[ceph-users] Re: Ceph Month June Schedule Now Available

2021-06-18 Thread Mike Perez
Hi everyone, Join us in ten minutes for more Ceph Month presentations! 9:00 ET / 15:00 CEST Optimizing Ceph on Arm64 [Richael Zhuang] 9:30 ET / 15:30 CEST Improving Cosbench for Ceph Benchmarking [Danny Abukalam] Meeting link:https://bluejeans.com/908675367 Full schedule: https://pad.ceph.com/p/

[ceph-users] Re: Why you might want packages not containers for Ceph deployments

2021-06-18 Thread Sage Weil
I'm arriving late to this thread, but a few things stood out that I wanted to clarify. On Wed, Jun 2, 2021 at 4:28 PM Oliver Freyermuth wrote: > To conclude, I strongly believe there's no one size fits all here. > > That was why I was hopeful when I first heard about the Ceph orchestrator > idea

[ceph-users] Re: Why you might want packages not containers for Ceph deployments

2021-06-18 Thread Sage Weil
On Thu, Jun 3, 2021 at 2:18 AM Marc wrote: > Not using cephadm, I would also question other things like: > > - If it uses docker and docker daemon fails what happens to you containers? This is an obnoxious feature of docker; podman does not have this problem. > - I assume the ceph-osd containers

[ceph-users] Re: Why you might want packages not containers for Ceph deployments

2021-06-18 Thread Sage Weil
On Wed, Jun 2, 2021 at 9:01 AM Daniel Baumann wrote: > > * Ceph users will benefit from both approaches being supported into the > > future > > this is rather important for us as well. > > we use systemd-nspawn based containers (that act and are managed like > traditional VMs, just without the ov

[ceph-users] Re: Why you might want packages not containers for Ceph deployments

2021-06-18 Thread Sage Weil
Following up with some general comments on the main container downsides and on the upsides that led us down this path in the first place. Aside from a few minor misunderstandings, it seems like most of the objections to containers boil down to a few major points: > Containers are more complicated