Re: [Cerowrt-devel] wndr3800ch model - .config or something needed please

2014-08-01 Thread Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
Peter Lewis writes: > To start, I'm just looking for a good .config that includes all the > cerowrt base packages. Any other instructions would be a bonus. I > could be on the wrong course here and its really a feeds.conf issue > and I need to add in additional feeds. Clone the cerowrt-3.10 bran

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] [Cerowrt-users] Missing packages in CeroWrt repository

2014-08-01 Thread Dave Taht
I note that the cerowrt-devel list is far more used than cerowrt-users, and you should use that rather than this at this point. Also the #openwrt-devel and #bufferbloat irc channels on irc are good. On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 4:34 AM, Paul Tow wrote: > I installed CeroWrt two days ago and have n

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Ideas on how to simplify and popularize bufferbloat control for consideration.

2014-08-01 Thread Michael Richardson
On symmetric links, particularly PPP ones, one can use the LCP layer to do echo requests to the first layer-3 device. This can be used to measure RTT and through some math, the bandwidth. On assymetric links, my instinct is that if you can measure the downlink speed through another mechanism, th

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Ideas on how to simplify and popularize bufferbloat control for consideration.

2014-08-01 Thread Michael Richardson
Sebastian Moeller wrote: > No idea? How would you test this (any command line to try). The good > thingg with the ping is that often even the DSLAM responds keeping > external sources (i.e. hops further away in the network) of variability > out of the measurement... With variou

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Ideas on how to simplify and popularize bufferbloat control for consideration.

2014-08-01 Thread Michael Richardson
Sebastian Moeller wrote: >> The trouble is that to measure bandwidth, you have to be able to send >> and receive a lot of traffic. > Well that is what you typically do, but you can get away with less > measurement traffic: in an ideal quiescent network sending two packets >

[Cerowrt-devel] EFF's contest at defcon 22: SOHOplessly broken goes looking for attacks against home routers

2014-08-01 Thread Dave Taht
https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2014/07/your-wireless-router-broken-help-us-fix-it-def-con At one level, I'm pleased that the EFF is raising awareness of the security issues home routers have... though I wish they'd pointed to jg's work in this area http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/events/luncheon/2014/

[Cerowrt-devel] how wifi beamforming works

2014-08-01 Thread Dave Taht
http://apenwarr.ca/log/ continues his series on wifi, and introduces a way cool new tool to show how wifi beamforming actually works: http://apenwarr.ca/beamlab/ -- Dave Täht ___ Cerowrt-devel mailing list Cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net https://li

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Ideas on how to simplify and popularize bufferbloat control for consideration.

2014-08-01 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi MIchael, On Aug 1, 2014, at 06:51 , Michael Richardson wrote: > > Sebastian Moeller wrote: >> No idea? How would you test this (any command line to try). The good >> thingg with the ping is that often even the DSLAM responds keeping >> external sources (i.e. hops further away in the ne

[Cerowrt-devel] How is DSL sold and bandwidth managed in the UK?

2014-08-01 Thread Dave Taht
uknof list: There has been a long discussion on the cerowrt-devel list about how/when/ and where to get bufferbloat related fixes into the head ends and CPE, and it's confusing as to who can and what sort of devices controls what, The uk seems to have a vibrant dsl based isp market all getting st

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Ideas on how to simplify and popularize bufferbloat control for consideration.

2014-08-01 Thread Sebastian Moeller
HI Michael, On Aug 1, 2014, at 06:21 , Michael Richardson wrote: > > On symmetric links, particularly PPP ones, one can use the LCP layer to do > echo requests to the first layer-3 device. This can be used to measure RTT > and through some math, the bandwidth. Sure. > > On assymetr

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] wndr3800ch model - .config or something needed please

2014-08-01 Thread Dave Taht
basically after that you need a feeds.conf that points to the ceropackages-3.10 repo, and you need to repeatedly copy env/config-wndr37* .config and keep doing a ./scripts feeds install `cat env/packages.list env/override.list` until your .config matches the one in .config. You may need to manually

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] WNDR3800CH varient doesn't load WNDR3800 firmware

2014-08-01 Thread Dave Taht
I just put test images up for the wndr3800CH up at: http://snapon.lab.bufferbloat.net/~cero2/test-wndr3800ch for squashfs and jffs2. It is otherwise the same as the 3.10.50-1 release. If it works for you two I'll fold the 2 line patch into the build or pester someone at openwrt to get it in there.

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] How is DSL sold and bandwidth managed in the UK?

2014-08-01 Thread Fred Stratton
I shall attempt an answer, probably to a slightly different question to the one you are actually asking. Remember, the UK is a member state of the EU. Cable cost too much to install in the 1980s, partially causing the demise of Nynex. Cable is routed underground here, like most services. All

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] [Cerowrt-users] WNDR3800CH varient doesn't load WNDR3800 firmware

2014-08-01 Thread Peter Lewis
Flashed it and it works fine. Seems like that was one of the easier support adds to a build. openwrt-ar71xx-generic-wndr3800ch-squashfs-factory.img via tftp was the image I tested. I have not done the jffs2 or sysupgrade image. Cheers and if you're ever in central VA, I'll buy you a beer or alt

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] How is DSL sold and bandwidth managed in the UK?

2014-08-01 Thread Fred Stratton
Perhaps I should add that ADSL2plus services are generally not speed-limited, as well as being mostly uncapped. There are exceptions. Free Sky broadband for Sky TV customers is capped at 2GB per month. Primus, a Canadian company reknown for cheap offerings, has a capped option alongside an u

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] WNDR3800CH varient doesn't load WNDR3800 firmware (fixed)

2014-08-01 Thread Sam Chessman
Dave, I am also happy to report success with the squashfs wndr3800ch img from http://snapon.lab.bufferbloat.net/~cero2/test-wndr3800ch/openwrt-ar71xx-generic-wndr3800ch-squashfs-factory.img This feels ready, time to push upstream and get openwrt to pull the change. It's working. I also used tftp