- john r pierce

Re: [CentOS] postfix mail server

2012-09-10 Thread jiten jha
my answer is not. I mean I have 400 user with his/her mails. So can I shift or move all mails and users in MYSQL (database) . On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 6:44 PM, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: > On Sun, 2012-09-09 at 22:23 -0700, John R Pierce wrote: > > On 09/09/12 9:57 PM, jiten jha wrote: > > > I ha

Re: [CentOS] postfix mail server

2012-09-10 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
On Sun, 2012-09-09 at 22:23 -0700, John R Pierce wrote: > On 09/09/12 9:57 PM, jiten jha wrote: > > I have postfix mail server it is running fine . In my mail server all users > > are virtual. Can I merge all users with his/her mails in mysql or > > postgresql database. > what exactly do you mean

Re: [CentOS] postfix mail server

2012-09-09 Thread John R Pierce
On 09/09/12 9:57 PM, jiten jha wrote: > I have postfix mail server it is running fine . In my mail server all users > are virtual. Can I merge all users with his/her mails in mysql or > postgresql database. what exactly do you mean by 'merge all users' ? -- john r pierce

[CentOS] postfix mail server

2012-09-09 Thread jiten jha
Dear Friends, I have postfix mail server it is running fine . In my mail server all users are virtual. Can I merge all users with his/her mails in mysql or postgresql database. -- Thanks & Regards Jitendra Jha +91-7498370550 ___ CentOS mailing list Cen

Re: [CentOS] Postfix mail server procedure

2011-11-14 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
On Sat, 2011-11-12 at 09:47 -0700, Craig White wrote: > On Sat, 2011-11-12 at 21:53 +0800, Christopher Chan wrote: > > On Saturday, November 12, 2011 01:01 AM, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: > > > Cyrus is incredibly reliable, stable and fast. And the latest 2.4.x > > > series closes numerous potentia

Re: [CentOS] Postfix mail server procedure

2011-11-12 Thread Craig White
On Sat, 2011-11-12 at 21:53 +0800, Christopher Chan wrote: > On Saturday, November 12, 2011 01:01 AM, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: > > People with bad hardware can break anything; and you're probably talking > > about old versions anyway [anything with indexes/databases can corrupt]. > > You should

Re: [CentOS] Postfix mail server procedure

2011-11-12 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 12.11.2011 14:53, schrieb Christopher Chan: > Oh, so Cyrus is another 'use a database as a mail store'? The other one > that I know of but cannot remember the name of uses postgresql for its > mailstore. the only REAl db-driven mailservr is dbmail and in combination with postfix-mysql-confi

Re: [CentOS] Postfix mail server procedure

2011-11-12 Thread Christopher Chan
On Saturday, November 12, 2011 01:04 AM, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: > +1 The shipped packages on most distributions are a bit lame; Simon's > packages are the way to go. They also provision everything as Skiplist > [Cyrus' preferred DB format] avoiding the ugliness that is Berkley DB > [issue wi

Re: [CentOS] Postfix mail server procedure

2011-11-12 Thread Christopher Chan
On Saturday, November 12, 2011 01:01 AM, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: > On Fri, 2011-11-11 at 13:23 +0800, Christopher Chan wrote: > You don't mention a mail store [IMAP Server]? Such as Cyrus IMAP. > Something for Postfix to deliver the mail too. Mail store != imap server. Mail store =

Re: [CentOS] Postfix mail server procedure

2011-11-11 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
On Thu, 2011-11-10 at 23:13 -0700, Craig White wrote: > > > > > > been using cyrus-imapd for years - eats dovecot for lunch in terms of > > > features/performance/reliability/scaling/flexibility and just about > > > every other imaginable use for an IMAP server. > > Hmm, I must give it a try o

Re: [CentOS] Postfix mail server procedure

2011-11-11 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
On Fri, 2011-11-11 at 13:23 +0800, Christopher Chan wrote: > >>> You don't mention a mail store [IMAP Server]? Such as Cyrus IMAP. > >>> Something for Postfix to deliver the mail too. > >> Mail store != imap server. Mail store = structure for mboxes/maildirs. > > Cyrus is sort of its own t

Re: [CentOS] Postfix mail server procedure

2011-11-11 Thread Les Mikesell
On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 9:11 AM, Craig White wrote: > >> Have you looked at the ClearOS implementation which should come up >> running out of the box connected to an LDAP user base? > > No but configuring cyrus-imapd & postfix for LDAP is trivial. In fact, once > you get clued in to LDAP, yo

