RE: Inline dedup/compression

2015-08-20 Thread Chaitanya Huilgol
e same OSD be pretty low? Regards, Chaitanya -Original Message- From: Allen Samuels Sent: Friday, August 21, 2015 9:07 AM To: Haomai Wang Cc: Chaitanya Huilgol; James (Fei) Liu-SSI; ceph-devel Subject: RE: Inline dedup/compression XFS shouldn't have any trouble with the "ho

RE: Inline dedup/compression

2015-08-20 Thread Allen Samuels
CA 95134 T: +1 408 801 7030| M: +1 408 780 6416 allen.samu...@sandisk.com -Original Message- From: Chaitanya Huilgol Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2015 9:43 PM To: Allen Samuels; Haomai Wang Cc: James (Fei) Liu-SSI; ceph-devel Subject: RE: Inline dedup/compression Hi, The original idea of

RE: Inline dedup/compression

2015-08-20 Thread Allen Samuels
ust 20, 2015 8:01 PM To: Allen Samuels Cc: Chaitanya Huilgol; James (Fei) Liu-SSI; ceph-devel Subject: Re: Inline dedup/compression sorry, should be this blog(http://mysqlserverteam.com/innodb-transparent-page-compression/) On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 10:51 AM, Haomai Wang wrote: > I found a > blog(h

Re: Inline dedup/compression

2015-08-20 Thread Haomai Wang
;> allen.samu...@sandisk.com >> >> >> -----Original Message- >> From: Chaitanya Huilgol >> Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2015 3:50 AM >> To: James (Fei) Liu-SSI; Allen Samuels; Haomai Wang >> Cc: ceph-devel >> Subject: RE: Inline dedup/compression >

Re: Inline dedup/compression

2015-08-20 Thread Haomai Wang
030| M: +1 408 780 6416 > allen.samu...@sandisk.com > > > -Original Message- > From: Chaitanya Huilgol > Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2015 3:50 AM > To: James (Fei) Liu-SSI; Allen Samuels; Haomai Wang > Cc: ceph-devel > Subject: RE: Inline dedup/compression > &g

RE: Inline dedup/compression

2015-07-02 Thread Allen Samuels
lpitas, CA 95134 T: +1 408 801 7030| M: +1 408 780 6416 allen.samu...@sandisk.com -Original Message- From: Chaitanya Huilgol Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2015 3:50 AM To: James (Fei) Liu-SSI; Allen Samuels; Haomai Wang Cc: ceph-devel Subject: RE: Inline dedup/compression Hi James et.al ,

RE: Inline dedup/compression

2015-07-02 Thread Chaitanya Huilgol
, July 02, 2015 9:05 PM To: Chaitanya Huilgol Cc: ceph-devel; James (Fei) Liu-SSI; Allen Samuels; Haomai Wang Subject: Re: Inline dedup/compression Hi Chaitanya, Have you ruled out variants using fixed chunksize? (Arguments for/against fingerprinting elided.) Matt - "Chaitanya Huilgol&qu

Re: Inline dedup/compression

2015-07-02 Thread Matt W. Benjamin
> Chaitanya > > -Original Message- > From: James (Fei) Liu-SSI [mailto:james@ssi.samsung.com] > Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 4:00 AM > To: Chaitanya Huilgol; Allen Samuels; Haomai Wang > Cc: ceph-devel > Subject: RE: Inline dedup/compression > > Hi Chaitan

RE: Inline dedup/compression

2015-07-02 Thread Chaitanya Huilgol
com] Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 4:00 AM To: Chaitanya Huilgol; Allen Samuels; Haomai Wang Cc: ceph-devel Subject: RE: Inline dedup/compression Hi Chaitanya, Very interesting thoughts. I am not sure whether I get all of them or now. Here are several questions for the solution you provided,

Re: Inline dedup/compression

2015-07-01 Thread Ning Yao
For compression, I prefer to implement it in ECpool, it is much easier because objects in ECpool are already striped, which is what we have already finished now(and in testing). And the only Append write operation is allowed in EC, which is also lead us to implement it conveniently. Moreover, as is

RE: Inline dedup/compression

2015-06-30 Thread James (Fei) Liu-SSI
nt: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 8:50 AM To: Allen Samuels; James (Fei) Liu-SSI; Haomai Wang Cc: ceph-devel Subject: RE: Inline dedup/compression - Reference count has to be maintained as an attribute of the object - As mentioned in the write workflow, duplicate segment writes increment the referen

RE: Inline dedup/compression

2015-06-30 Thread Allen Samuels
-devel Subject: RE: Inline dedup/compression Below is an alternative idea at a very high level around dedup with ceph without a need of centralized hash index, - Dedupe is set as a pool property Write: - Write arrives at the primary OSD/pg - Data is segmented (rabin/static) and secure hash

RE: Inline dedup/compression

2015-06-30 Thread Chaitanya Huilgol
: ceph-devel Subject: RE: Inline dedup/compression Below is an alternative idea at a very high level around dedup with ceph without a need of centralized hash index, - Dedupe is set as a pool property Write: - Write arrives at the primary OSD/pg - Data is segmented (rabin/static) and secure hash

Re: Inline dedup/compression

2015-06-30 Thread Alexandre DERUMIER
James (Fei) Liu-SSI" , "ceph-devel" Envoyé: Mardi 30 Juin 2015 08:20:47 Objet: Re: Inline dedup/compression On 30 June 2015 at 16:03, Haomai Wang wrote: > On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 4:55 AM, James (Fei) Liu-SSI > wrote: >> Hi Haomai, >> Thanks for moving the

