Re: [ceph-users] SSD Hardware recommendation

2015-04-09 Thread f...@univ-lr.fr
Hi all, just an update - but an important one - of the previous benchmark with 2 new "10 DWPD class" contenders : - Seagate 1200 - ST200FM0053 - SAS 12Gb/s - Intel DC S3700 - SATA 6Gb/s The graph : http://www.4shared.com/download/yaeJgJiFce/Perf-SSDs-Toshiba-Seagate-Inte.png?lgfp=3000

Re: [ceph-users] SSD Hardware recommendation

2015-03-31 Thread Adam Tygart
Speaking of SSD IOPs. Running the same tests on my SSDs (LiteOn ECT-480N9S 480GB SSDs): The lines at the bottom are a single 6TB spinning disk for comparison's sake. http://imgur.com/a/fD0Mh Based on these numbers, there is a minimum latency per operation, but multiple operations can be performed

Re: [ceph-users] SSD Hardware recommendation

2015-03-31 Thread f...@univ-lr.fr
Hi, in our quest to get the right SSD for OSD journals, I managed to benchmark two kind of "10 DWPD" SSDs : - Toshiba M2 PX02SMF020 - Samsung 845DC PRO I wan't to determine if a disk is appropriate considering its absolute performances, and the optimal number of ceph-osd processes using the S

Re: [ceph-users] SSD Hardware recommendation

2015-03-23 Thread Christian Balzer
be 128/4 = 32x write amplification. > > > > (of course ssd algorithms and optimisations reduce this write > > amplification). > > > > Now, it could be great to see if it's coming from osd journal or osd > > datas. > > > > (not tested,

Re: [ceph-users] SSD Hardware recommendation

2015-03-23 Thread Christian Balzer
educe amplification. > > Don't known how ssd internal algorithms work for this. > > > - Mail original - > De: "aderumier" > À: "Christian Balzer" > Cc: "ceph-users" > Envoyé: Lundi 23 Mars 2015 07:36:48 > Objet: Re: [

Re: [ceph-users] SSD Hardware recommendation

2015-03-22 Thread Alexandre DERUMIER
7;t known how ssd internal algorithms work for this. - Mail original - De: "aderumier" À: "Christian Balzer" Cc: "ceph-users" Envoyé: Lundi 23 Mars 2015 07:36:48 Objet: Re: [ceph-users] SSD Hardware recommendation Hi, Isn't it in the nature of ssd to ha

Re: [ceph-users] SSD Hardware recommendation

2015-03-22 Thread Alexandre DERUMIER
7;s coming from osd journal or osd datas. (not tested, but I think with journal and O_DSYNC writes, it can give use ssd write amplification) - Mail original - De: "Christian Balzer" À: "ceph-users" Envoyé: Lundi 23 Mars 2015 03:11:39 Objet: Re: [ceph-users] SSD Hardw

Re: [ceph-users] SSD Hardware recommendation

2015-03-22 Thread Christian Balzer
On Mon, 23 Mar 2015 02:33:20 +0100 Francois Lafont wrote: > Hi, > > Sorry Christian for my late answer. I was a little busy. > > Christian Balzer a wrote: > > > You're asking the wrong person, as I'm neither a Ceph or kernel > > developer. ^o^ > > No, no, the rest of the message proves to me t

Re: [ceph-users] SSD Hardware recommendation

2015-03-22 Thread Francois Lafont
Hi, Sorry Christian for my late answer. I was a little busy. Christian Balzer a wrote: > You're asking the wrong person, as I'm neither a Ceph or kernel > developer. ^o^ No, no, the rest of the message proves to me that I talk to the right person. ;) > Back then Mark Nelson from the Ceph team

