Re: [ceph-users] ceph-disk is now deprecated

On 11/30/17 14:04, Fabian Grünbichler wrote: > point is - you should not purposefully attempt to annoy users and/or > downstreams by changing behaviour in the middle of an LTS release cycle, exactly. upgrading the patch level (x.y.z to x.y.z+1) should imho never introduce a behaviour-change,

Re: [ceph-users] ceph-disk is now deprecated

On Thu, Nov 30, 2017 at 07:04:33AM -0500, Alfredo Deza wrote: > On Thu, Nov 30, 2017 at 6:31 AM, Fabian Grünbichler > wrote: > > On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 10:39:31AM -0800, Vasu Kulkarni wrote: > >> On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 9:22 AM, David Turner >

Re: [ceph-users] ceph-disk is now deprecated

On Thu, Nov 30, 2017 at 6:31 AM, Fabian Grünbichler wrote: > On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 10:39:31AM -0800, Vasu Kulkarni wrote: >> On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 9:22 AM, David Turner wrote: >> > Isn't marking something as deprecated meaning that there is

Re: [ceph-users] ceph-disk is now deprecated

On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 10:39:31AM -0800, Vasu Kulkarni wrote: > On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 9:22 AM, David Turner wrote: > > Isn't marking something as deprecated meaning that there is a better option > > that we want you to use and you should switch to it sooner than later? I

Re: [ceph-users] ceph-disk is now deprecated

Le 27/11/2017 à 14:36, Alfredo Deza a écrit : > For the upcoming Luminous release (12.2.2), ceph-disk will be > officially in 'deprecated' mode (bug fixes only). A large banner with > deprecation information has been added, which will try to raise > awareness. > > We are strongly suggesting using

Re: [ceph-users] ceph-disk is now deprecated

On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 9:22 AM, David Turner wrote: > Isn't marking something as deprecated meaning that there is a better option > that we want you to use and you should switch to it sooner than later? I > don't understand how this is ready to be marked as such if

Re: [ceph-users] ceph-disk is now deprecated

Isn't marking something as deprecated meaning that there is a better option that we want you to use and you should switch to it sooner than later? I don't understand how this is ready to be marked as such if ceph-volume can't be switched to for all supported use cases. If ZFS, encryption, FreeBSD,

Re: [ceph-users] ceph-disk is now deprecated

On 28-11-2017 13:32, Alfredo Deza wrote: I understand that this would involve a significant effort to fully port over and drop ceph-disk entirely, and I don't think that dropping ceph-disk in Mimic is set in stone (yet). Alfredo, When I expressed my concers about deprecating ceph-disk, I was

Re: [ceph-users] ceph-disk is now deprecated

On 11/28/2017 12:52 PM, Alfredo Deza wrote: On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 7:38 AM, Joao Eduardo Luis wrote: On 11/28/2017 11:54 AM, Alfredo Deza wrote: On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 3:12 AM, Wido den Hollander wrote: Op 27 november 2017 om 14:36 schreef Alfredo Deza

Re: [ceph-users] ceph-disk is now deprecated

Thanks! I'll start looking into rebuilding my roles once 12.2.2 is out then. On 28 November 2017 at 13:37, Alfredo Deza wrote: > On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 7:22 AM, Andreas Calminder > wrote: >>> For the `simple` sub-command there is no

Re: [ceph-users] ceph-disk is now deprecated

On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 7:38 AM, Joao Eduardo Luis wrote: > On 11/28/2017 11:54 AM, Alfredo Deza wrote: >> >> On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 3:12 AM, Wido den Hollander wrote: >>> >>> Op 27 november 2017 om 14:36 schreef Alfredo Deza :

Re: [ceph-users] ceph-disk is now deprecated

On 11/28/2017 11:54 AM, Alfredo Deza wrote: On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 3:12 AM, Wido den Hollander wrote: Op 27 november 2017 om 14:36 schreef Alfredo Deza : For the upcoming Luminous release (12.2.2), ceph-disk will be officially in 'deprecated' mode (bug

Re: [ceph-users] ceph-disk is now deprecated

On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 7:22 AM, Andreas Calminder wrote: >> For the `simple` sub-command there is no prepare/activate, it is just >> a way of taking over management of an already deployed OSD. For *new* >> OSDs, yes, we are implying that we are going only with

Re: [ceph-users] ceph-disk is now deprecated

On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 3:39 AM, Piotr Dałek wrote: > On 17-11-28 09:12 AM, Wido den Hollander wrote: >> >> >>> Op 27 november 2017 om 14:36 schreef Alfredo Deza : >>> >>> >>> For the upcoming Luminous release (12.2.2), ceph-disk will be >>> officially

Re: [ceph-users] ceph-disk is now deprecated

> Op 28 november 2017 om 12:54 schreef Alfredo Deza : > > > On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 3:12 AM, Wido den Hollander wrote: > > > >> Op 27 november 2017 om 14:36 schreef Alfredo Deza : > >> > >> > >> For the upcoming Luminous release (12.2.2),

Re: [ceph-users] ceph-disk is now deprecated

> For the `simple` sub-command there is no prepare/activate, it is just > a way of taking over management of an already deployed OSD. For *new* > OSDs, yes, we are implying that we are going only with Logical Volumes > for data devices. It is a bit more flexible for Journals, block.db, > and

Re: [ceph-users] ceph-disk is now deprecated

I tend to agree with Wido. May of us still reply on ceph-disk and hope to see it live a little longer. Maged On 2017-11-28 13:54, Alfredo Deza wrote: > On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 3:12 AM, Wido den Hollander wrote: > Op 27 november 2017 om 14:36 schreef Alfredo Deza

Re: [ceph-users] ceph-disk is now deprecated

On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 3:12 AM, Wido den Hollander wrote: > >> Op 27 november 2017 om 14:36 schreef Alfredo Deza : >> >> >> For the upcoming Luminous release (12.2.2), ceph-disk will be >> officially in 'deprecated' mode (bug fixes only). A large banner with >>

Re: [ceph-users] ceph-disk is now deprecated

On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 1:56 AM, Andreas Calminder wrote: > Hello, > Thanks for the heads-up. As someone who's currently maintaining a > Jewel cluster and are in the process of setting up a shiny new > Luminous cluster and writing Ansible roles in the process to make

Re: [ceph-users] ceph-disk is now deprecated

On 17-11-28 09:12 AM, Wido den Hollander wrote: Op 27 november 2017 om 14:36 schreef Alfredo Deza : For the upcoming Luminous release (12.2.2), ceph-disk will be officially in 'deprecated' mode (bug fixes only). A large banner with deprecation information has been added,

Re: [ceph-users] ceph-disk is now deprecated

> Op 27 november 2017 om 14:36 schreef Alfredo Deza : > > > For the upcoming Luminous release (12.2.2), ceph-disk will be > officially in 'deprecated' mode (bug fixes only). A large banner with > deprecation information has been added, which will try to raise > awareness. >

Re: [ceph-users] ceph-disk is now deprecated

Hello, Thanks for the heads-up. As someone who's currently maintaining a Jewel cluster and are in the process of setting up a shiny new Luminous cluster and writing Ansible roles in the process to make setup reproducible. I immediately proceeded to look into ceph-volume and I've some

[ceph-users] ceph-disk is now deprecated

For the upcoming Luminous release (12.2.2), ceph-disk will be officially in 'deprecated' mode (bug fixes only). A large banner with deprecation information has been added, which will try to raise awareness. We are strongly suggesting using ceph-volume for new (and old) OSD deployments. The only