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> [mailto:centos-docs-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of Ralph Angenendt
> Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 9:37 AM
> To: centos-docs@centos.org
> Subject: Re: [CentOS-docs] Improving the website and forum
On 06/01/2009, Dag Wieers wrote:
>
> On Tue, 6 Jan 2009, Akemi Yagi wrote:
>
> > On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 8:09 AM, Dag Wieers wrote:
> >
> >> I don't know why everyone seems to think we are going to change
> *ANYTHING*
> >> to the way the forums work. The only thing I asked to consider is
> changin
On Tue, 6 Jan 2009, Akemi Yagi wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 8:09 AM, Dag Wieers wrote:
>
>> I don't know why everyone seems to think we are going to change *ANYTHING*
>> to the way the forums work. The only thing I asked to consider is changing
>> the page title. Something a forum user would n
On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 8:09 AM, Dag Wieers wrote:
> I don't know why everyone seems to think we are going to change *ANYTHING*
> to the way the forums work. The only thing I asked to consider is changing
> the page title. Something a forum user would not even notice because that
> is *NOT* what t
On Tue, 6 Jan 2009, Alan Bartlett wrote:
> On 05/01/2009, Dag Wieers wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, 5 Jan 2009, Ned Slider wrote:
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Personally, I'd prefer to see the title of the thread/post followed by
>>> the source returned for a search. So when googling "best Linux" the
>>> searcher may ge
JohnS wrote:
>
> On Mon, 2009-01-05 at 21:19 +, Karanbir Singh wrote:
> > JohnS wrote:
> > > One other hinderance is tha MoinMoin uses a Flat File Data Base instead
> > > of a RDMS. Which when the site gets really bigger you will
> > > begin to notice the filesystem load greatly.
> >
> > as
On 05/01/2009, Dag Wieers wrote:
>
> On Mon, 5 Jan 2009, Ned Slider wrote:
>
>
> >
> > Personally, I'd prefer to see the title of the thread/post followed by
> > the source returned for a search. So when googling "best Linux" the
> > searcher may get the following results:
> >
> > Is it true that
On Tue, 6 Jan 2009, Karanbir Singh wrote:
> Dag Wieers wrote:
>> And the fact that none of the wiki-pages are in the top is another
>> problem. Those pages are definitely more important than most of the search
>> results. The fact that the wiki title is not used is mostly to blame.
>>
>> So I woul
Dag Wieers wrote:
> And the fact that none of the wiki-pages are in the top is another
> problem. Those pages are definitely more important than most of the search
> results. The fact that the wiki title is not used is mostly to blame.
>
> So I would urge to have those thing fixed asap.
>
have
On Mon, 5 Jan 2009, Ned Slider wrote:
> Akemi Yagi wrote:
>> On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 1:16 PM, Karanbir Singh wrote:
>>
>>> Forum moderators would be able to provide more feedback here : how
>>> relevant and accurate are most topic's for threads ? If they are
>>> bang-on, perhaps it might be a good
JohnS wrote:
> On Mon, 2009-01-05 at 21:16 +, Karanbir Singh wrote:
>
>
>> JohnS: there is no such thing as www.wiki.centos.org - so I am not sure
>> what you are talking about.
>
> There's not??? Could have fooled me then! Maybe check out ya WWW and
> HTTP responses. It's not my problem th
On Mon, 5 Jan 2009, Karanbir Singh wrote:
> Dag Wieers wrote:
>> Something that is not helping us with Google is the prefix "www.centos.org -
>> "
>> to every page of the website (including the forums).
>
> Its good to see people taking some initiative on the seo side of things,
> however most of
On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 2:41 PM, Scott Robbins wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 05, 2009 at 10:23:04PM +, Ned Slider wrote:
>>
>> Now, if we could just do something about those URGENT - PLEASE HELP!!!
>> threads for which google returns 474,000 hits (not all of which are on
>> centos!)
>
> I wonder if it's
On Mon, 2009-01-05 at 21:19 +, Karanbir Singh wrote:
> JohnS wrote:
> > One other hinderance is tha MoinMoin uses a Flat File Data Base instead of
> > a RDMS. Which when the site gets really bigger you will
> > begin to notice the filesystem load greatly.
