Reopening Remote Desktop Re: [CentOS] Trying to understand Remote desktops

2007-08-29 Thread Robert Moskowitz
The server is finally up and running (kind of). Now do I have to have X running on the server, or only installed. That is can I run the server at init 3? Scott Moseman wrote: On 8/21/07, Craig White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: FAQ, http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/FreeNX I looked on

Re: [CentOS] Trying to understand Remote desktops

2007-08-24 Thread Jeremy Gray
I almost gave up myself when trying to set it up. its really worth it once you get it working. for me it would authenticate but not connect. I forget if the error message was the same as you are getting, sounds vaguely similiar. turned out that I needed to add a line to /etc/hosts.allow sshd: 127.0

Re: [CentOS] Trying to understand Remote desktops

2007-08-24 Thread Kai Schaetzl
ail.com> X-Rcpt-To: Jeremy Gray wrote on Thu, 23 Aug 2007 19:16:00 -0400: > hmmm, I'd say probably not. what about tcp wrappers maybe? I don't see how these could intervene here. This box is setup fresh and I didn't set any firewall or other access restrictions yet. This is here in my local LAN

Re: [CentOS] Trying to understand Remote desktops

2007-08-23 Thread Jeremy Gray
> ssh: connect to host xx port 22: Connection refused > > Looks like it is the client? Agreed? hmmm, I'd say probably not. what about tcp wrappers maybe? just to check the client, I deleted my 2.whatever windows client, downloaded the latest windows client 3.0.0-73, and installed. it importe

Re: [CentOS] Trying to understand Remote desktops

2007-08-23 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Kai Schaetzl wrote on Thu, 23 Aug 2007 21:31:21 +0200: > Now that I know that there is no service I'll see if I can connect to the > nx user with SSH. No problem to login with dsa key borrowed from nx user. I get the NXSERVER prompt. Seems to be okay. Either the passthru authentication for the

Re: [CentOS] Trying to understand Remote desktops

2007-08-23 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Fabian Arrotin wrote on Thu, 23 Aug 2007 20:26:42 +0200: > Was the following page not useful enough ? : Obviously not ;-) Can anyone confirm that the NX client for Windows version 3.0 should work? The page says it's not known if 3.0 works and gives a link to an older version. But that is Linux,

Re: [CentOS] Trying to understand Remote desktops

2007-08-23 Thread Fabian Arrotin
On Thu, 2007-08-23 at 13:03 -0500, Les Mikesell wrote: > Kai Schaetzl wrote: > > Scott Moseman wrote on Wed, 22 Aug 2007 09:08:59 -0500: > > > >> I finally took the time to install and configure FreeNX. > > > > I tried as well, but it fails for me. There's no service for it and no > > process wi

Re: [CentOS] Trying to understand Remote desktops

2007-08-23 Thread Les Mikesell
Kai Schaetzl wrote: Scott Moseman wrote on Wed, 22 Aug 2007 09:08:59 -0500: I finally took the time to install and configure FreeNX. I tried as well, but it fails for me. There's no service for it and no process with nx in the name running after I install nx and freenx. How am I supposed to

Re: [CentOS] Trying to understand Remote desktops

2007-08-23 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Scott Moseman wrote on Wed, 22 Aug 2007 09:08:59 -0500: > I finally took the time to install and configure FreeNX. I tried as well, but it fails for me. There's no service for it and no process with nx in the name running after I install nx and freenx. How am I supposed to know that the server

Re: [CentOS] Trying to understand Remote desktops

2007-08-23 Thread Liam Kirsher
Okay, thanks for the tip! Do the freenx rpm distributions for 64-bit contain the 32-bit ones (seems like they should if they are required) or do I have to install the 32-bit rpms separately? I'm sure I can figure this one out, but if you happen to know, do tell! Timothy Selivanow wrote: > On Wed,

Re: [CentOS] Trying to understand Remote desktops

2007-08-22 Thread Timothy Selivanow
On Wed, 2007-08-22 at 15:31 -0700, Liam Kirsher wrote: > Well, that's concise. Thanks. > > Scott Moseman wrote: > > On 8/22/07, Liam Kirsher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> It looks like FreeNX only runs on 32-bit, won't run on 64-bit kernel. > >> Is that correct? If so, is VNC the next b

Re: [CentOS] Trying to understand Remote desktops

2007-08-22 Thread Liam Kirsher
Well, that's concise. Thanks. Scott Moseman wrote: > On 8/22/07, Liam Kirsher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> It looks like FreeNX only runs on 32-bit, won't run on 64-bit kernel. >> Is that correct? If so, is VNC the next best alternative? >> >> > > # uname -srmpio > Linux 2.6.9-55.0.2.

