Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Spectre and EBPF JIT

2018-01-05 Thread David Lang
He does a good job of explaining these high provile vulnerabilities. On Fri, 5 Jan 2018, Jonathan Morton wrote: On 5 Jan, 2018, at 5:35 pm, dpr...@deepplum.com wrote: Of course the "press" wants everyone to be superafraid, so if they can say "KVM is affected" that causes the mob to start runn

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Spectre and EBPF JIT

2018-01-05 Thread Jonathan Morton
> On 5 Jan, 2018, at 5:35 pm, dpr...@deepplum.com wrote: > > Of course the "press" wants everyone to be superafraid, so if they can say > "KVM is affected" that causes the mob to start running for the exits! Meanwhile, in XKCD land... https://xkcd.com/1938/ - Jonathan Morton

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Spectre and EBPF JIT

2018-01-05 Thread dpr...@deepplum.com
the exits! Summary: hardware virtualization appears to be a pragmatic form of isolation that works. And thus many cloud providers are fine. -Original Message- From: "Jonathan Morton" Sent: Friday, January 5, 2018 9:07am To: "Dave Taht" Cc: "dpr...@deeppl

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Spectre and EBPF JIT

2018-01-05 Thread Jonathan Morton
> On 5 Jan, 2018, at 6:53 am, Dave Taht wrote: > > It took me a long while to digest that one. The branch predictor > analysis of haswell was easiest to understand (and AMD claims to have > an AI based one), and perhaps scrambling that at random intervals > would help? (this stuff is now way abov

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Spectre and EBPF JIT

2018-01-04 Thread Dave Taht
It took me a long while to digest that one. The branch predictor analysis of haswell was easiest to understand (and AMD claims to have an AI based one), and perhaps scrambling that at random intervals would help? (this stuff is now way above my pay grade) ___

[Cerowrt-devel] Spectre and EBPF JIT

2018-01-04 Thread dpr...@deepplum.com
As I continue to study the Spectre bug, I read the Project Zero post about POC's they developed for Spectre. [ https://googleprojectzero.blogspot.com/2018/01/reading-privileged-memory-with-side.html ]( https://googleprojectzero.blogspot.com/2018/01/reading-privileged-memory-with-side.html )