Re: [CentOS] Postfix mail server procedure

2011-11-11 Thread Craig White
On Nov 11, 2011, at 6:24 AM, Les Mikesell wrote: > On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 12:13 AM, Craig White wrote: >> On Fri, 2011-11-11 at 13:38 +0800, Christopher Chan wrote: > been using cyrus-imapd for years - eats dovecot for lunch in terms of features/performance/reliability/scaling/flexib

Re: [CentOS] Postfix mail server procedure

2011-11-11 Thread Les Mikesell
On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 12:13 AM, Craig White wrote: > On Fri, 2011-11-11 at 13:38 +0800, Christopher Chan wrote: >> > been using cyrus-imapd for years - eats dovecot for lunch in terms of >> > features/performance/reliability/scaling/flexibility and just about >> > every other imaginable use for

Re: [CentOS] Postfix mail server procedure

2011-11-10 Thread Craig White
On Fri, 2011-11-11 at 13:38 +0800, Christopher Chan wrote: > On Friday, November 11, 2011 01:28 PM, Craig White wrote: > > On Fri, 2011-11-11 at 13:23 +0800, Christopher Chan wrote: > > > > > >> Sorry, I keep forgetting about that crap... > >> > >> Never touched it and never wanted to after I h

Re: [CentOS] Postfix mail server procedure

2011-11-10 Thread Craig White
On Fri, 2011-11-11 at 13:40 +0800, Christopher Chan wrote: > On Friday, November 11, 2011 01:31 PM, Craig White wrote: > > LMTP > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Local_Mail_Transfer_Protocol > > > > > > That's still nothing to do with imap/pop3 servers. dovecot provides an > LDA for just

Re: [CentOS] Postfix mail server procedure

2011-11-10 Thread Christopher Chan
On Friday, November 11, 2011 01:31 PM, Craig White wrote: > On Thu, 2011-11-10 at 21:12 -0800, John R Pierce wrote: > >> On 11/10/11 4:48 PM, Christopher Chan wrote: >> You don't mention a mail store [IMAP Server]? Such as Cyrus IMAP. > Something for Postfix to

Re: [CentOS] Postfix mail server procedure

2011-11-10 Thread Christopher Chan
On Friday, November 11, 2011 01:28 PM, Craig White wrote: > On Fri, 2011-11-11 at 13:23 +0800, Christopher Chan wrote: > > >> Sorry, I keep forgetting about that crap... >> >> Never touched it and never wanted to after I heard the screams from a >> friend who used cyrus and swore by it until he

Re: [CentOS] Postfix mail server procedure

2011-11-10 Thread Craig White
On Thu, 2011-11-10 at 21:12 -0800, John R Pierce wrote: > On 11/10/11 4:48 PM, Christopher Chan wrote: > >> You don't mention a mail store [IMAP Server]? Such as Cyrus IMAP. > >> > Something for Postfix to deliver the mail too. > >> > > > Mail store != imap server. Mail store = structure for mb

Re: [CentOS] Postfix mail server procedure

2011-11-10 Thread Craig White
On Fri, 2011-11-11 at 13:23 +0800, Christopher Chan wrote: > Sorry, I keep forgetting about that crap... > > Never touched it and never wanted to after I heard the screams from a > friend who used cyrus and swore by it until he got corrupt mailboxes. > Had to help setup postfix, dovecot and vpo

Re: [CentOS] Postfix mail server procedure

2011-11-10 Thread Les Mikesell
On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 11:23 PM, Christopher Chan wrote: >> >>> Mail store != imap server. Mail store = structure for mboxes/maildirs. >>> >>> >> Cyrus is sort of its own thing with its own mail store. >> > > Sorry, I keep forgetting about that crap... > > Never touched it and never wanted t

Re: [CentOS] Postfix mail server procedure

2011-11-10 Thread Christopher Chan
On Friday, November 11, 2011 01:00 PM, Les Mikesell wrote: > On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 6:48 PM, Christopher Chan > wrote: > >> >>> For CLAMAV you need to have clamd running and a milter. I'm not certain >>> what milter's are current - when I set one up they were all had equally >>> stale

