RE: [CentOS] is centos update safe

2008-06-27 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
William L. Maltby scribbled on Thursday, June 26, 2008 8:49 PM: an update of a live server without adequate testing and/or fallback plan is akin to unassisted suicide. It won't be your foot you shot yourself in if something goes drastically wrong. LOL! Clear and to the point. Good one!

Re: [CentOS] is centos update safe

2008-06-27 Thread fabian dacunha
Thanks guys for the various suggestions really do apprecite but as u guys say i shd follow .. have a perfect backup system and then do the upgrade really apprecite regards fabian simon I just updated from an i386 CentOS 5 system today, using the reccommendeds steps on my server, and

Re: [CentOS] is centos update safe

2008-06-27 Thread Kai Schaetzl
You are right, there is a difference: upgrade Is the same as the update command with the --obsoletes flag set. See update for more details. Kai -- Kai Schätzl, Berlin, Germany Get your web at Conactive Internet Services: http://www.conactive.com

Re: [CentOS] is centos update safe

2008-06-27 Thread Mogens Kjaer
Kai Schaetzl wrote: You are right, there is a difference: upgrade Is the same as the update command with the --obsoletes flag set. See update for more details. If the /etc/yum.conf file contains: obsoletes=1 yum update will be the same as yum upgrade. The yum.conf file will have

Re: [CentOS] is centos update safe

2008-06-27 Thread Rudi Ahlers
Mogens Kjaer wrote: Kai Schaetzl wrote: You are right, there is a difference: upgrade Is the same as the update command with the --obsoletes flag set. See update for more details. If the /etc/yum.conf file contains: obsoletes=1 yum update will be the same as yum upgrade. The

Re: [CentOS] is centos update safe

2008-06-27 Thread Mogens Kjaer
Rudi Ahlers wrote: ... Which is why yum upgrade is recommended, yum update may or may not work for everyone, depending on this flag Many have expressed concern because they've used yum update instead of yum upgrade. My point is that it might not be a problem. Mogens -- Mogens Kjaer,

Re: [CentOS] is centos update safe

2008-06-27 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Mogens Kjaer wrote on Fri, 27 Jun 2008 12:55:58 +0200: The yum.conf file will have this line unless manually removed And you are right, too :-) William mentioned the config file, btw, he just didn't mention the flag. Kai -- Kai Schätzl, Berlin, Germany Get your web at Conactive Internet

Re: [CentOS] is centos update safe

2008-06-27 Thread jarmo
Mogens Kjaer kirjoitti viestissään (lähetysaika perjantai, 27. kesäkuuta 2008): Rudi Ahlers wrote: ... Which is why yum upgrade is recommended, yum update may or may not work for everyone, depending on this flag Many have expressed concern because they've used yum update instead of yum

Re: [CentOS] is centos update safe

2008-06-26 Thread John R Pierce
fabian dacunha wrote: i jus wanted to know if i could SAFELY apply the updates since its a live server running our companys primary DNS and mail server noone has your exact configuration, so the only way to know if it will for sure work for you would be to test it on a staging server

RE: [CentOS] is centos update safe

2008-06-26 Thread Sorin Srbu
Why don't you clone your machine, or use Vmware or something, and do an test before you do it with your production-machine? Asking this sort of question is, well, rather meaningless IMO. Your setup is unique considering what tweaks you might've done to it. YMMV as they say. What works for me,

Re: [CentOS] is centos update safe

2008-06-26 Thread William L. Maltby
On Thu, 2008-06-26 at 11:35 -0700, John R Pierce wrote: fabian dacunha wrote: i jus wanted to know if i could SAFELY apply the updates since its a live server running our companys primary DNS and mail server In case you missed it, there was a recommended two step and parameter

Re: [CentOS] is centos update safe

2008-06-26 Thread Phil Schaffner
On Thu, 2008-06-26 at 21:46 +0300, fabian dacunha wrote: Dear All, I am curently running a CENTOS server with the following setup CentOS release 5 (Final) Kernel 2.6.18-8.1.8.el5xen on an i686 Stating the obvious, you are WAY behind on updates, including many security patches.

Re: [CentOS] is centos update safe

2008-06-26 Thread Kai Schaetzl
William L. Maltby wrote on Thu, 26 Jun 2008 14:48:48 -0400: 2. yum upgrade # not update that's supposed to be the same. Kai -- Kai Schätzl, Berlin, Germany Get your web at Conactive Internet Services: http://www.conactive.com ___ CentOS mailing

Re: [CentOS] is centos update safe

2008-06-26 Thread William L. Maltby
On Thu, 2008-06-26 at 21:31 +0200, Kai Schaetzl wrote: William L. Maltby wrote on Thu, 26 Jun 2008 14:48:48 -0400: 2. yum upgrade # not update that's supposed to be the same. IIRC, that's true if default config file wasn't modified with certain parameters. Do I mis-remember? IIRC,

Re: [CentOS] is centos update safe

2008-06-26 Thread Michael Holmes
I just updated from an i386 CentOS 5 system today, using the reccommendeds steps on my server, and it went fine. So it *should* also go fine for you, but, as has been said before, Your Mileage May Vary. 2008/6/26 William L. Maltby [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Thu, 2008-06-26 at 21:31 +0200, Kai