Re: [ceph-users] [Ceph-maintainers] Ceph release cadence

2017-09-10 Thread Yehuda Sadeh-Weinraub
I'm not a huge fan of train releases, as they tend to never quite make it on time and it always feels a bit artificial timeline anyway. OTOH, I do see and understand the need of a predictable schedule with a roadmap attached to it. There are many that need to have at least a vague idea on what we'r

Re: [ceph-users] [Ceph-maintainers] Ceph release cadence

2017-09-08 Thread Gregory Farnum
I think I'm the resident train release advocate so I'm sure my advocating that model will surprise nobody. I'm not sure I'd go all the way to Lars' multi-release maintenance model (although it's definitely something I'm interested in), but there are two big reasons I wish we were on a train with mo

Re: [ceph-users] [Ceph-maintainers] Ceph release cadence

2017-09-08 Thread Sage Weil
I'm going to pick on Lars a bit here... On Thu, 7 Sep 2017, Lars Marowsky-Bree wrote: > On 2017-09-06T15:23:34, Sage Weil wrote: > > Other options we should consider? Other thoughts? > > With about 20-odd years in software development, I've become a big > believer in schedule-driven releases. I

Re: [ceph-users] [Ceph-maintainers] Ceph release cadence

2017-09-07 Thread Lars Marowsky-Bree
On 2017-09-06T15:23:34, Sage Weil wrote: Hi Sage, thanks for kicking off this discussion - after the L experience, it was on my hot list to talk about too. I do agree that we need predictable releases more than feature-rich releases. Distributors like to plan, but that's not a reason. However,