Re: [ceph-users] SSD Hardware recommendation

2015-03-20 Thread Josef Johansson
> On 19 Mar 2015, at 08:17, Christian Balzer wrote: > > On Wed, 18 Mar 2015 08:59:14 +0100 Josef Johansson wrote: > >> Hi, >> >>> On 18 Mar 2015, at 05:29, Christian Balzer wrote: >>> >>> >>> Hello, >>> >>> On Wed, 18 Mar 2015 03:52:22 +0100 Josef Johansson wrote: >> > [snip] We thou

Re: [ceph-users] SSD Hardware recommendation

2015-03-19 Thread Christian Balzer
Hello, On Wed, 18 Mar 2015 11:41:17 +0100 Francois Lafont wrote: > Hi, > > Christian Balzer wrote : > > > Consider what you think your IO load (writes) generated by your > > client(s) will be, multiply that by your replication factor, divide by > > the number of OSDs, that will give you the ba

Re: [ceph-users] SSD Hardware recommendation

2015-03-19 Thread Christian Balzer
On Wed, 18 Mar 2015 08:59:14 +0100 Josef Johansson wrote: > Hi, > > > On 18 Mar 2015, at 05:29, Christian Balzer wrote: > > > > > > Hello, > > > > On Wed, 18 Mar 2015 03:52:22 +0100 Josef Johansson wrote: > [snip] > >> We though of doing a cluster with 3 servers, and any recommendation of > >

Re: [ceph-users] SSD Hardware recommendation

2015-03-18 Thread Francois Lafont
Hi, Christian Balzer wrote : > Consider what you think your IO load (writes) generated by your client(s) > will be, multiply that by your replication factor, divide by the number of > OSDs, that will give you the base load per OSD. > Then multiply by 2 (journal on OSD) per OSD. > Finally based o

Re: [ceph-users] SSD Hardware recommendation

2015-03-18 Thread Alexandre DERUMIER
Johansson" À: "aderumier" Cc: "ceph-users" Envoyé: Mercredi 18 Mars 2015 09:04:23 Objet: Re: [ceph-users] SSD Hardware recommendation Hi Alexandre, I actually have been searching for this information a couple of times in the ML now. Was hoping that you would

Re: [ceph-users] SSD Hardware recommendation

2015-03-18 Thread Josef Johansson
gt; I'm going to use intel s3610 ssd for my production cluster, can't comment > about samsung drive. > > > I'll try to post benchmark results in coming weeks. > > > - Mail original - > De: "Josef Johansson" > À: "ceph-users" >

Re: [ceph-users] SSD Hardware recommendation

2015-03-18 Thread Josef Johansson
Hi, > On 18 Mar 2015, at 05:29, Christian Balzer wrote: > > > Hello, > > On Wed, 18 Mar 2015 03:52:22 +0100 Josef Johansson wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I’m planning a Ceph SSD cluster, I know that we won’t get the full >> performance from the SSD in this case, but SATA won’t cut it as backend >> s

Re: [ceph-users] SSD Hardware recommendation

2015-03-18 Thread Alexandre DERUMIER
x27;t need too fast/many cores. I'm going to use intel s3610 ssd for my production cluster, can't comment about samsung drive. I'll try to post benchmark results in coming weeks. - Mail original - De: "Josef Johansson" À: "ceph-users" Envoyé: Merc

Re: [ceph-users] SSD Hardware recommendation

2015-03-17 Thread Christian Balzer
Hello, On Wed, 18 Mar 2015 03:52:22 +0100 Josef Johansson wrote: > Hi, > > I’m planning a Ceph SSD cluster, I know that we won’t get the full > performance from the SSD in this case, but SATA won’t cut it as backend > storage and SAS is the same price as SSD now. > Have you actually tested SAT

[ceph-users] SSD Hardware recommendation

2015-03-17 Thread Josef Johansson
Hi, I’m planning a Ceph SSD cluster, I know that we won’t get the full performance from the SSD in this case, but SATA won’t cut it as backend storage and SAS is the same price as SSD now. The backend network will be a 10GbE active/passive, but will be used mainly for MySQL, so we’re aiming fo