Re: [CentOS] Postfix mail server procedure

2011-11-10 Thread John R Pierce
On 11/10/11 4:48 PM, Christopher Chan wrote: >> You don't mention a mail store [IMAP Server]? Such as Cyrus IMAP. >> > Something for Postfix to deliver the mail too. >> > > Mail store != imap server. Mail store = structure for mboxes/maildirs. indeed, reader protocol servers like imap, pop3, a

Re: [CentOS] Postfix mail server procedure

2011-11-10 Thread Les Mikesell
On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 6:48 PM, Christopher Chan wrote: > >> For CLAMAV you need to have clamd running and a milter.  I'm not certain >> what milter's are current - when I set one up they were all had equally >> stale documentation.  Does CentOS currently ship a working clamav >> milter? >> > > R

Re: [CentOS] Postfix mail server procedure

2011-11-10 Thread Christopher Chan
On Wednesday, November 09, 2011 07:23 PM, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: > On Wed, 2011-11-09 at 01:10 -0500, Jonathan Vomacka wrote: > >> CentOS Community >> I was wondering if anyone had a good resource or procedure for a step by >> step in installing a mail server with Centos. There ARE document

Re: [CentOS] Postfix mail server procedure

2011-11-10 Thread Bowie Bailey
On 11/9/2011 6:23 AM, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: > SPAMAssasin is a monster and the documentation is *BAD*. But I've > gotten it working. Just post specific questions. SpamAssassin is not THAT bad. There is a fair amount of info out there on how to integrate it with various mail servers. (http

Re: [CentOS] Postfix mail server procedure

2011-11-09 Thread Simon Slater
On Wed, 9 Nov 2011 20:33:23 Patrick Lists wrote: > On 11/09/2011 10:10 AM, Marius Vaitiekunas wrote: > > Hi, > > Maybe, somebody could recommend any good books about complete mail > > server open source solution? Sorry for OT. > > I found the "Postfix: the Definitive Guide" book by Kyle D. Dent ve

Re: [CentOS] Postfix mail server procedure

2011-11-09 Thread David C. Miller
- Original Message - > From: "Jonathan Vomacka" > To: centos@centos.org > Sent: Tuesday, November 8, 2011 10:10:28 PM > Subject: [CentOS] Postfix mail server procedure > > CentOS Community, > > I was wondering if anyone had a good resource or p

Re: [CentOS] Postfix mail server procedure

2011-11-09 Thread Mike Burger
> On 11/08/11 10:10 PM, Jonathan Vomacka wrote: > squirrelmail is not actually a mail server, its a web based mail > reader. its also not a standard part of the centos distribution. see > http://squirrelmail.org/ You sure about that? I've got a CentOS 5.6 system that I'm in the process of sta

Re: [CentOS] Postfix mail server procedure

2011-11-09 Thread Jussi Hirvi
On 9.11.2011 14.04, Jussi Hirvi wrote: > Looks like there is no similar "dual" setup for postfix. This postfix > tutorial does not look bad: > > http://www.wowtutorial.org/tutorial/169.html Uh, now I read some more of this thread and saw some (other) bad tutorials. This one is not so good either:

Re: [CentOS] Postfix mail server procedure

2011-11-09 Thread Jussi Hirvi
On 9.11.2011 13.23, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: > For CLAMAV you need to have clamd running and a milter. I'm not certain > what milter's are current - when I set one up they were all had equally > stale documentation. Does CentOS currently ship a working clamav > milter? Hope this is relevant. I

Re: [CentOS] Postfix mail server procedure

2011-11-09 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
On Wed, 2011-11-09 at 01:10 -0500, Jonathan Vomacka wrote: > CentOS Community > I was wondering if anyone had a good resource or procedure for a step by > step in installing a mail server with Centos. There ARE documents on > google, however almost all that i've found were outdated from 2005. Doe

Re: [CentOS] Postfix mail server procedure

2011-11-09 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
On Wed, 2011-11-09 at 02:58 -0600, John R. Dennison wrote: > On Wed, Nov 09, 2011 at 09:46:51AM +0100, Alexander Dalloz wrote: > > Am 09.11.2011 07:19, schrieb Leon Jacobs > > A strong NO! > Emphatically seconded. +1 Especially since CentOS 6 gives you pretty recent versions of everything. _