RE: Inline dedup/compression

2015-06-29 Thread Dałek , Piotr
> -Original Message- > From: ceph-devel-ow...@vger.kernel.org [mailto:ceph-devel- > ow...@vger.kernel.org] On Behalf Of James (Fei) Liu-SSI > Sent: Friday, June 26, 2015 12:01 AM > > Hi Cephers, > It is not easy to ask when Ceph is going to support inline >

RE: Inline dedup/compression

2015-06-29 Thread Chaitanya Huilgol
the network Regards, Chaitanya -Original Message- From: ceph-devel-ow...@vger.kernel.org [mailto:ceph-devel-ow...@vger.kernel.org] On Behalf Of James (Fei) Liu-SSI Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 2:25 AM To: Haomai Wang Cc: ceph-devel Subject: RE: Inline dedup/compression Hi Haomai, Thank

Re: Inline dedup/compression

2015-06-29 Thread Blair Bethwaite
On 30 June 2015 at 16:03, Haomai Wang wrote: > On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 4:55 AM, James (Fei) Liu-SSI > wrote: >> Hi Haomai, >> Thanks for moving the idea forward. Regarding to the compression. >> However, if we do compression on the client level, it is not global. And >> the compression was

Re: Inline dedup/compression

2015-06-29 Thread Haomai Wang
. Let me think > more about it. > > Regards, > James > > -Original Message- > From: Haomai Wang [mailto:haomaiw...@gmail.com] > Sent: Friday, June 26, 2015 8:55 PM > To: James (Fei) Liu-SSI > Cc: ceph-devel > Subject: Re: Inline dedup/compression > > On Sat

RE: Inline dedup/compression

2015-06-29 Thread James (Fei) Liu-SSI
: Inline dedup/compression On Sat, Jun 27, 2015 at 2:03 AM, James (Fei) Liu-SSI wrote: > Hi Haomai, > Thanks for your response as always. I agree compression is comparable > easier task but still very challenge in terms of implementation no matter > where we should implement . Clie

Re: Inline dedup/compression

2015-06-29 Thread Matt W. Benjamin
ssion. It is not > apple to apple comparison. But it is good reference. The datacenters > need cost effective solution. > > > > Regards, > > James > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Haomai Wang [mailto:haomaiw...@gmail.com] &

RE: Inline dedup/compression

2015-06-29 Thread James (Fei) Liu-SSI
world. But everybody want to save space/cost as data grows. Regards, James -Original Message- From: Gregory Farnum [mailto:g...@gregs42.com] Sent: Monday, June 29, 2015 4:01 AM To: James (Fei) Liu-SSI Cc: Haomai Wang; ceph-devel Subject: Re: Inline dedup/compression We discuss this periodical

Re: Inline dedup/compression

2015-06-29 Thread Gregory Farnum
m: Haomai Wang [mailto:haomaiw...@gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 8:08 PM > To: James (Fei) Liu-SSI > Cc: ceph-devel > Subject: Re: Inline dedup/compression > > On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 6:01 AM, James (Fei) Liu-SSI > wrote: >> Hi Cephers, >> It is not

Re: Inline dedup/compression

2015-06-26 Thread Haomai Wang
iw...@gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 8:08 PM > To: James (Fei) Liu-SSI > Cc: ceph-devel > Subject: Re: Inline dedup/compression > > On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 6:01 AM, James (Fei) Liu-SSI > wrote: >> Hi Cephers, >> It is not easy to ask when Ceph is

RE: Inline dedup/compression

2015-06-26 Thread Handzik, Joe
ssage- From: ceph-devel-ow...@vger.kernel.org [mailto:ceph-devel-ow...@vger.kernel.org] On Behalf Of James (Fei) Liu-SSI Sent: Friday, June 26, 2015 1:03 PM To: Haomai Wang Cc: ceph-devel Subject: RE: Inline dedup/compression Hi Haomai, Thanks for your response as always. I agree compressio

RE: Inline dedup/compression

2015-06-26 Thread James (Fei) Liu-SSI
/compression On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 6:01 AM, James (Fei) Liu-SSI wrote: > Hi Cephers, > It is not easy to ask when Ceph is going to support inline > dedup/compression across OSDs in RADOS because it is not easy task and > answered. Ceph is providing replication and EC for performance

Re: Inline dedup/compression

2015-06-25 Thread Haomai Wang
On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 6:01 AM, James (Fei) Liu-SSI wrote: > Hi Cephers, > It is not easy to ask when Ceph is going to support inline > dedup/compression across OSDs in RADOS because it is not easy task and > answered. Ceph is providing replication and EC for performance

Re: Inline dedup/compression

2015-06-25 Thread Benoît Canet
Le Ven 26 juin 2015, à 00:01, James (Fei) Liu-SSI a écrit : > Hi Cephers, > It is not easy to ask when Ceph is going to support inline > dedup/compression across OSDs in RADOS. disclamer: I am not a Cepher. This would mean some kind of distributed key value store that is fa

Inline dedup/compression

2015-06-25 Thread James (Fei) Liu-SSI
Hi Cephers, It is not easy to ask when Ceph is going to support inline dedup/compression across OSDs in RADOS because it is not easy task and answered. Ceph is providing replication and EC for performance and failure recovery. But we also lose the efficiency of storage store and cost