Re: [CentOS] Re: gcc editor for newbie (Emacs or vim or ?)

2008-08-12 Thread Nifty Cluster Mitch
On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 07:20:22PM -0500, Lanny Marcus wrote: >On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 1:30 PM, Scott Silva <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> on 8-11-2008 9:06 AM Lanny Marcus spake the following: > >>> I will look at Eclipse, but one of my goals is to be able to fix >problems >

Re: [CentOS] Re: gcc editor for newbie (Emacs or vim or ?)

2008-08-12 Thread Spiro Harvey, Knossos Networks Ltd
Edlin aarrgh my eyes... I don't know who to credit the quote to, but I think it's best described by: "Windows. From the company that brought you edlin." -- Spiro Harvey Knossos Networks Ltd 021-295-1923www.knossos.net.nz

Re: [CentOS] Re: gcc editor for newbie (Emacs or vim or ?)

2008-08-12 Thread Mihai T. Lazarescu
On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 03:27:28PM -0400, William L. Maltby wrote: > On Tue, 2008-08-12 at 20:45 +0200, Mihai T. Lazarescu wrote: > > An intuitive interface shortens the learning curve. > > An efficient interface becomes a concern after that. vi came > > to serve in an environment where most were

Re: [CentOS] Re: gcc editor for newbie (Emacs or vim or ?)

2008-08-12 Thread Frank Cox
On Tue, 12 Aug 2008 15:27:28 -0400 "William L. Maltby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Or the stupid > MS editor that used to come on DOS? Edlin was good for automated remote script generation over a serial connection. (We used to do kiosks with today's weather report and the special at the restaur

Re: [CentOS] Re: gcc editor for newbie (Emacs or vim or ?)

2008-08-12 Thread William L. Maltby
On Tue, 2008-08-12 at 20:45 +0200, Mihai T. Lazarescu wrote: > On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 10:48:10AM -0700, Florin Andrei wrote: > > > MHR wrote: > >> > >> Vi is not the world's best editor > > > > Heh, understatement of the century. > > It's an awful editor. I wish I could hire the person who came

Re: [CentOS] Re: gcc editor for newbie (Emacs or vim or ?)

2008-08-12 Thread Florin Andrei
Well, when people start to fail to understand your metaphors (or switch to the uber-literal-minded mode and attack the imperfections in the comparisons you make, instead of debating the original topic), you know it's pointless to continue the discussion. ;-) But the way this "discussion" evolv

Re: [CentOS] Re: gcc editor for newbie (Emacs or vim or ?)

2008-08-12 Thread Toby Bluhm
Florin Andrei wrote: Frank Cox wrote: On Tue, 12 Aug 2008 10:48:10 -0700 Florin Andrei <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: It's an awful editor. I wish I could hire the person who came up with the user interface, only to have the satisfaction of having him/her fired five minutes later. With no severan

Re: [CentOS] Re: gcc editor for newbie (Emacs or vim or ?)

2008-08-12 Thread Frank Cox
On Tue, 12 Aug 2008 11:25:50 -0700 Florin Andrei <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Frank Cox wrote: > > On Tue, 12 Aug 2008 10:48:10 -0700 > > Florin Andrei <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> It's an awful editor. I wish I could hire the person who came up with > >> the user interface, only to have

Re: [CentOS] Re: gcc editor for newbie (Emacs or vim or ?)

2008-08-12 Thread Mihai T. Lazarescu
On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 10:48:10AM -0700, Florin Andrei wrote: > MHR wrote: >> >> Vi is not the world's best editor > > Heh, understatement of the century. > It's an awful editor. I wish I could hire the person who came up with > the user interface, only to have the satisfaction of having him/he

Re: [CentOS] Re: gcc editor for newbie (Emacs or vim or ?)

2008-08-12 Thread Florin Andrei
Frank Cox wrote: On Tue, 12 Aug 2008 10:48:10 -0700 Florin Andrei <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: It's an awful editor. I wish I could hire the person who came up with the user interface, only to have the satisfaction of having him/her fired five minutes later. With no severance package. Viewed i

Re: [CentOS] Re: gcc editor for newbie (Emacs or vim or ?)

2008-08-12 Thread Frank Cox
On Tue, 12 Aug 2008 10:48:10 -0700 Florin Andrei <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It's an awful editor. I wish I could hire the person who came up with > the user interface, only to have the satisfaction of having him/her > fired five minutes later. With no severance package. Viewed in the context

Re: [CentOS] Re: gcc editor for newbie (Emacs or vim or ?)

2008-08-12 Thread Florin Andrei
MHR wrote: Vi is not the world's best editor Heh, understatement of the century. It's an awful editor. I wish I could hire the person who came up with the user interface, only to have the satisfaction of having him/her fired five minutes later. With no severance package. It's one of the wo

Re: [CentOS] Re: gcc editor for newbie (Emacs or vim or ?)

2008-08-12 Thread Kenneth Porter
--On Monday, August 11, 2008 7:20 PM -0500 Lanny Marcus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Then you shouldn't go wrong, because I have yet to be on a linux box or a bsd box that didn't have some form or emulation of vi installed. vi is everywhere! But, apparently, I need to learn how to use Emacs or

Re: [CentOS] Re: gcc editor for newbie (Emacs or vim or ?)

2008-08-12 Thread Ralph Angenendt
Lanny Marcus wrote: > On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 1:30 PM, Scott Silva <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > on 8-11-2008 9:06 AM Lanny Marcus spake the following: > > >> I will look at Eclipse, but one of my goals is to be able to fix > >> problems on a remote box and that will probably require vi. > > >

Re: [CentOS] Re: gcc editor for newbie (Emacs or vim or ?)

2008-08-11 Thread MHR
On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 5:20 PM, Lanny Marcus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > vi is everywhere! But, apparently, I need to learn how to use Emacs or > another IDE > too, so there's another learning curve. > I've been using vi (and vim and gvim) for more than twenty years and I've never "needed" an

Re: [CentOS] Re: gcc editor for newbie (Emacs or vim or ?)

2008-08-11 Thread Lanny Marcus
On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 1:30 PM, Scott Silva <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > on 8-11-2008 9:06 AM Lanny Marcus spake the following: >> I will look at Eclipse, but one of my goals is to be able to fix problems >> on >> a remote box and that will probably require vi. > > Then you shouldn't go wrong, be