Re: [CentOS] Postfix mail server procedure

2011-11-09 Thread Les Bell
Alain Péan wrote: >> These two links, even if I read them rapidly, seem more accurate : http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/postfix http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/Amavisd << A few years ago, I followed the Postfix/amavisd/spamassassin/ClamAV HOWTO on the Centos Wiki and had two inbound mail gateways s

Re: [CentOS] Postfix mail server procedure

2011-11-09 Thread Patrick Lists
On 11/09/2011 10:10 AM, Marius Vaitiekunas wrote: > Hi, > Maybe, somebody could recommend any good books about complete mail > server open source solution? Sorry for OT. I found the "Postfix: the Definitive Guide" book by Kyle D. Dent very useful to learn about Postfix. There is also "The Book of

Re: [CentOS] Postfix mail server procedure

2011-11-09 Thread Alain Péan
Le 09/11/2011 10:02, Leon Jacobs a écrit : > On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 10:58 AM, John R. Dennison wrote: >> On Wed, Nov 09, 2011 at 09:46:51AM +0100, Alexander Dalloz wrote: >>> Am 09.11.2011 07:19, schrieb Leon Jacobs: >>> >>> A strong NO! >> Emphatically seconded. > Forgetting to add "A quick googl

Re: [CentOS] Postfix mail server procedure

2011-11-09 Thread Marius Vaitiekunas
On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 8:10 AM, Jonathan Vomacka wrote: > CentOS Community, > > I was wondering if anyone had a good resource or procedure for a step by > step in installing a mail server with Centos. There ARE documents on > google, however almost all that i've found were outdated from 2005. Does

Re: [CentOS] Postfix mail server procedure

2011-11-09 Thread Leon Jacobs
On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 10:58 AM, John R. Dennison wrote: > On Wed, Nov 09, 2011 at 09:46:51AM +0100, Alexander Dalloz wrote: >> Am 09.11.2011 07:19, schrieb Leon Jacobs: >> >> A strong NO! > > Emphatically seconded. Forgetting to add "A quick google came up with..." and not reading the article, i

Re: [CentOS] Postfix mail server procedure

2011-11-09 Thread John R. Dennison
On Wed, Nov 09, 2011 at 09:46:51AM +0100, Alexander Dalloz wrote: > Am 09.11.2011 07:19, schrieb Leon Jacobs: > > A strong NO! Emphatically seconded. > That "howto" tinstructs to run through source installs on CentOS. A > really bad habit. Even completeley unnecessary. Most of the howto's I've s

Re: [CentOS] Postfix mail server procedure

2011-11-09 Thread Alexander Dalloz
Am 09.11.2011 07:19, schrieb Leon Jacobs: > http://www.howtoforge.com/virtual-users-and-domains-with-postfix-courier-mysql-and-squirrelmail-centos-6.0-x86_64 A strong NO! That "howto" tinstructs to run through source installs on CentOS. A really bad habit. Even completeley unnecessary. And nob

Re: [CentOS] Postfix mail server procedure

2011-11-09 Thread Christopher Chan
On Wednesday, November 09, 2011 02:36 PM, John R Pierce wrote: > On 11/08/11 10:10 PM, Jonathan Vomacka wrote: > >> I was wondering if anyone had a good resource or procedure for a step by >> step in installing a mail server with Centos. There ARE documents on >> google, however almost all that

Re: [CentOS] Postfix mail server procedure

2011-11-08 Thread John R Pierce
On 11/08/11 10:10 PM, Jonathan Vomacka wrote: > I was wondering if anyone had a good resource or procedure for a step by > step in installing a mail server with Centos. There ARE documents on > google, however almost all that i've found were outdated from 2005. Does > anyone know where I can find t

Re: [CentOS] Postfix mail server procedure

2011-11-08 Thread Leon Jacobs
http://www.howtoforge.com/virtual-users-and-domains-with-postfix-courier-mysql-and-squirrelmail-centos-6.0-x86_64 On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 8:10 AM, Jonathan Vomacka wrote: > CentOS Community, > > I was wondering if anyone had a good resource or procedure for a step by > step in installing a mail se

[CentOS] Postfix mail server procedure

2011-11-08 Thread Jonathan Vomacka
CentOS Community, I was wondering if anyone had a good resource or procedure for a step by step in installing a mail server with Centos. There ARE documents on google, however almost all that i've found were outdated from 2005. Does anyone know where I can find this type of document for a mails