Re: [ceph-users] Default min_size value for EC pools

2019-05-21 Thread Frank Schilder
s Bygning 109, rum S14 From: Paul Emmerich Sent: 21 May 2019 09:45 To: Frank Schilder Cc: Florent B; ceph-users Subject: Re: [ceph-users] Default min_size value for EC pools No, there is no split brain problem even with size/mine_size 2/1. A PG will not

Re: [ceph-users] Default min_size value for EC pools

2019-05-21 Thread Paul Emmerich
== > Frank Schilder > AIT Risø Campus > Bygning 109, rum S14 > > > From: Florent B > Sent: 20 May 2019 21:33 > To: Paul Emmerich; Frank Schilder > Cc: ceph-users > Subject: Re: [ceph-users] Default min_size value f

Re: [ceph-users] Default min_size value for EC pools

2019-05-20 Thread Maged Mokhtar
Not sure. In general important fixes get backported, but will have to wait and see. /Maged On 20/05/2019 22:11, Frank Schilder wrote: Dear Maged, thanks for elaborating on this question. Is there already information in which release this patch will be deployed? Best regards,

Re: [ceph-users] Default min_size value for EC pools

2019-05-20 Thread Frank Schilder
Dear Maged, thanks for elaborating on this question. Is there already information in which release this patch will be deployed? Best regards, = Frank Schilder AIT Risø Campus Bygning 109, rum S14 ___ ceph-users mailing list

Re: [ceph-users] Default min_size value for EC pools

2019-05-20 Thread Frank Schilder
9, rum S14 From: Florent B Sent: 20 May 2019 21:33 To: Paul Emmerich; Frank Schilder Cc: ceph-users Subject: Re: [ceph-users] Default min_size value for EC pools I understand better thanks to Frank & Paul messages. Paul, when min_size=k, is it the same problem with replicat

Re: [ceph-users] Default min_size value for EC pools

2019-05-20 Thread Maged Mokhtar
On 20/05/2019 19:37, Frank Schilder wrote: This is an issue that is coming up every now and then (for example: https://www.mail-archive.com/ceph-users@lists.ceph.com/msg50415.html) and I would consider it a very serious one (I will give an example below). A statement like "min_size = k is

Re: [ceph-users] Default min_size value for EC pools

2019-05-20 Thread Frank Schilder
9, rum S14 From: Paul Emmerich Sent: 20 May 2019 21:23 To: Frank Schilder Cc: florent; ceph-users Subject: Re: [ceph-users] Default min_size value for EC pools Yeah, the current situation with recovery and min_size is... unfortunate :( The reason why min_size = k is b

Re: [ceph-users] Default min_size value for EC pools

2019-05-20 Thread Paul Emmerich
Yeah, the current situation with recovery and min_size is... unfortunate :( The reason why min_size = k is bad is just that it means you are accepting writes without guaranteeing durability while you are in a degraded state. A durable storage system should never tell a client "okay, i've written

Re: [ceph-users] Default min_size value for EC pools

2019-05-20 Thread Frank Schilder
This is an issue that is coming up every now and then (for example: https://www.mail-archive.com/ceph-users@lists.ceph.com/msg50415.html) and I would consider it a very serious one (I will give an example below). A statement like "min_size = k is unsafe and should never be set" deserves a bit

Re: [ceph-users] Default min_size value for EC pools

2019-05-19 Thread Marc Roos
https://ceph.com/community/new-luminous-erasure-coding-rbd-cephfs/ -Original Message- From: Florent B [mailto:flor...@coppint.com] Sent: zondag 19 mei 2019 12:06 To: Paul Emmerich Cc: Ceph Users Subject: Re: [ceph-users] Default min_size value for EC pools Thank you Paul for your

Re: [ceph-users] Default min_size value for EC pools

2019-05-19 Thread Paul Emmerich
Default is k+1 or k if m == 1 min_size = k is unsafe and should never be set. Paul -- Paul Emmerich Looking for help with your Ceph cluster? Contact us at https://croit.io croit GmbH Freseniusstr. 31h 81247 München www.croit.io Tel: +49 89 1896585 90 On Sun, May 19, 2019 at 11:31 AM