Re: [CentOS] Trying to understand Remote desktops

2007-08-22 Thread Scott Moseman
On 8/22/07, Liam Kirsher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > It looks like FreeNX only runs on 32-bit, won't run on 64-bit kernel. > Is that correct? If so, is VNC the next best alternative? > # uname -srmpio Linux 2.6.9-55.0.2.EL x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux # nxserver --status NX> 100 NXSERVER -

Re: [CentOS] Trying to understand Remote desktops

2007-08-22 Thread Liam Kirsher
It looks like FreeNX only runs on 32-bit, won't run on 64-bit kernel. Is that correct? If so, is VNC the next best alternative? Les Mikesell wrote: > Robert Moskowitz wrote: > >>> I don't know about a minimum X install, but I've been very happy >>> with freenx on centos 5, connecting as easily f

Re: [CentOS] Trying to understand Remote desktops

2007-08-22 Thread Scott Moseman
On 8/21/07, Craig White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > FAQ, http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/FreeNX > > > > I looked on that page and I see that it integrates with SSH and can use > > SSL natively. Does NX have any advantages beyond that over VNC? > > FreeNX - it's awesome > I finally took the ti

Re: [CentOS] Trying to understand Remote desktops

2007-08-22 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Scott Silva wrote on Tue, 21 Aug 2007 11:42:34 -0700: > compression VNC has had compression since long. But it's weak on encryption, you either have to use a VPN or SSH tunnel or a server and client that fit together. I found that you don't need a VNC server on CentOS 5 to make use of VNC. The

Re: [CentOS] Trying to understand Remote desktops

2007-08-22 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Alvin Chang wrote on Tue, 21 Aug 2007 20:27:04 +0100: > NX is event-based; VNC is session-based in real-time. Can you explain that a bit? AFAIK VNC updates the screen when it finds that portions of it have been updated, you can specify those portions a bit (only detect changes in foreground win

Re: [CentOS] Trying to understand Remote desktops

2007-08-22 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Jeremy Gray wrote on Tue, 21 Aug 2007 14:59:57 -0400: > vnc clients seemed to vary a lot across platforms Definitely, for Windows there are even several of them and they deliver different experience even on the same server. At the moment I find that UltraVNC provides the best experience (after u

Re: [CentOS] Trying to understand Remote desktops

2007-08-21 Thread Les Mikesell
Robert Moskowitz wrote: I don't know about a minimum X install, but I've been very happy with freenx on centos 5, connecting as easily from mac, PC, or linux. in my lab (human brain imaging), we do remote graphics display all the time, openoffice definitely works. I wanted to be able to work f

Re: [CentOS] Trying to understand Remote desktops

2007-08-21 Thread Jeremy Gray
> Do you run the server in init 5? Or can it run in init 3? Trying to save > memory on the server > I've only tried run level 5... ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos

Re: [CentOS] Trying to understand Remote desktops

2007-08-21 Thread Alvin Chang
On 21/08/07, Robert Moskowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Do you run the server in init 5? Or can it run in init 3? > > Trying to save memory on the server > > But wait, the client has even LESS memory :( The NX server is not a daemon. The NX client will ssh into the server as user nx with S

Re: [CentOS] Trying to understand Remote desktops

2007-08-21 Thread Alvin Chang
On 21/08/07, Kai Schaetzl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I looked on that page and I see that it integrates with SSH and can use > SSL natively. Does NX have any advantages beyond that over VNC? NX is event-based; VNC is session-based in real-time. -- Alvin Chang Yu-Ming ___

Re: [CentOS] Trying to understand Remote desktops

2007-08-21 Thread Robert Moskowitz
Jeremy Gray wrote: So here we are, in the modern times with GNOME (I chose that over KDE, because), and Open Office, Thunderbird, and lots of other nice graphical apps. I want to run the apps on an app server and access them for a thin client. I am familiar with the K12

Re: [CentOS] Trying to understand Remote desktops

2007-08-21 Thread Jeremy Gray
Kai, I looked on that page and I see that it integrates with SSH and can use > SSL natively. Does NX have any advantages beyond that over VNC? I'd say nx wins on security, speed, and admin hassle-factor, at least based on my limited experience and for my needs (small research lab in a university

Re: [CentOS] Trying to understand Remote desktops

2007-08-21 Thread Craig White
On Tue, 2007-08-21 at 20:31 +0200, Kai Schaetzl wrote: > Jeremy Gray wrote on Tue, 21 Aug 2007 09:31:15 -0400: > > > FAQ, http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/FreeNX > > I looked on that page and I see that it integrates with SSH and can use > SSL natively. Does NX have any advantages beyond that over

Re: [CentOS] Trying to understand Remote desktops

2007-08-21 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Jeremy Gray wrote on Tue, 21 Aug 2007 09:31:15 -0400: > FAQ, http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/FreeNX I looked on that page and I see that it integrates with SSH and can use SSL natively. Does NX have any advantages beyond that over VNC? Kai -- Kai Schätzl, Berlin, Germany Get your web at Conacti

Re: [CentOS] Trying to understand Remote desktops

2007-08-21 Thread Les Mikesell
Robert Moskowitz wrote: This is something that has been long overdue for me to set up, and how I am looking it hard in the face. Back in '94, I was doing REAL X-Terminals into UNIX systems. Watching simple mouse meanderings eat up all available bandwidth, and forget it if you resized a windo

Re: [CentOS] Trying to understand Remote desktops

2007-08-21 Thread Jeremy Gray
> So here we are, in the modern times with GNOME (I chose that over KDE, > because), and Open Office, Thunderbird, and lots of other nice graphical > apps. > > I want to run the apps on an app server and access them for a thin > client. I am familiar with the K12TLSP project, but right now I want