>
> as opposed to having a db that
On Mon, 2009-01-05 at 21:16 +, Karanbir Singh wrote:
> JohnS: there is no such thing as www.wiki.centos.org - so I am not sure
> what you are talking about.
There's not??? Could have fooled me then! Maybe check out ya WWW and
HTTP responses. It's not my problem the server can't answer a
ht
On Mon, Jan 05, 2009 at 10:23:04PM +, Ned Slider wrote:
>
> Now, if we could just do something about those URGENT - PLEASE HELP!!!
> threads for which google returns 474,000 hits (not all of which are on
> centos!)
I wonder if it's worth changing such subject lines when they
appear--they'r
Akemi Yagi wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 1:16 PM, Karanbir Singh wrote:
>
>> Forum moderators would be able to provide more feedback here : how
>> relevant and accurate are most topic's for threads ? If they are
>> bang-on, perhaps it might be a good idea to replace the entire title of
>> the p
On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 1:16 PM, Karanbir Singh wrote:
> Forum moderators would be able to provide more feedback here : how
> relevant and accurate are most topic's for threads ? If they are
> bang-on, perhaps it might be a good idea to replace the entire title of
> the page with just the title of
JohnS wrote:
> One other hinderance is tha MoinMoin uses a Flat File Data Base instead of a
> RDMS. Which when the site gets really bigger you will
> begin to notice the filesystem load greatly.
as opposed to having a db that thrashes itself ? I fail to see what your
point here is.
--
Karanbi
Dag Wieers wrote:
> Something that is not helping us with Google is the prefix "www.centos.org - "
> to every page of the website (including the forums).
Its good to see people taking some initiative on the seo side of things,
however most of whats in this thread seems to be oriented towards much
Von meinem iPhone gesendet
Dear David.
> Dag Wieers napsal(a):
>> Well, I disagree that this is useful for every individual page. The
>> centos.org in the URL as well as in Google search result pretty much
>> proves the point, we don't need it again in the page title (and
>> certainly
>> NOT a
On Sun, 2009-01-04 at 01:14 +0100, Dag Wieers wrote:
> On Sat, 3 Jan 2009, Ralph Angenendt wrote:
>
> > JohnS wrote:
> >>
> >> On Sat, 2009-01-03 at 19:41 +0100, Ralph Angenendt wrote:
> >>> JohnS wrote:
> Hey Dag, does the Wiki even have a Site Map? If not that can greatly
> help with
On Sat, 3 Jan 2009, Ralph Angenendt wrote:
> JohnS wrote:
>>
>> On Sat, 2009-01-03 at 19:41 +0100, Ralph Angenendt wrote:
>>> JohnS wrote:
Hey Dag, does the Wiki even have a Site Map? If not that can greatly
help with the google searches (has to be submitted to Google).
>>>
>>> http://wi
See my post on that
On Sat, 2009-01-03 at 23:34 +0200, Manuel Wolfshant wrote:
> On 01/03/2009 10:17 PM, Ralph Angenendt wrote:
> > JohnS wrote:
> >
> >> On Sat, 2009-01-03 at 19:41 +0100, Ralph Angenendt wrote:
> >>
> >>> JohnS wrote:
> >>>
> Hey Dag, does the Wiki even have a
On Sat, 2009-01-03 at 21:17 +0100, Ralph Angenendt wrote:
> JohnS wrote:
> >
> > On Sat, 2009-01-03 at 19:41 +0100, Ralph Angenendt wrote:
> > > JohnS wrote:
> > > > Hey Dag, does the Wiki even have a Site Map? If not that can greatly
> > > > help with the google searches (has to be submitted to
On 01/03/2009 10:17 PM, Ralph Angenendt wrote:
> JohnS wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 2009-01-03 at 19:41 +0100, Ralph Angenendt wrote:
>>
>>> JohnS wrote:
>>>
Hey Dag, does the Wiki even have a Site Map? If not that can greatly
help with the google searches (has to be submitted to Go
On Sat, 3 Jan 2009, Ralph Angenendt wrote:
> JohnS wrote:
>> Hey Dag, does the Wiki even have a Site Map? If not that can greatly
>> help with the google searches (has to be submitted to Google).
>
> http://wiki.centos.org/TitleIndex is there. No idea if that is what Google
> accepts as a sitemap.
Dag Wieers napsal(a):
> Well, I disagree that this is useful for every individual page. The
> centos.org in the URL as well as in Google search result pretty much
> proves the point, we don't need it again in the page title (and certainly
> NOT at the beginning of the title).
>
Dag's pretty ri
JohnS wrote:
>
> On Sat, 2009-01-03 at 19:41 +0100, Ralph Angenendt wrote:
> > JohnS wrote:
> > > Hey Dag, does the Wiki even have a Site Map? If not that can greatly
> > > help with the google searches (has to be submitted to Google).
> >
> > http://wiki.centos.org/TitleIndex is there. No idea
On Sat, 3 Jan 2009, Marcus Moeller wrote:
> Dear Dag
>
>> Something that is not helping us with Google is the prefix "www.centos.org -
>> "
>> to every page of the website (including the forums).
>>
>> It is annoying in the sense that it pushes the important keywords to the
>> end of the title an
On Sat, 3 Jan 2009, Akemi Yagi wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 3, 2009 at 6:45 AM, Dag Wieers wrote:
>
>> www.centos.org - Forums - CentOS 5 - Networking Support - Wireless ...
>> 14.7. Establishing a Wireless Connection
>> www.centos.org - Forums - CentOS 5 - Networking Support - Intel ...
>
>> My advise:
On Sat, 2009-01-03 at 19:41 +0100, Ralph Angenendt wrote:
> JohnS wrote:
> > Hey Dag, does the Wiki even have a Site Map? If not that can greatly
> > help with the google searches (has to be submitted to Google).
>
> http://wiki.centos.org/TitleIndex is there. No idea if that is what Google
> ac
JohnS wrote:
> Hey Dag, does the Wiki even have a Site Map? If not that can greatly
> help with the google searches (has to be submitted to Google).
http://wiki.centos.org/TitleIndex is there. No idea if that is what Google
accepts as a sitemap.
> Also each page upon creation needs a way to Inhe
Dag Wieers wrote:
> www.centos.org - Forums - CentOS 5 - Networking Support - Wireless ...
> 14.7. Establishing a Wireless Connection
> - Get rid of the "www.centos.org -" prefix for all pages
>
> - Get rid of the "Forums -" prefix for the forums
>
> - Get rid of the "Networking Support" p
On Sat, 2009-01-03 at 15:45 +0100, Dag Wieers wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Something that is not helping us with Google is the prefix "www.centos.org - "
> to every page of the website (including the forums).
>
> It is annoying in the sense that it pushes the important keywords to the
> end of the title an
Dear Akemi,
>> www.centos.org - Forums - CentOS 5 - Networking Support - Wireless ...
>> 14.7. Establishing a Wireless Connection
>> www.centos.org - Forums - CentOS 5 - Networking Support - Intel ...
>
>> My advise:
>>
>> - Get rid of the "www.centos.org -" prefix for all pages
>
> Not sure how
Dear Dag
> Something that is not helping us with Google is the prefix "www.centos.org - "
> to every page of the website (including the forums).
>
> It is annoying in the sense that it pushes the important keywords to the
> end of the title and sometimes out of view of regular users (yes, Google
>
On Sat, Jan 3, 2009 at 6:45 AM, Dag Wieers wrote:
>
> www.centos.org - Forums - CentOS 5 - Networking Support - Wireless ...
> 14.7. Establishing a Wireless Connection
> www.centos.org - Forums - CentOS 5 - Networking Support - Intel ...
> My advise:
>
> - Get rid of the "www.centos.org -" prefi
Hi,
Something that is not helping us with Google is the prefix "www.centos.org - "
to every page of the website (including the forums).
It is annoying in the sense that it pushes the important keywords to the
end of the title and sometimes out of view of regular users (yes, Google
search resuls
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